Anglers attacked by animal rights extremists

[T_i_B]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/19/nfish19.xml

A gang of masked animal rights activists has attacked a group of anglers, prompting fears that extremists are determined to widen the scope of their campaign of intimidation.

A handful of people, some of them families, was enjoying a day out at the Bank House fly fishery, at Caton, near Lancaster, when the saboteurs arrived. Lucy Belson, of Kirkby Lonsdale, Cumbria, was fishing with a friend when they suddenly found themselves at the mercy of the gang. "They began throwing stones at my rod and one of them said, 'It's the easy way or the hard way. You've been sabbed.' They told me to pack up and go or I was 'going to get wet'."

Fighting broke out as two anglers on a nearby stretch of bank struggled with the protesters. Miss Belson, a resuscitation nurse at Westmorland General Hospital, in Kendal, said: "I decided to get out of there and go home but suddenly they all ran towards me waving bats and blocks of wood, shouting, 'Get her'. "I was jostled and they smashed my fishing rod."

Pc Duncan Thomas, the force's wildlife officer, said that saboteurs were increasingly attacking anglers. "Both anglers and grouse shooting parties should be aware of the threat to them and they should have contingencies in place to protect themselves."

[saigon68]

1. Too bad they outlawed 9mm semi-auto pistols and the right to carry.

This behavior would be the ultimate revenge of Darwin in my area.

http://www.rice-lake-hunters-memorial.com/

November 21, 2004

On the 2nd day of the 2004 Wisconsin deer hunting season, 8 hunters, all family or friends, from the Rice Lake, Wisconsin area were gunned down by one man named Chai Soua Vang just north of town near Birchwood. Vang became upset when asked to leave the private property after he was spotted sitting in one of the other hunter's deer stands. Vang then took his rifle and shot 8 hunters killing 6 of them. Four of the six were shot in the back as they tried to flee and some were shot more than once. Only one of the hunters was armed at the time and all the hunters killed were not armed. Vang was apprehended that evening by a DNR Warden without incident. Vang was found guilty on all nine counts of murder and attempted murder on September 16, 2005. Vang will spend the rest of his life behind bars.

The senselessness of this tragedy is immeasurable. Our town and our sport will never be the same. Our hearts and prayers go out to the families of our fallen friends. May they find peace in the knowledge that they are now in the comfort of God's amazing grace.

Rest in peace dear friends.

NEEDLESS TO SAY EVERYONE PACKS HEAT THESE DAYS

[JoFerret]

10. self deleted

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[gkdmaths]

2. Time to increase

the size of your fish-beater. or, keep a .38 in your creel.

:mad:

sheesh, and to think that at one point I sympathized with the activists...

[pretzel4gore]

14. the nsa spend $100's billions /year, on control

they probably infiltrate the animal rights/activist movement, then stage ridiculy things like this (while foxnews is nearby) just like old joe goebbels taught 'em....
you're easily manipulated there fella - bush is god, so weall better worship his arse (it's a godly arse)
i sympathise with the animals, including the fish stocks...activist are mostly narcs, imo, (especially if they strut around in public) unless they prove otherwise.

[Posteritatis]

22. Of *course!* All violent activists are government spies!

That's so much more comforting to think - no considering the fact that sometimes the problems really are the movements'.

Sometimes people are just assholes. They don't even have to be on Bush's payroll to be assholes, either!

[pretzel4gore]

48. history proves otherwise

no one, and i mean no one, who cares deeply about an issue does something that harms the cause; that's no one! who's left? narcs, that's who......

[PittPoliSci]

67. that's conjecture.

they may have felt they were furthering their cause by doing so.

[Anon]

52. NSA Huh?

Since this happened in the UK. I highly doubt that. Time for you to replace your tinfoil.

[pretzel4gore]

53. you think the pig respects borders?

the point was, the pig (the military industrial police prison complex) need to control the people, and vast sums are available worldwide in this service - this alf thing just an example of what the pig has done historically (infiltrating legit social protest movements, then arranging some outrage to damege the movement by exposing the activists as dopes, as fiends, as terrorist/communist/savages etc)

[Anon]

64. More tinfoil. EOM

[T_i_B]

60. No need for them to do that

As the lefties are quite able to make utter fools of themselves without any interference from outside. And the animal right movement is a prime example of left wingers acting like complete and utter pricks.

This is the first time I've heard of saboteurs going after fishermen, although they are well known to oppose fishing, and to use the same tactics of violence and intimidation on other sports so I'm afraid that I'm not surprised by this.

One other funny thing that I've noticed about hunt saboteurs is that they tend to recruit in urban areas where there isn't any hunting and not in the places where hunting is commonplace. For example they are regularly seen recruiting on Sheffield's Fargate but in places such as Maldon where hunting is popular they are only seen when there is a hunt to sabotage. Small wonder that those places with lots of hunting tend to become more right wing really as people resent outsiders coming in trying to tell them what to do in the name of an ideology that has no relevence.

[Kickoutthejams23]

3. Does a PETA member count against your limit?

The animal rights movement has been on this strange cult like violence kick for years. As the owner of two rescued stray cats. (Yes I used the word owner.) Who are happy healthy and couldn't be more spoiled. I am constantly appalled by the tactics of these various groups. Both England and the US are famous for their love of animals. If their goal was the actual humane treatment of animals they would be beloved. But they have jumped the shark (excuse me tofu). They want to ban the sale and consumption of meat as well as ban zoo's, medical research and pets. Good luck on that. So since they cannot seem to convince people to abandon their dogs, bacon and insulin shots voluntarily they resort to violence like some third rate communist insurgency. Attacking family's at park fishing? The hell with them. So if some guy in a fish suit assaults me while I'm fishing I don't plan to practice catch and release.

[silverojo]

11. I totally agree.

PETA goes way too far. They're acting more and more like anti-abortion terrorists each day.

[LeftyMom]

33. "dogs, bacon and insulin shots"

:wtf:

Just to clear this up (again) PETA is not opposed to the keeping of companion animals. Most of thier staffers have animals and many bring them to work. Those who don't generally have jobs that require frequent travel and preclude the proper care an animal deserves.

Modern insulin shots are produced by DNA technology. Bovine, porcine and fish insulin is not in general use, not due to animal concerns but simply because safer and more reliable options became available and medical science advanced, similar to the huge drop in premarin use several years back when better alternatives became widely available and science suggested that fewer women should be on any HRT at all.

[Kickoutthejams23]

40. So no bacon?

Many Insulin shots are produced with animal by-products. But the real argument is the fruit of the poison tree problem. If there was no animal testing there would be DNA technology let alone Insulin.

And yes PETA often interferes with the right of people to keep animals and their own feeling on pets are ambiguous at best

{quote} We at PETA very much love the animal companions who share our homes, but we believe that it would have been in the animals' best interests if the institution of "pet keeping"—i.e., breeding animals to be kept and regarded as "pets"—never existed. {unquote}

Sounds more like abolitionists than pet lovers.

[LeftyMom]

41. Hi, I realize you're new here, so I'm going to clue you in on something

I have a pretty good idea of what's going on in current thinking on animal rights and where different organizations stand. read my journal if you doubt that.

The stance of most vegan and AR groups (including those that could be considered somewhat fringe) is that humans ought not to use animal tested or derived products when a feasible alternative exists. Currently that means some things like tires simply aren't available without animal products so we deal. Biotech insulin such as humulin is a better alternative than an animal-derived insulin. Better still would be one that isn't tested on animals or derived from thier flesh, but unfortunately every prescription medication offered in this country must be tested on animals in order to gain approval, so until those rules change that's not a realistic desire. We advocate for alternative testing methods for both human safety and to reduce animal suffering.

As for your quote re: companion animals, I don't see what that has to do with anything. Saying that it would be better if animals were never domesticated is about as pie-in-the-sky as when John Lennon asked us all to imagine a world without war, nations or religion. Those things exist and now we have to deal with them. Certainly PETA has advocated for better laws to protect companion animals, run a spay-neuter program to prevent further breeding of animals with little hope of adoption and rescued them after disasters so I'd say they're doing a good job of handling a less-than-ideal situation.

No bacon though, PETA, like most animal rights groups, advocates a vegan diet.

[Matariki]

58. Hi, I realize you're new here, so I'm going to clue you in on something

people will look at your post count and try to use it to discredit your point :eyes:

also, talking about PETA is a 'touchy' subject around here and these threads get long and hot. Welcome to DU :hi:

[Psephos]

69. Hi, I realize you're new here, so I'm going to clue you in on something

I'm going to "clue you in" that it's nice to have you aboard DU, and that despite the tone of scorn and condescension you occasionally hear from people who have a different opinion, most of us appreciate a diversity of thoughtful posts. Welcome.

Y'all come on back now, y'hear? :-)

Peace.

[AngryAmish]

76. PETA like to kill dogs

[yewberry]

36. Oh, yes, let's joke about killing peta members

based on the illegal actions of an entirely different organization in an entirely different country.

[Kickoutthejams23]

38. From PETA's Own site

Here is the link. http://www.peta.org.uk/cmp/a-guide-11.asp


{quote}
"How can you justify the millions of dollars’ worth of property damage by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF)?"
Throughout history, some people have felt the need to break the law to fight injustice. The Underground Railroad and the French Resistance are both examples of people breaking the law in order to answer to a higher morality.

"The ALF," which is simply the name adopted by people acting illegally in behalf of animal rights, breaks inanimate objects such as stereotaxic devices and decapitators in order to save lives. It burns empty buildings in which animals are tortured and killed. ALF "raids" have given us proof of horrific cruelty that would not have been discovered or believed otherwise. They have resulted in officials’ filing of criminal charges against laboratories, citing of experimenters for violations of the Animal Welfare Act, and, in some cases, shutting down of abusive labs for good. Often ALF raids have been followed by widespread scientific condemnation of the practices occurring in the targeted labs. {end Quote}

When you compare yourself to the Underground Railroad and the French Resistance and claim a higher morality you will become a violence based cult. Just like those Abortion clinic bombing wackos. They compare fisherman eating their catch to Jeffery Dahmer eating his victims. http://www.peta.org.uk/cmp/a-guide-11-2.asp

And of course the fish are smarter than monkeys argument

http://www.fishinghurts.com/Angling.asp

I'm not saying anyone should go out and shoot PETA members or their ALF offshoots. I'm saying that 35 masked club wielding PETA members attacking innocent families in the name of protecting hyper-intelligent trout well that is a diffferent story.
:evilgrin:

[yewberry]

42. Are you serious?

First, you assumed that the people who assaulted those anglers were peta members. Why? Peta is a nonviolent organization, as stated at your own link, though you somehow overlooked that section of the FAQ. Just because they believe that fishing is wrong doesn't mean that they're out there threatening to push someone in the river. I mean, I think voting Republican is wrong, but that doesn't mean that I go out and throw rocks at Bush supporters.

Feel free to begrudge them their tacit support of property damage and some of their more mind-bendingly stupid campaigns (I know I do), but please stop furthering the lie that peta members are some kind of terrorists.

Second, at your own link, they are discussing ALF, not themselves. The two are not the same thing.

[Kickoutthejams23]

46. If you burn down buildings what are you?

First I admit used used PETA as shorthand for animal rights activists. But it is PETA themselves that link to more radical (and violent) animal rights groups not just with apologetic verbiage but with their own money. Operation Rescue also calls itself a nonviolent organization. That doesn't change the fact that some donations to the same will end up supporting those willing to take the cause a little further.

I support animal rights and the humane treatment of animals. I have only hunted once and am not an avid fisherman. I'm one of those guys that carry insects out of the house and release them into the "wild". I respect the right of people to choose a vegan lifestyle which is defiantly more healthy and in most ways superior to my own eating habits. I feel animal rights activists should be free to boycott and protest against governments business and groups that they feel hurt animals.

However when you start assaulting the general public because you are on a moral crusade I stop supporting. The verbiage of the movement has gone all moral and absolute. In many ways the Animal Rights community mirrors the anti-abortion community. Harassment, cruelty and violence are all tools for a cause. The end justifies the means. Think of the unborn children ( or in PETA's case chicken eggs) being slaughtered in our country crying out for their mothers.


Attacking anglers is really no different then throwing red paint on woman in New York. When people don't wear fur because they now feel it is morally wrong that is a victory for Animal Rights. When people don't wear fur because they are afraid of a random violent assault from an animal rights activist that is terrorism. The problem isn't that I would be shocked if PETA was involved. The problem is that I wouldn't be surprised if they are.

[yewberry]

72. If peta did that

then maybe you'd be right.

Peta didn't, and peta didn't attack these anglers, either.

There are plenty of valid reasons to take issue with peta, but there's no reason to pin this on them just because you think they're wrong.

[flvegan]

73. Fire in the hole!

Someone done tossed a logic bomb into this thread...

[kineneb]

39. not kill -deprogram!

http://duckboy.com/postcards5.htm
See #465! (As a Westerner, I love the Duckboy stuff.)

Lighten up, folks!:)

[Alexodin]

4. I think its a funny story even if its true and I doubt it but I

think 9mm handguns should be legal for an entirely different reason. They busted up her fishing rod? Really? Oh my. Shoot them! Hahhahahha

ed gram

[don954]

7. er, no, its this point i would be pulling some LF

""I decided to get out of there and go home but suddenly they all ran towards me waving bats and blocks of wood, shouting, 'Get her'. "

Do that around here and you can and prob will get shot, florida has some very liberal gun laws...

[FILAM23]

50. Damn right,

wantonly destroy my property and you are dead.

[RebelOne]

5. I am an animal rights advocate, but I cannot

condone violent actions like that.

[Mojambo]

6. That's very amateurish writing.

Something seems off.

[dipsydoodle]

8. I don't disbelieve that it happened

but it reads like something from the Framley Examimer :

http://www.framleyexaminer.com/pages/frontpage.html

Forward dear reader............

[JoFerret]

9. Fish mutilating and murdering

Extremist fish murdering and mutilating for sport versus extremist animal protectionists driven to desperation.
Another variant on the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable.

[Paladin]

13. Add To That The Extremist Responses On This Thread....

...from individuals eagerly contemplating circumstances where they could put a bullet in somebody else.

If you review the posts of our resident gun radicals down in the DU Gun Dungeon, you'll find that virtually every one of them finds hunting distasteful. All they're interested in is pistols and assault weapons---guns designed to kill people, rather than animals. Plenty of disturbing fantasies expressed in support of these preferences, as well.

I recently bought a top-of-the-line Winston fly rod; fast-action graphite, set me back $600.00. If some misguided PETA types decided to destroy it, they wouldn't do so with out a fight from me. I'd like to think I wouldn't kill anybody over it, however.....

[Posteritatis]

23. If multiple people rush someone while armed

I have no sympathy for anything that happens to those people up to and including their being killed by their would-be victim.

There is such a thing as self-defense, and most people aren't quite so telepathic enough to tell if these guys are going for their equipment or their ribs.

[benEzra]

51. Oh, COME ON...

If you review the posts of our resident gun radicals down in the DU Gun Dungeon, you'll find that virtually every one of them finds hunting distasteful. All they're interested in is pistols and assault weapons---guns designed to kill people, rather than animals. Plenty of disturbing fantasies expressed in support of these preferences, as well.

Oh, COME ON...is it possible for you to comment on ANY thread without bashing those who disagree with you on the desirability of banning rifles stocks with handgrips that stick out?

Yes, 80% of gun owners aren't hunters. Doesn't make 80% of us antihunters, just NONhunters.

I do eat meat, like most Homo sapiens, since by our dentition and digestive tract we are by nature carnivorous primates. I oppose cruelty to animals, but animal research saved my son's life (cardiac kid) and we do we have a resident cat in our house. Legally we "own" her, but pragmatically she owns us. There are extremists on both ends of this issue, and I find myself pretty much in the middle.

I have occasionally been fishing, but haven't been in years, as I would rather fish from a boat, the only boat we own is a late 1980's Sunfish daysailer, and it's pretty damn hard to fish from a Sunfish.

If my family were attacked by the clowns referenced in the OP, the clowns in question would likely get a dose of pepper spray if they didn't back off, and a visit to jail after I called 911. I wouldn't use a gun unless it appeared they actually meant to kill us or cause serious injury to a family member, but would never shoot someone over property. Never mind the $600 fishing pole, let them sink my $45,000 bass boat, if I owned one. We'd be dropping the equipment, backing off, and if they made it clear they were after my family, only then would they have a serious problem. If they didn't mean us harm, just our equipment, I'd just get a good lawyer and sue their asses off after the fact, and let them buy me a nicer boat and all-new fishing poles...

But I support their right to protest all they want, as long as they don't assault anybody else in doing so. Live and let live, and all that.

Back to the thread, dude...

[Paladin]

62. It's A Pretty Sunday Morning, I Think I'll Be Diplomatic

Let's just say that I find your criticism of saying the same things over and over and over and over and over and over and over on threads to be ironic beyond belief. I think you know what I mean.

And I stand by my original comments. When a thread in a Big Forum turns up with the same ugly, testosterone-infused, Let's Kill 'Em sentiments as the Gun Dungeon, like this one has, it bears pointing out.

[krispos42]

56. History has proved that killing people is not necessary immoral

That is why we have self defense laws.

When I lived in South Dakota I hunted, and enjoyed it. When I was there, I would think about the type of rifle or shotgun I would use, caliber, bullets, scopes, etc. Since moving to the Cities and away from the family members I hunted with, I still do enjoy reading about firearms, but my focus has shifted from hunting to self-defence.

If the situation has gone into the shitter so badly that a gun must be deployed, then the distinct possibility exists that it will be used. This is even truer when the sight of a gun does not scare off an adversary. When the shit hits the fan, you want the attributes of a tactical weapon, not a hunting firearm.

Masked people wielding boards and rocks? In a mob mentality? Such is a clear and present danger to the targets of their rage, and I'm not going to get killed, accidently or otherwise, by a mob without drawing and showing my gun. If circumstances permitted, I would fire a warning shot, letting the blast of the gun break through their frenzy. Past that, the situation gets very serious very fast.

I would not kill over material property either. This is not some post-apocolyptic nightmare world where living depends on increasingly scarce goods that are no longer made. But the safety of family and self comes first.

Something else I would like to note. Much of the talk there is the same as elsewhere in the DU: flip comments, bluster, hyperbole, etc. There have been a couple of times where I've gone off creeping through the house in the middle of the night with a gun and a flashlight to investigate some noise, and all that macho Stallone/Schwartzenegger/Segal/Willis/Gibson shit melts away pretty fast. Trust me, the doubts and what-ifs build up.

[soothsayer]

12. Sounds like a Monty Python skit n/t

[Barrett808]

18. Totally. n/t

[krispos42]

57. Cue up "Yakkity Sax" and let the frivolty begin! nt

[Tellurian]

15. These activists ought to go after the people dumping radioactive

waste water run off generated by their local Nuclear Energy facility into the Pacific Ocean in Orange County.

If they want to do something constructive to save the fish from the abominable cruelty of radioactive poisining, while indirectly saving human lives.

Their mission should be doing something positive rather than harassing people fishing for food/sport!

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. Pacific Ocean 'local' to Lancaster, England?

Not the last time I looked ...

[951-Riverside]

20. I agree with Tellurian

[Dutch]

24. You agree that Lancaster is on the Pacific?

:crazy:

[Tellurian]

29. If they really are Animal Rights activists, they would be concerned about

someone cavalierly dumping radio active material into the Ocean (no matter where that ocean is...0 would be right there Johnny on the Spot, to save the aquatic life and perhaps indirectly be performing a humanitarian effort at the same time.

[T_i_B]

59. If it's of any consolation

There are still polluted rivers in the North of England. Mind you, when a river or a canal becomes clean again the fish return and the fishermen also return to catch them so the sabs are pissed off either way.

[Pavulon]

16. Very Serious, Use of bats and more than 2 on 1

Justify the use of lethal force here. If that happened here someone would get shot.

The grouse shooting parties have 8 shot. Not lethal at range but hurts like hell. Lethal at point blank.

[mainer]

19. Do they attack catch-and-release anglers too?

A lot of fishermen just throw them back. For them it's a sport, not a slaughter.

And even if they don't throw them back, but take them home to eat, how is that any different than buying chicken at the supermarket?

[MrSlayer]

21. I carry a machete in my tackle box.

For the snakeheads. It would have found other uses had this been me that was attacked. Fuck these assholes, I don't play that intimidation shit.

[DiverDave]

49. I AGREE!!

masked people?, with CLUBS?? running towards my KIDS???

Dead masked people, thats what would have happened.

[Mountainman]

25. Save the chum! Did you ever wonder why some fish are worth saving

and others are not? Take chum for instance. No body gives a dam about their lives. You fish with them in the ocean and they die a horrible death in the bate box then they are thrown overboard unceremoniously. You save the whales and dolphins, but chum just don't get any respect

What's with all the shooters coming out in this thread? I think the story is bull shit but the reaction to it is really fucked up!

[Kickoutthejams23]

28. Shooting first is not that unreasonable

Your sitting in a park with your wife and two children and a gang of screaming masked folk charge your loved ones with baseball bats what should your reaction be? I have never pulled a gun on another human being and I don't carry one around with me. But under those circumstances I admit I'd shoot.

[Mountainman]

65. Then if they have guns your all dead

[Dutch]

26. No excuse for the violence

Interesting the countryside alliance immediately jumped in to condemn though, given how many of their members have vocally supported physical violence against MPs who voted to ban foxhunting.

[Southsideirish]

27. Leave God's creatures alone. Let them live in their realm and we in ours.

What's the problem there? Live in harmony with nature and don't kill or cause suffering to any being. Period.

[Pavulon]

30. You have evey in front

for a reason. evolution made you what you are. A predator. Catching fish does not disrupt nature.

People have been catching fish for ages. These aren't industry fishermen, these are average people out having a nice time.

They are lucky they are in the UK.

[MindPilot]

32. Nice idea, but people gotta eat. n/t

[arwalden]

31. Absolute KOOKS!

[fishnfla]

34. This is a fricking hoax ain't it

violent masked animal rights activists!

[LeftyMom]

35. Please keep in mind that the AR movement in the UK is different than here

First of all, there's a great deal more repression of legitimate and legal AR activism than there is in the US. For example, protestors opposed to a new animal testing facility at Oxford are limited to fewer than a dozen people, no megaphones or other amplifiers and less than an hour a week on one very small section of the campus. Other than that they are not permitted to protest in Oxford or near the businesses doing the work if they are located elsewhere.

If you stifle legitimate protest and drive people underground, stuff like this happens. I don't condone it, but I'm not surprised.

[LostinVA]

37. Were there any witnesses to any of this?

Because, it really does sound like The Onion.

[Odin2005]

43. More PETA moranism.

[flvegan]

44. Hearsay and bullshit are my guesses.

So 35 hunt sabs (that's what they are) interrupt a "handful" of peacefully fishing families. Maybe it was coarse fishing (that's the usual angling target for hunt sabs in the UK) and not happy little families as the story would have one think. We don't know, as the story is vague at best.

I'm curious about the woman getting punched in the face. Nothing from her...no charges pending...no "wanted" suspects. Likely that it didn't happen. Physical battery against living beings isn't the norm for animal rights activists. Ms. Belson also states something about throwing stones at her rod. More likely stones into the water, scaring the fish.

See what happens when you take one side of the story, told by one person? It gets spun as to however they want you to think about it. Sadly, I see DUers taking in that sweet nectar of the stupid, the Kool Aid.

The most laughable thing about this whole thread, are the folks that automatically, without fail, knee-jerk PETA into this. I swear, you folks are going to pull a muscle doing it like that.

[The Straight Story]

70. Maybe because they think their stance at PETA on fishing is a little wacky

http://www.petasearch.org/texis/search?dropXSL=&pr=default&prox=page&rorder=500&rprox=500&rdfreq=500&rwfreq=500&rlead=500&sufs=0&query=fishing&submit=Go

(it just seems a tad over the top to most I would guess...)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eating Fish Is Hazardous to Your Health

What You Can Do
Never buy or eat fish. Grains, legumes, vegetables, nuts, and seeds provide all the essential amino acids that you need for your health. Vegetarian products like Worthington’s Tuno (available in health-food stores) and mock lobster, shrimp, and crab (available online) have all the taste of the “real thing,” but none of the cruelty or contaminants. Omega-3 fatty acids, which help prevent heart disease, can be found in flaxseed, canola oil, nuts, and avocados.(41)

Before you support a “wildlife” or “conservation” group, ask about its position on fishing. Groups such as the National Wildlife Federation, the National Audubon Society, the Sierra Club, the Izaak Walton League, the Wilderness Society, the World Wildlife Fund, and many others either support or do not oppose sport fishing.

To combat fishing in your area, post “no fishing” signs on your land if you have a pond or lake, join or form an anti-fishing organization, and protest fishing tournaments. Encourage your legislators to enact or enforce wildlife-protection laws. In the U.K., the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals has the authority to check and prosecute fish farms and sport fishers for cruelty to fish.(42) Please visit FishingHurts.com for more information.

[flvegan]

71. And by that notion, every time a discussion

about, oh, I don't know, Bush doing something wrong, it's totally legit that folks knee-jerk a Bill Clinton blow job remark, right? I mean, they are in some obscure sense, related, so...

[IndyBob]

45. I can't imagine

how something like this will help their cause. Non-violent protest can be understood and sympathized with by many, but if they continue violent attacks on family members, general public reaction will turn against the entire movement.

My 72 year old pop and I are gong fishing in Canada in two weeks. Getting away from everything is our primary goal, a little peace and quiet. There are days we go out and not see another boat for 8 hours. No phones or TV for a week.

9 or 10 fish will meet their demise, I look forward to grilled fresh fish, served with an orange salsa and accompanied with a good bottle of Chardonnay. The vast majority of the fish will be released, made easier by using barb-less hooks.

If any of the extremists will be looking for me, I will be somewhere in Ontario. Good luck finding us.

[Critters2]

47. That's gotta be the least objective reporting I've ever seen

and I watch Fox (occasionally)!! Something doesn't seem right here. I don't believe it.

[BrightKnight]

54. The Orvis crowd writes a lot of Sierra Club checks.

People that enjoy nature are often interested in protecting it. Most game wardens are funded by hunting and fishing license fees.

[LeftyMom]

55. The Sierra Club is moderate, wishy-washy and pro-hunting, true

And of course all those game wardens are needed because of :think: hunters.

[OnionPatch]

68. That's right

my lefty husband among them. He is very liberal, loves the Sierra Club and considers himself an environmentalist, but if someone told him he had to choose between being liberal and fishing.....he'd probably stock up on more fishing gear.

[HuffleClaw]

61. what a bunch of complete loons

i'm pretty sure there are a LOT more horrible thing being done to animals than FISHING. you'd think they could go and picket some animal research place or something. idiots.

[formercia]

63. Not in Maine

It's against the law to molest someone's hunt or fishing. I spiked some ATV's of some jerks that were using my ice fishing traps as a slalom course. They went to get their 'daddy' who threatened to call the Sheriff. I told him to do so and save me the trouble. The loaded .357 within arms reach seemed to intimidate him too.

I like animals but don't molest my hunt. I carry a gun for just such an occasion.

[HarveyBrooks]

74. Wow

You're a REAL tough guy!

[formercia]

75. Nah

Lot meaner people than me around here.

[treestar]

66. We'll need metal detectors at all parks

And you can't bring shampoo or any other liquid into the park.

Time to ban wooden bats on airplanes and all other locations, too.

Those Muslims hate our freedom. Oh wait, these terrorists are home-grown. Tap their phones. This is hugh!!!! I'm seriessssss!!!!!!!11111