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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:40 PM
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Christian Coalition losing chapters
Three disgruntled state affiliates have severed ties with the Christian Coalition of America, one of the nation's most powerful conservative groups during the 1990s but now buffeted by complaints over finances, leadership and its plans to veer into nontraditional policy areas.

"It's a very sad day for our people, but a liberating day," said John Giles, president of the coalition's Alabama chapter, which announced Wednesday that it was renaming itself and splitting from the national organization. The Iowa and Ohio chapters took similar steps this year.

Giles said he and his Alabama colleagues have "a dozen hard reasons" for the action but would elaborate on only one — a perception that the coalition's leadership was diverting itself from traditional concerns such as abortion and same-sex marriage to address other issues ranging from the environment to Internet access.

Giles predicted further defections and said the coalition was now left with only a half-dozen strong state chapters and a weak presence in Washington.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060823/ap_on_el_ge/christian_coalition
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:48 PM
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1. Should be correctly named Christian Fascism Coalition of Amerika
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:54 PM
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4. AMEN!
AS a Christain myself, I can not tell
you how much the CC offends me.
AS in, I wish they would all move to an island
and kill each other off.
Anything to stop their twisting and
hateful use of the scriptures.
THEY are NOT Christians.
They are hate mongering egotists and
they need to go far, far away.
BHN
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:59 PM
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8. Followers of Paul
usually make my skin crawl.

I hear ya.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 06:13 PM
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11. My sister in law is a bushbot cretin x-tian.
They are intensely frightening in their dogmatic
belief that GW is a "man o' GAWD."

I have challenged her many times to
meet the false spirit discernment check list
provided in 1 John 4, where her false idol (Bush) is concerned.

She has no idea what that chapter says
and will not even follow up on finding out.

Bushbot x-tians are some of the scariest people
among us, and I, for one, have no
problem with shipping them off to deserted area
with large fences surrounding them.
I assure you, they would eliminate one another
within a year.

BHN

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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:53 PM
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2. What has Ms. Combs said about the environment?
That it should be razed in the battle against Satan, or that it should be conserved?
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:53 PM
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3. Its the money
I presume the Christian Coalition was instructed to take the standard right wing positions on these issues. Every head on the republican Hydra is programmed to spout the same venom.
I still consider them hostiles, but more worthy of respect than their former national masters.
Once they learn that they're free to practices all the medieval social taboos they want on themselves, perhaps they'll back off the rest of us.
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grilled onions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:54 PM
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5. Yes I could see their delima..
We sure can't worry about unimportant stuff like the enviroment. Issues like that could ruin the entire world. :sarcasm:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:56 PM
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6. Fascists just can't keep it together, can they?
All these men want their fiefdoms intact, and they can't do that under national leadership.

Plus, I predicted over a year ago that the appearance of "Christian porn" on the net was a clear sign the whole right wing Christian fad was due to go under. Once people start to cheat, the whole movement is done for.

It's like those "low carb chocolate chip cookies" I saw two years ago. I knew that craze was over then. Now it all seems rather quaint.

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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 06:08 PM
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10. um.... "Christian porn"??
:wtf: is that??

do I even want to know?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 07:03 PM
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16. Dubya With a Halo IS Porm, For Sure! n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:24 PM
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20. There was an article about it in the local right wing fishwrap
or *I* wouldn't know about it, either. Apparently, their angle is that all the sexually explicit stuff is done by good Christian married couples to HELP other good Christian married couples.

I mean a good Christian single man would NEVER go there to play with his willie, would he?

Like I said, when they start to cheat, it's over.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:59 PM
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7. There not just losing chapters but their whole book is in tatters
glad to hear it.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 05:59 PM
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9. That is great.
Guess christians are remembering what it was supposed to be about after all - that "what so ever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me" - sermon on the mount thing.

That one rule you REALLY better not cross.

I'll tell you - Faithful America is doing really well right now - you know, the liberal christian (and multi denominalizion) group.

It is just like in college way back when - that comparative religon class was pretty right-on after all.

Good to know - thanks for the post.

Joe
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 06:33 PM
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12. Christian Money-Grubbing Coalition is
Edited on Wed Aug-23-06 06:34 PM by Anakin Skywalker
more like it! The local chapter here in my state as well as some other rightwingnut groups with "Christian" and "values" "family values" blah blah in their names all were urging their members to support bills that have NOTHING to do with moral values and religion. These bills are about tax-cuts for Big Business. These xtians are in favor of cutting taxes for Big Business while raising a sales tax (which affects everyone, including the poor). Everytime these jerks open their mouths, they just further prove to me that their kind is HYPOCRITICAL!

When I first saw the local news article, I was suprised to see supposedly christian groups getting involved in what is very non-religious matter....and SIDING with the money! LOL!
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 06:50 PM
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13. They're so "Christian" they had to create a "Catholic Alliance"
back in their heyday, they realized their fire-and-brimstone fundie gig wasn't making it in the heavily Catholic Northeast and Great Lakes regions. Hence, the mercifully short-lived "Catholic Alliance". You'd think the notion of a "Christian Coalition" would include Catholics, wouldn't you? Then again, it was Marion "Pat" Robertson who once said, "We all have the right to worship in this country: Christians, Catholics and Jews." :scared:
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I_Make_Mistakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 06:55 PM
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14. I heard the best term ever, a C-Span caller from Russia (studying)
there, but originally from South Africa called Bush a Christless Christian (CC), it was so appropriate!

I am a Christful Christian, so, to me it was once again, appropriate!
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MikeyJones Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 06:57 PM
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15. I grew up under such a repressed family......
we listened to the radio station belonging to the American Family Assoication every fucking day and I was constantly bombarded with their fringe propaganda. But let me say this -- we SHOULD worry if these people are moving away from the gay rights/abortion issue. At least then we knew where they stood. I'm starting to think that neo-conservative operatives have infiltrated the ranks of the CC and are now attempting to turn it away from the Pat Robertson/Falwell origin point where it came from and away from the "family values" theme and then attempt to turn it into another cheerleading organization and right-wing operative organization for the push to continue to legitimize the mess in Iraq.

Neo-cons care about 2 things: the salvation and protection of Isreal and the destruction of all of Israel's enemies in the Middle East beginning with Saddam(as they've already sadly accomplished) and also next the destruction of the Iranian and Syrian regimes and the replacement with some kind of quasi-fascist corporate wet dream where all the native people die and the corporations rape them in an Imperialist bonanza buffet of exploitation until there's no more oil or other natural resources and then the corporations will toss them aside on the trash heap like every other nation they've taken over and exploited.

We have to fight these evil neocon bastards with all our might or they will be in office another 4 years after Junior leaves office in 08'.

And remember, Junior isn't even the president. Darth Cheney is. And think about 4 or even 8 more years of that Nazi stealing our rights and allowing him to continue to stylize this country we love into his personal corporate bunker.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 07:44 PM
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17. These offshoots think that the environment should be raped. (nt)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 07:50 PM
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18. Environment & net neutrality, hmm?.
Lets get in there & scoop those puppies up!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:40 PM
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21. Christian Coalition losing chapters....
Edited on Wed Aug-23-06 10:17 PM by marmar
:cry: :cry:

Christian Coalition losing chapters By DAVID CRARY, AP National Writer
15 minutes ago



Three disgruntled state affiliates have severed ties with the Christian Coalition of America, one of the nation's most powerful conservative groups during the 1990s but now buffeted by complaints over finances, leadership and its plans to veer into nontraditional policy areas.

"It's a very sad day for our people, but a liberating day," said John Giles, president of the coalition's Alabama chapter, which announced Wednesday that it was renaming itself and splitting from the national organization. The Iowa and Ohio chapters took similar steps this year.

Giles said he and his Alabama colleagues have "a dozen hard reasons" for the action but would elaborate on only one — a perception that the coalition's leadership was diverting itself from traditional concerns such as abortion and same-sex marriage to address other issues ranging from the environment to Internet access.

Giles predicted further defections and said the coalition was now left with only a half-dozen strong state chapters and a weak presence in Washington.

"In our prime, we were rated the seventh-most powerful lobbying organization in the country," he said. "Now, there's not even any blip on the radar screen."

At its peak, the coalition had a presence in every state, but in some cases a modest one.

The complete article is: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060824/ap_on_el_ge/christian_coalition


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:40 PM
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22. Well, good. I certainly wouldn't mind if they all dissolved.
Edited on Wed Aug-23-06 10:13 PM by Old Crusoe
I don't mean organizationally.

I mean biochemically.

Like any rotten produce, etc.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:40 PM
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23. LOL...Bon soir, Old Crusoe.
All you probably have to do to dissolve them biochemically is sprinkle water on them.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:40 PM
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25. Yeah, water might work. How about urine? That would be my first choice.
Hiya, marmar.

You hang in there, good person. We're gonna kick us some red butt come November.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:40 PM
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24. I'm sure it has nothing whatsoever to do with the PERVERTS
that have been outed lately. Funny how they fail to mention that. :mad:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:41 PM
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26. Bye bye fundy fruitcakes! See 'ya!
:hi:
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:41 PM
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27. A great way to polish Ralph Reed's old stomping ground
would be to catch him in some sort of compromising situation.
Say, a video tape of him and multiple hookers or finding he has loads of various types
of hard porn. Just enough to send his CC followers running for cover. Nothing too extreme.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:41 PM
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28. So preferably gay porn?
His fellow CCers would spontaneously combust. :nuke:
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-23-06 10:41 PM
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29. JUST RIGHT! Perfect! n/t
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-24-06 02:30 AM
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30. Ha ha! I saw this posted anonymously, elsewhere:
"Not quite as popular without a Democratic President overseeing a booming peacetime economy to hate, eh?"
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