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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:20 PM
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Gov. Bush declares state of emergency
TALLAHASSEE: Florida Governor Jeb Bush declared a state of emergency on Sunday because of the possibility that Ernesto could threaten Florida.

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=8592&z=3&p=
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:21 PM
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1. Big brother to send more money
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:22 PM
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2. As a Florida resident on the coast
I don't have a problem with that.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:23 PM
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3. Seconded. Let's hope the money goes to where it is needed.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:40 PM
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13. Not arguing the idea of expectation, but I suspect tht Florida
will end up with much better care than NOLA has found.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:43 PM
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14. And for good reason.
Please don't make me defend Jeb Bush here over another Governor, because I will.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:31 PM
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19. Agreed.
I live in Indiana, and even from here it's clear that Jeb Bush and Florida can handle pretty much everything a hurricane can offer with minimal help from FEMA. That clearly was not the case for Louisiana, even if we ignore the unusual devastation in New Orleans.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:03 PM
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16. As expected. And the rest of the country would feel the same
about their area.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 07:43 PM
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21. How do you feel about all of the money that went to
people who didn't have property in the path of the hurricane? Was that OK?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 08:39 PM
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23. Your not going to make me feel guilty for my comment.
I still stand by my original post.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 09:33 PM
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25. Who said anything about guilt?
Are you saying that you are one of the people who put in a fake claim? I certainly didn't think anyone on this board would do something like that.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 10:40 AM
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40. What a passive aggressive!
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:24 PM
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42. Is there a reason that you refuse to anwer my question?
I have asked you a question, and you never answer the question, just make demeaning comments.

I have always thought that the posters at DU were above that kind of thing.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 11:11 PM
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28. ???
Edited on Sun Aug-27-06 11:11 PM by brentspeak
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:41 AM
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33. One of many stories:
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:18 PM
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41. Translation = more free money for brother Jeb
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:24 PM
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4. Ernesto is now just a tropical storm...
Plus it has to run across Cuba the long way.

IMHO this is not a major storm.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:30 PM
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9. As I said in another thread
Edited on Sun Aug-27-06 05:34 PM by William769
Charley was not a major storm (Weak category one when it left Cuba), it slammed into us as a category 4! Please forgive me If I don't share your optimism.

On EDIT: Corrected thought.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:08 PM
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17. Charlie did not have to go lenght wise on Cuba
Edited on Sun Aug-27-06 06:10 PM by wakeme2008
Plus once it passes over Cuba part of it will be over land. IF it turned left out of Cuba and went over the Gulf then IMHO it could get big.





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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 10:30 PM
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27. not much time from Cuba to Florida, we will see what happens.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:25 PM
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5. Good
This is what Governor's are supposed to do, when there is an emergency, unlike certain siblings who in other governmental offices attend political events.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:27 PM
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7. Hear, hear.
Edited on Sun Aug-27-06 05:39 PM by bertha katzenengel
Although it's been downgraded, Ernesto can still pose a threat. This declaration shouldn't be used as an opportunity to bash Bushes or the GOP, nor even as a vehicle for cynicism ("oh, yeah, since Katrina, NOW they act . . ."). Jeb Bush did the right thing.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:28 PM
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8. Agreed
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:32 PM
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10. agreed!
I don't like Jeb Bush, but I will admit that he has done a good job when it has come to Hurricanes.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 08:34 PM
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22. i wonder what the hundreds (if not thousands) of homeowners whose roofs
are still damaged because insurances have been slow in paying up, or because materials have not been available have to say about that...wouldn't jeb bush as governor have some oversight into insurances and into the flow of repair materials into the state and affected counties? I for one think that Jeb Bush is as much of an asshole as his brother and the rest of their family.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 08:42 PM
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24. Get a decent Insurance company.
That was a no brainer. I was in one of the hardest hit area's of Charley. My roof was replaced in a reasonable time, till it was replaced I was put up into a Hotel by my Insurance company.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:28 AM
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32. you are evidently in an out of the ball park income bracket, able to
afford decent insurance. not so in the case of so many blue tarp roofs throughout florida, this county. you are certainly under the jeb bush umbrealla protection. not so so many others whose insurances decided to cancel them after the storm hit. we are living in a two tiered society. those who have and those who have not. the bushes have certainly helped to make the burrowing lines deeper.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 12:29 PM
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35. Thank you
I can't think of anything to say that wouldn't get deleted. I'd just like to shake people some days, not that it'd do any good.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 01:40 PM
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37. It's called good management.
Please feel free to shake me any time. :)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 01:38 PM
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36. I am on Social Security Disability.
I manage.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 07:04 PM
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38. good for you.
i have a friend on disability as well. her disability is her only income. it hardly takes care of her needs: medical care, medications, food on her table, clothing, bandages for open wound care ...
cuts to the medicaid that covers her, rent, utilities...food stamps? i don't even know if she is eligible.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:44 AM
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34. My daughter lives in Hollywood, FL and she told me that there are many
homes with blue tarps still on their roofs. It's not because of insurance, but they can't get the labor. All the roofing companies are overloaded.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:25 PM
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6. His whole governorship has been a state of emergency
but alas, there is a light at the end of the tunnel: only 4 1/2 more months to go.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:34 PM
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11. So why were we in a state of emergency on Sept 7, 2001?
Never did hear why. Psysic governor I guess.
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Ragin_mad Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:48 PM
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15. The State of Emergency was only as a training tool.
Section 1.

Based upon the foregoing, I hereby find that the public welfare requires that the Florida National Guard train to support law-enforcement personnel and emergency-management personnel in the event of civil disturbances or natural disasters and to provide training support to law-enforcement personnel and community-based organizations relating to counter drug operations.

Section 2.

I hereby delegate to The Adjutant General of the State of Florida all necessary authority, within approved budgetary appropriations or grants, to order members of the Florida National Guard into active service, as defined by Section 250.27, Florida Statutes, for the purpose of training to support law-enforcement personnel and emergency-management personnel in the event of civil disturbances or natural disasters and to provide training support to law-enforcement personnel and community-based organizations relating to counter drug operations.

Section 3.

The Florida National Guard may order selected members on to state active duty for service to the State of Florida pursuant to Section 250.06(4), Florida Statutes, to assist FDLE in performing port security training and inspections. Based on the potential massive damage to life and property that may result from an act of terrorism at a Florida port, the necessity to protect life and property from such acts of terrorism, and inhibiting the smuggling of illegal drugs into the State of Florida, the use of the Florida National Guard to support FDLE in accomplishing port security training and inspections is "extraordinary support to law enforcement" as used in Section 250.06(4), Florida Statutes.

Section 4.

The Adjutant General shall not place members of the Florida National Guard into active service for longer than necessary to accomplish the purposes declared herein.

Section 5.

This Executive Order supersedes Executive Order Number 01-17. Executive Order Number 01-17 is hereby revoked.

Section 6.

This Executive Order shall remain in full force and effect until the earlier of its revocation or June 30, 2003.

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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 12:09 AM
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29. Training tool for what? Acts of terrorism? on 09/07/01?
What foresight.

Executive order 01-17 was already in effect and scheduled to remain in force until June 30, 2003.
http://sun6.dms.state.fl.us/eog_new/eog/orders/2001/january/eo2001-17-01-19-01.html

For some unknown reason, John Ellis Bushbush revoked the standing order on September 7th, 2001 and replaced it with Executive Order 01-261.
http://www.state.fl.us/eog_new/eog/orders/2001/september/eo2001-261-09-07-01.html

Note to OP: apologies for going off-topic.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:38 PM
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12. Jeb's Been OK On Hurricanes
I used to think he was kind of stupid, like calling them "scary" rather than reassuring people, but knowing how most of us are unprepared, perhaps this is ONE instance where a little fear is OK.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 06:16 PM
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18. EMERGENCY: Time for Commander AWOL to extend his vacation
Edited on Sun Aug-27-06 06:17 PM by SpiralHawk
as usual.

American can always depend on George AWOL Bush to flake out and fail when trouble is brewing for the nation. At least he is consistent.

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 07:38 PM
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20. i guess if a bush declares a state of emergency it means something?
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 10:04 PM
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26. Not really.
There wasn't any help last year, or the year before. The comments made earlier in the thread just churn my stomache because I know that Jeb Bush doesn't give a shit about this state and he damn sure hasn't helped anything.
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SoyCat Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 01:02 AM
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30. Thank you. I know far too many people who have houses that are still a
mess after Ivan and Dennis. These are people who should have qualified for FEMA aid and got nothing. Help after hurricanes is largely hit or miss. Some people get lucky; other people just get forgotten.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 08:54 PM
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39. Exactly! It was churning mine,
too.
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 01:47 AM
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31. He should call Katherine Harris...
Have her stand on a beach, take off her shirt and flash the hurricane. It'll shrink down to nothing in seconds.
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