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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:16 PM
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Nagin: Racism, red tape slowed recovery
New Orleans mayor: Katrina response elsewhere would have been different
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin on Friday blamed racism and government bureaucracy for hamstringing his city's ability to weather Hurricane Katrina and recover from the disaster that struck the Gulf Coast nearly a year ago.

In remarks to the annual meeting of the National Association of Black Journalists, Nagin said the hurricane "exposed the soft underbelly of America as it relates to dealing with race and class."

"And I, to this day, believe that if that would have happened in Orange County, California, if that would have happened in South Beach, Miami, it would have been a different response," the mayor said.

Nagin, who earlier this year apologized after declaring New Orleans would again become a "chocolate" city, condemned federal regulations that discourage rebuilding in the largely black and low-lying Ninth Ward.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14414777/
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sgxnk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:19 PM
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1. pot, kettle
nagin, the mayor who stripped civil rights (by ordering guns confiscated), who totally screwed up katrina coordination/preparation/response and who, after the fact, said that New Orleans should remain a "chocolate city" (a blatantly racist comment) is blaming the response on racism

lol

i could cut the irony with a ladle

not to mention that NO was not the only location affected. the gulf region was devastated and poor whites were just as battered, lost, and poorly responded to .

the victims were victims of CLASS, not of race

and of course, victims of inept govt. and nature's fury.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:30 PM
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3. He Can Say "Chocolate City" because he is black
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 09:31 PM by stepnw1f
Oh...poorpoorwhites. And also.... weren't looters being accused by the right wing media of shooting at helicopters? BTW....FUCK THE NRA!!!!NRA is a front group for the gun industry.

Were you pissed at losing these civil rights? Women lose their rights to control their bodies, voters denied the right to vote, tax payer's the right to protest freely....now you don't have a right to privacy, and at the helm a dictator. Sucks, doesn't it?
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sgxnk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 08:56 AM
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5. wow... strawmen, evasions and tangents
focus on an issue or two ... you are all over the map

nagins comment was racist.

if a white mayor had said he wanted his city to remain "lily white" after a disaster, it would be equally racist

apparently, you cannot address the subject matter, since you hop down tangential bunny trails.

your basic point seems to be that it's ok for a mayor to be racist, because he's black

how progressive. MLK would be rolling over in his grave

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:10 PM
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6. Progressive? Coming from you that's funny....
It's pretty damn obvious why you go after Nagin... and it's not because you are progressive. So what the hell do you know about being progressive? So Mr. Progressive....did you care about all those other rights being violated or taken away too...or are guns and "Chocolate City" more important to ya? Nah... just Nagin....say hello to Rush for me.
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:53 PM
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7. History of land stealing
If you look at the history of land stealing from african americans, people would understand that his comments were based on what many know to be true who have lived there. I think all leaders have to be careful how they word concerns.
http://www.black-collegian.com/african/driven2003-2nd.shtml

Black Driven And Cheated Out Of Their Land
by Linedda McIver
The history of land loss in America spans hundreds of years dating back to broken treaties with the American Indians to the scheming maneuvers of powerful railroad companies and manufacturing giants who forced poor White landowners to sell. This history is well documented in books, movies, museums and archives.

However, very little attention has been given to the plight of Black land families who've lost thousands of acres of land taken illegally through underhanded dealings. Very little has been done to return the land to Black owners … until now.

In 2001, the Associated Press published the results of an 18-month investigation that revealed the extent that land has been historically taken from Black farmers, rural families and small business owners over the last 160 years. Their findings were published in a three-part web documentary titled "Torn From the Land."

In the series of articles, AP discovered that many cases of land takings involved Whites murdering Blacks to take over their land. In other incidences, Whites intimidated Blacks by threatening family members with murder, burning their homes or arresting Blacks on trumped up charges to force families to sign over land deeds. In some cases government officials approved the land takings, in others they took part in them.

Government involvement was the culprit in one of the cases highlighted in the AP series involving the Williams family of Sweet Water in Marengo County, AL, who fought a court battle in 1964 over a pair of 40-acre plots which state officials claim was not the Williams' property because of a 1906 federal designation as swampland. After the Williams family produced a deed and other documentation to prove ownership of the land, the judge urged the state to drop the lawsuit a calling the case a "severe injustice." The state won and the Williams's were ordered to leave their land.

In January 2002, after reading the AP story about the Williams' case, Alabama State Representative Thomas Jackson, D - Thomasville, introduced a resolution in the legislature calling for a 10-member panel to study whether the state has illegally taken land from Black residents. The house and senate passed the resolution to establish the African-American Land Loss Task Force.

The AP's public exposure of the Williams case also prompted former Governor Don Siegelman to authorize the State Attorney General to investigate whether the land should be returned to the family. According to Jackson, the investigation proved fruitful. Last November, Siegelman authorized the land to be returned to the Williams family.

"We were ecstatic to hear the governor's decision," Jackson said. "We plan to appoint the remaining members of the African-American Land Loss Panel in the near future. Hopefully, they will bring forth additional findings that will allow legislators to draft legislation that will properly restore land to their rightful owners."

The AP investigation of Black land loss included interviews with more than 1,000 people and examination of tens of thousands of public records. Their research uncovered 107 documented land takings in 13 Southern and border states resulting in 406 Black land owners losing more than 24,000 acres of farm and timberland, in addition to 85 smaller properties including stores and city lots.

AP reporters obtained information about the land cases by reviewing deeds mortgages, tax records, estate papers, court proceeding oil leases, and Freedmans' Bureau archives. They also interviewed Black families that lost land, title searchers, historians, land activists and public officials.

Some of the cases documented in the AP series include:

George Dinning and his family were in bed one night in January 1897 when about 25 White riders came to his farm with the intent of driving the family from their Franklin, KY home. The men accused Dinning of stealing turkeys and chickens and ordered him to leave his 142-acre farm within 10 days. After a brief altercation with the men, Dinning grabbed his shotgun and fired at the crowd killing one of the riders. The men retreated. Dinning turned himself in to the sheriff. The riders returned to the Dinning farm, threatened his wife and children with death and ordered them to leave. Mrs. Dinning immediately fled for her life with the children in tow. The next night their farm was burned to the ground.
Dinning was convicted of manslaughter, but later granted a pardon after an outpouring of petitions from prominent Whites who felt Dinning was wrongly incarcerated. Dinning moved his family to Indiana and later sued his attackers. The U.S District Court awarded him $50,000, but he received only $1,750 after the defendants claimed poverty. The Dinning family never returned to their land, which was folded into the holdings of their White neighbors who paid only the taxes owed.

In the 1850s, a Richmond, VA plantation owner Thomas Howlett directed in his will that his 264-acre plantation be sold and the proceeds be given to his slaves. Instead, the executor of Howlett's estate, Benjamin Hatcher, ran the plantation on his own. After the Civil War, the former slaves complained to the Union Army, which ordered Virginia courts to investigate. Hatcher testified that he sold the plantation in 1862 and invested the proceeds on the slaves' behalf in Confederate War Bonds. The bonds became worthless. Virginia courts ruled that the Blacks were owed nothing. Willow Oaks Corp acquired the property in 1955. Today the land is a country club with as assessed value of $2.94 million.
In 1908, 50 hooded White men circled the home of David Walker, a Black farmer in Hickman, KY, in an attempt to force him outside for a whipping. Walker refused and the men set fire to the house forcing Walker, his wife and five children to run outside. The riders shot them all, leaving three of the children wounded and all the others dead. No one was charged in the killings. The land was taken from the surviving children. Records show that Walker's 2 1ž2 -acre farm was folded into his White neighbor's property. The neighbor sold it to another man, whose daughter owns the land today.
According to the AP, the U.S. Agricultural Census showed that in 1910, Black Americans owned at least 15 million acres of farmland, nearly all of it in the South. Today, Blacks own only 1.1 million acres of farmland and are part owners of another 1.07 million acres.

AP admits that the information contained in the "Torn From the Land" series is only a glimpse into the extent of land takings from Black families because of gaps in public records. The AP reporters were only able to find crumbling tax records, deed books with pages torn from them and crudely altered records.

Dr. Marcus Tillery believes those records can be further researched by college students and young activists. "In recent years, Black land loss has tapered off since the USDA and others have been called on the carpet for illegal land takings, and organizations such as The Land Loss Fund (TLLF) has created more public awareness," said Tillery, one of the lead activists with TLLF, a grassroots, charitable organization seeking to improve the social, educational and economic welfare of those affected by the loss of family-owned land especially in rural African-American communities.

Tillery is also a professor of technology and chair of the Department of Manufacturing Systems at North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University. "African Americans should understand that land loss is not by accident. It is a conscious effort to rid Blacks of income-producing abilities. It is important that you find out and know about your family's land. If you find you have land, be sure to set up an heir property situation by putting the land in a trust or some other vehicle that protects the land."

He said college students are in a good position to assist in efforts to help restore land to Black families. "Students are privy to a wealth of research information and resources on college campuses," he said. "Corporations have the resources and ability to find out who owns what and take it. We must counteract that with our resources. Student research and assistance with grass roots efforts are ways to do that."
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:24 PM
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2. My brother in law is working down there. He said it looks
like a war zone. He said the workers can't wait for sundown so they can go get drunk.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 04:24 PM
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8. My friend just came back from NO last month


His family has property there.

He said it was so difficult trying to get ANYBODY to work and help clean out the houses.


And, when you found a warm body to work for you, they had little /no skills.
So sad

His mother's home was a mess inside. He worked with his brothers 10 hours a day and hardly made a dent in the repairs.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:33 PM
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9. He's an electrial engineer, so I bet he is working to get
businesses up and running.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 09:23 AM
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10. My friend is a lawyer. Were you responding to the wrong post? nt
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:26 PM
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4. OK .. so .. uh .. maybe Nagin should stop endorsing Republicans?
That is, if he really is concerned about the ideologues who cheerfully sang "look away! look away!" while his city drowned ...
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