Conservatives try to curtail hotel porn

[deadparrot]

NEW YORK - Pornographic movies now seem nearly as pervasive in America's hotel rooms as tiny shampoo bottles, and the lodging industry shows little concern as conservative activists rev up a protest campaign aimed at triggering a federal crackdown.

A coalition of 13 conservative groups — including the Family Research Council and Concerned Women for America — took out full-page ads in some editions of USA Today earlier this month urging the Justice Department and FBI to investigate whether some of the pay-per-view movies widely available in hotels violate federal and state obscenity laws.

The coalition also is trying to draw attention to CleanHotels.com, a directory of hotels and motels nationwide that pledge to exclude adult offerings from their in-room entertainment service.

Though porn is now cheaply and readily accessible on the Internet, and through many other outlets, the activists chose to target the hotel industry in part because of the well-known brands of corporations that cater to family vacationers as well as business travelers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060822/ap_on_re_us/hotel_porn

[Skink]

1. Is nothing sacred?

[PittPoliSci]

38. good point.

i agree.

[jayctravis]

76. Seriously, is there actual "porn" in hotel rooms...

or is it the softcore boobie movies like on Cinemax?

There is a difference. I can understand not wanting actual porn.

I have been in hotels that offer the Playboy channel, and I remember once seeing that they do have a friday night "feature" sort of thing with actual porn showing insertion, but usually Playboy is pretty tame boobies and lingerie sort of stuff.

Is this what they're talking about?

[Deja Q]

2. I thought the conservatives said government should stay out of business?

Oops, me wrong. Big government is good. :crazy:

[maseman]

3. Marriott

Marriott charges about $10.99 to $14.99 for their movies (including porn.) Just imagine the kind of revenue that they generate nationally from that? Porn movies probably represents at least half to two-thirds of all the movie rentals. Don't tell me the Joe average business traveling stiff is paying $14.99 for Cars or The Devil Wears Prada.

[plcdude]

7. stiff

perhaps a slip of the tongue my bad my bad

[Paula Sims]

17. They just want to keep it for themselves. . .

for "research" purposes.

I also think it's funny about Marriott since JW Marriott was a devout practicing Mormon!


Paula

[Scairp]

61. The Mormon Motel shows porn?!

I guess the income from them is just too tempting, even for these holier-than-thou hypocrites.

[katty]

63. yea, right...and this is such an important issue as the 'world burns'

[butterfly77]

4. Why? they and their so called religious right ...

use it more than anyone else.

[zreosumgame]

5. Hey thanks FRC!

I love the list of lame-ass motels I will never stay at! After all if they meet YOUR approval they really must suck ass :)

[leesa]

6. Blowing up kids in Iraq and Afghanistan, no problemo. Porn movies

in the privacy of a hotel room...major problem. I'm sure Jesus would agree.

[cboy4]

9. well said n/t

[cboy4]

8. dupe, fyi - - -

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1961814

[xchrom]

10. conservative christians are thinking about your naughty bits --

and what you're doing with your naughty bits -- right this very minute -- they're thinking about it.

[mike_c]

22. LOL-- that's the funniest image I've read all day!

:rofl:

[Kailassa]

11. They want to ban sex altogether,

and make everyone so frustrated they go crazy and mutate into
more fundie hypocrits.

Besides, the more things you make illegal, the more people
commit crimes, and thus can be blackmailed.

[sofa king]

12. Heh. Fight the good fight, you prims!

I want to see them soak lots and lots of time and money into this pressing issue of national concern.

Since the front desk likes to charge a dollar for a phone call and fifteen bucks for an hour of Nintendo, I can only imagine what they rake in on the porno films (and I'll bet it's soft-core, too).

Yeah, the hotels will walk away from all that cash just as quickly as they'll start paying someone to keep the rooms stocked with Bibles.

Even better, these people have identified themselves as a demographic which is less profitable to the hotels because they pretend they won't want to watch porno--and they're probably the same jerks who dispute the charges at checkout because their porno was spooled up "by accident."

It's a win-win for the hotels. They get free advertising, and they also get respite from cheap hypocrites. What's not to like?

[Sherman A1]

51. Agreed

I hope they keep up the "Good Fight", it will keep some of the fundies entertained for awhile and come out to be absolutely nothing........There are just too, too many folks out there that desperately want to live our lives for us.

[donco6]

13. As someone who has - ahem - watched it occasionally . . .

Good god . . . get a life! The stuff is so tame, even if a kid DID happen to "accidentally" see it, he still wouldn't know anything about the birds and the bees.

If parents would just be responsible and block the channel (which is easy to do - just follow the directions on the card in the room), this wouldn't even be an issue.

[TheMightyFavog]

14. I think I remember reading somewhere

That whenever the Southern Baptists have their big conventions, Hotel Porn rentals go through the roof.

[NashVegas]

16. Coke and Hookers

Are prime economic movers when it's convention time.

[AnneD]

27. Why ....

am I not suprised.:eyes:
They are forever worried than someone is getting something that they can't get. I have yet to be in the sack with a RW GOP that knew how to properly use their equipment (outside of the basics). BORING.

[Demobrat]

15. Last time I stayed at a hotel

they locked me in the room, forced me to turn on the TV, had porn on every channel and wouldn't let me turn it off. And then they charged me for it! Really sucked. Literally.

[zbdent]

18. Here's the kicker, as discussed on the Ed Schultz show with guest host

Jay Marvin ...

Newscorp owns many of the "media" groups which produce the porn - and donates heavily to Repuke candidates ... Newscorp is FAUX ...

Hotel industry also donates heavily Repuke ...

So, will the "social conservatives" put their money where their mouths are, so to speak, and go against the candidates who lap up the cash from these companies putting out the porn? Nahhhhhh ...

[maxrandb]

55. Here's an even bigger kicker

Apparently, one of the leaders of one of these 13 "conservative" groups became active in this because he was "once addicted to porn"!

There is absolutely nothing worse - there is no one more obsessive - there is no one more retractable than an ex-addict.

Perhaps the worst are ex-smokers. The "ex" anythings seem to think that everyone is as weak as they are, the "addiction" caused them harm, and they will go crazy trying to stop other people.

Problem is that most, whether addicted to porn, nicotine, alcohol, or whatever else they claim has ruined their lives...are just a hotel stay, a convenience store, or a keg away from "jerking their peckers raw".

As our pretzledent so greatly demonstrates..."Once and addict, always an addict".

[BushOut06]

19. I have no problem with CleanHotels.com

If they want hotels that don't offer adult movies, go for it. They have that right. But do they have to go the extra step and try to deny the rest of us?

[krispos42]

50. You can turn off the porn option in your room, right?

Or have the front desk disable it from the lobby for your. So.... what's the problem? If you're worried about your teenager sneaking some porn (which, incidently, shows up on the billing) while you're at the beach or someting, call the front desk and have them turn it off.

It's called parenting, dammit. Stop spending so much time manages other people's lives and start managing your own.

[BushOut06]

70. Who said there was a problem?

It's called free choice. And if a bunch of fundies want to have hotels that cater to them, isn't that their choice also? I do have a problem with them pressuring other hotels, but if they want to put together a directory of "Christian-friendly" hotels, who are we to say no?

[krispos42]

71. It's a manufactured problem so that culture nazis can beat their chests

To stay in the spotlight and gain political advantage, you have to have a problem to scream about.

I certainly don't think it's a problem. A significant portion of my hard drive space contains such items as to cause the chest-beaters to fly into a frothing rage!

If a fundie family feels so much threat from porn that they want to lock it out of THEIR room during the nights that THEY stay there, then just fine and dandy. But give me access to mine porn!

[Joanne98]

20. Watch out Paris Hilton.

[Zomby Woof]

21. Knowing conservatives...

They hate porn in hotels because it competes with their real-time sexual exploitation of children, prostitutes, and family members. Their repression releases itself in the most unhealthy ways the louder and louder they scream about porn.

[VegasWolf]

23. Just in time for 2006 elections. No porn in hotels. How stupid. nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

24. Yep, these disciples want "Non Stroking" rooms.

Better cancel Republican conventions while they're at it.

[kurth]

25. What are they gonna do in their downtime with hookers?

Besides, the porn actresses say GODDDDD a lot...

[kskiska]

26. They'll try to ban Magic Fingers next.

Too titillating for them.

[Wise Doubter]

28. Maybe some of them are afraid they`ll be spotted in one.....

Or CC bills will be exposed.

[Earth_First]

29. IIRC...

I remember hearing on an AAR program, it perhaps was Al's program, that 80% of pornography that is purchased in hotels is purchased by GOP business travelers. Let me see if I can reaffirm this...

[BadGimp]

30. DON'T TAKE MY PORN!!!!!!

I can suffer through taking a 5 hour flight without lotion or water. But NO PORN IN MY HOTEL ROOM????????????????

ARE YOU F&^%ING KIDDING ME?????

...sorry, I get a little worked up when someone comes between me and my porn.


On a postiive note, it's good to know that there are some real important issues the right wing kirspy Christo facists can sink their teeth into.

wtf man!

[Jacobin]

31. A funny tidbit of porno trivia:

Anyone know the city with the highest rate of porn motel rentals?


Salt Lake City.

[mike_c]

33. oh that is good....

:rofl:

[BadGimp]

35. San Diego or Salt Lake?

[Jacobin]

53. Salt Lake City

That's what I read a year or so ago anyway.

Thought it was pretty funny

[PaDem]

32. This is too rich...........

It's Bush's wealthy base, the haves and have more's, that are making sick money off of porn in the hotels and in other places.

[williesgirl]

34. If it's pay-per-view, why do they care?????????????? Just say no!

[PointAndLaugh]

36. "hotel porn" ?

This is an issue all of a sudden?

[cyr330]

37. Do they never stop?

Can they ever just mind their own fucking business?

What's really nauseating is that they are so hypocritical about porn; I would bet big $$ that most of them are obsessed with sex & porn (think about that reptile, Jimmy Swaggart). I'm certainly not saying that sex & porn are bad; I'm just saying that the people who are bitching about it the loudest are more than likely beating off while looking at it every night. . . .

[RCinBrooklyn]

39. They want the nation to be Disneyland. n/t

[Zorro]

40. I'd like to curtail Gideon's Bibles

They're pervasive, and violate the principle of separation of religion and hotel rooms.

[OregonDem]

45. No they should keep them, you could run out of toilet paper.

I hope some christo fascist freeper read this and it pissed them off.

[PurityOfEssence]

41. I can't give you a definition of porn, but I know it when I see it...

...again and again and again.

Puritans are disgusting. Those who hate sex and would ban any depictions of it have deep, deep problems.

[louis-t]

62. My theory is that conservatives are disgusted with their own bodies.

And are full of self-hatred.

[barb162]

42. Has anyone ever noticed that in the US one would have

to pay for the porn but in Europe it blares in your face on several channels free. Why I am thinking of that now....

[rooboy]

43. Murdoch and Marriott will make the phone call and then this will stop. n/t

[OregonDem]

44. How many conservatives have been caught with child porn?

I've lost count.
Why is it that because they don't get any sex that they have to keep others from having it or looking at people who do it? Don't they have any bigger problems in their life?

[niallmac]

46. Conservatives want to ban Fox News?

I don't like Fox Porn either but then I just don't watch it. Easy peasy.

[jaysunb]

47. I really wish these people would

sit down, and STFU ! :evilfrown:

[aaronbees]

48. Hotels without porn is like....

apple pie without ice cream. Do these freaks hate Amerikka?

[colorado_ufo]

75. They hate us for our freedoms . . .

[w4rma]

49. There is WAAAY too much money in this. They have zero chance of success.nt

[true_notes]

52. Have Any of these Push Buttoned Morons

Been to Europe, where porn is played freely on state television after 10 PM? It's not hurting them.

America has too much stuck up their asses to realize the big things (war, industrialism, et) is what's ruining our nation, not a little pole in hole action.

[stepnw1f]

54. These People Need to Be Treated Like Infants

So I announce a bib and pacifier for every Conservative up-in-arms about porn.

Message to Conservatives: Stay in your bubble and mind your own business!

[LeftHander]

56. How about curtailing the ultimate obcenity....WAR!

asshats...

[CollegeDUer]

57. I'm no fan of pornography but come on

Is this personal morality police going to spend how much time and money on something so trivial.

[noonwitch]

58. I think having a resource where parents can check before booking is good

I don't think the government should be telling hotels how to do business, though.

Man, all the hooker motels in Detroit would be out of business. Their ads in the phone book always specifically mention "adult movies". I'm not sure their bankruptcy would be a bad thing, however.

[stubtoe]

59. Attack of the Cultural Correctness crowd!

:crazy:

[Dissenting_Prole]

60. NEWSFLASH: Christians are addicted to porn

"Porn Again" Christianity

In another stunning display of heretical hypocrisy, a recent poll taken by the self-proclaimed "World's most Christian website", Christianet.com, found that a majority of Christian men, 50%, are addicted to pornography! Additionally, the poll also reported that 20% of Christian women are addicted to sneaking a peek at others "doing it". Refreshing the reader's memory, these "porn again" Christians belong to the same group of revisionists that fervently lined up and espoused former Attorney General, John Ashcroft's "Crusade against Porn" and stridently called for former President, Bill Clinton's impeachment for a minor infidelity while residing in the White House

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_frank_j__060817__22porn_again_22_christi.htm

[katty]

64. Conservatives: Start cutting back on YOUR PORN HABITS

[KansDem]

65. Maybe they should start with penis pumps in the courtroom first

conservative courtrooms, no less...

[Anakin Skywalker]

66. WTF? They are called PAY-PER-VIEW!

It's not like little Johnny can see these just by flipping around! Damn these HYPOCRITES who I guarantee have stacks of Playboys and probably other much worse stuffs hidden in their closets.

[JoFerret]

67. Conservatives NEED porn

poor things.
The rest of us can find the balance between freedom and obscenity.

[pinniped]

68. These Brady Bunch freaks are probably the biggest purveyors of....

smut out there.

I bet that Stephen Baldwin assclown is behind this.

[Anakin Skywalker]

69. As a Member of DeGeneration X

(or is that DeGeneration XXX? Heh heh), I got two words for you rightwingnuts: SUCK IT!

[onager]

72. Google the famous Provo, UT case a few years ago...

As I remember...

On a slow day in Provo, the City Attorney decided to make some headlines by busting a local video shop. This was a neighborhood shop which mainly dealt in your standard video rentals. But it had a small porn section, completely hidden and not accessible to minors, etc.

At trial, the defense attorney produced two interesting sets of records: the number of Gawd-fearing Provokians who had rented porn from the store, and the number of pay-per-view porn rentals from every hotel in Provo.

It took the jury about 15 minutes to come back with a unanimous verdict of "Not Guilty."

:rofl:

[Zorra]

73. Survey: Churchgoing Women also Struggle with Porn Addiction

snip==
According to a poll by ChristiaNet.com and Second Glance Ministries, half of all Christian men are addicted to pornography. While the statistics for men are nothing new, the poll found 20 percent of all Christian women to be addicts to pornography.

Additional findings showed 60 percent of the women respondents admitted to having significant struggles with lust, 40 percent admitted to being involved in sexual sin in the past year, and 20 percent of the church-going female participants struggled with looking at pornography on an ongoing basis.

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20060810/23609.htm

Guilt fostered by twisted interpretations of religion and subsequent repression of natural, healthy sexual inclinations turns conservatives into closet pervert freaks.

This is why an inordinately large number of conservatives end up as pedophiles and rapists.

This drive to eliminate porn from motels is just another ineffective way for conservatives to try to ease their own consciences from the extreme guilt caused by the sick twisted sexual perversions that live there.

[Vinca]

74. Okay. Then I want the damn Gideon Bibles gone.

These people really need to go off in search of a life. It's not as if the hotel automatically plays porn on the television. First, you've got to turn on the television. Then you have to select the porn movie. Then you have to pay for the porn movie. I guess they could be feeding the hungry or housing the homeless, but what the hell. Investigating pornography in hotel rooms must be a whole lot more fun.