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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:09 PM Original message |
CNN: FAA: Tower staffing during plane crash violated rules |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. damn! Only two? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I think it's a small airport? |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. As an airline pilot |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I'd say in no cases, one... |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. DING DING DING! BareNakedLiberal, you're our grand prize winner! |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Or just have to take a pee....n/t |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That's what trash cans in the tower are for.n/t |
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54anickel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Ewwwww! For a dump too? YUK!!!!! |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Most of the time they probably sit around not doing much |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. doesn't exactly work that way. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:37 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. We're talking about a very small airport |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. there is always constant chatter that has to have |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. stadium pal |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Ahh, but how can we afford more ATCs when |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Wrong. The controller was not at fault. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Hey Av8ravea what is your opinion...do you think |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. It's hard to say.... |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. Thanks |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 06:42 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. What they could really do to help |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. Well imagine-fucking-that!!! |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. kick 'cause I'm pissed. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. I fly out of an airport with NO controllers |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Same here, I fly from KMKO and H68 neither have towers. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
45. Yup. Pilots screwed up |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
12. So they are saying that shifting responsibility to Indianapolis is better |
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Eugene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
13. AP: NTSB: Lexington Controller Had Back Turned |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I have to say one more time - the controllers are NOT responsible |
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Turley (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 07:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
62. "Administrative duties" |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. Aren't the scab controllers all about ready to retire? |
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Scout1071 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Those "scabs" have been working their ass off for 25 years to keep |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. truth is that if they hadn't taken those jobs |
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Scout1071 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. It is true that the facilities are outdated. |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. I've never minded money and percs |
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N90ATC (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. WTF? |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Actually, most of the PATCO controllers were re-hired |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. I do know what I'm talking about |
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N90ATC (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. You Have NO Idea What You're Talking About |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. *loud applause* |
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N90ATC (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Thanks! |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Well I agree with that |
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N90ATC (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Agreed but... |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I will call them. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
17. Thank you, Ronald Reagan |
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maseman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Some posts above |
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sleipnir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 03:20 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. My thoughts also |
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maseman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:34 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. You're correct |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. There was a cell of thunderstorms heading right at the runway |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
54. I saw a show about that one. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Um, you have the runways reversed. 22 is the long one |
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maseman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 07:17 AM Response to Reply #30 |
61. You are correct |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. I agree this shouldn't have happened. However, |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. oops...replied to wrong posting |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. I was wondering what the ramifications would be |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 06:53 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. a multiengine jet on a high speed abort off the end of the runway |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. thanks. I thought that |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. That's pretty much it... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. I haven't gone into LEX for years but I -think- I recall that |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:04 AM Response to Original message |
25. Well if repug congressmen, the crazy king george |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
33. It's obvious that the FAA is incompetent. We'll just have to privatize atc |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
44. Treating Air Traffic Control like McDonalds |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
49. Wrong runway wasn't Comair crew's only preflight error |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. I don't consider the "wrong plane" part significant, really... |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I figured that too - thought the more interesting part was the |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 06:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
60. The wrong ariplane isn't that unusual at all |
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dennis00 (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #52 |
63. lack of lights |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
55. Air Traffic Controller only had 2 hours sleep. |
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