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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 01:45 AM
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McCain tries to rally veterans for (George) Allen
<Maybe somebody should have clued in Sen. John McCain.

First, Sen. George Allen, R-Va., wound up a few dozen veterans with a "we win, they lose, there's no substitute victory" strategy for Iraq, then McCain followed with a joke about a monkey flying an airplane.

McCain, R-Ariz., was in town Wednesday night to lure some votes for his Republican colleague, Allen, who has heard enough monkey jokes lately. Especially since a report was unearthed that he used "macaca" in reference to S.R. Sidarth, a worker of Indian descendent for the campaign of Allen's Democratic opponent, Jim Webb.

The evening was billed as a "veterans for Allen" rally, but the hotel's conference room was less than half-filled, even after a phone push for a larger turnout. Veterans came from as far away as Colonial Heights, but their numbers were little greater than the reporters and camera people who were there.

As it was, the rally started 10 minutes late and finished more than 20 minute early, according to a campaign worker's schedule.>


http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/dp-02843sy0aug17,0,1907234.story?coll=dp-news-local-final
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 01:47 AM
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1. Is this a joke?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 02:07 AM
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 04:15 AM
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3. give mcCain a long rope
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:46 AM
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4. If George Allen is re-elected
Then he stands a good chance of being the 2008 Republican Presidential candidate....it's imperative that James Webb beats George Allen therefore.

If people think that Junior is dumb, wait until they get a load of George Allen....he's another fake cowboy, was born and bred in California, got where he is because he's another George Junior, his Daddy was the coach of the Washington Redskins George Allen Sr. George Junior is dumber than a box of hammers and looks like a fatter Howdy Doody....the media will market George Allen in pretty much the same way as they marketed Bush Junior.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:27 AM
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7. If George Allen is as dumb as you say
What does that say about the people who not only voted for him as Governor, but then voted for him as a US Senator, and will vote to re-elect him to the US Senate?

Tells me they're not all that smart either!

So you have dumb people voting for dumb politicians, go figure.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:15 AM
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10. "So you have dumb people voting for dumb politicians, go figure."
Correct you are Sir.
No matter what we write to enlighten voters, what corruption we expose, or how we vote, its still an uphill battle because of the MORONS who just don't care to listen or try to understand.
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:01 AM
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15. It says
That a section of people unfortunately are comfortable voting for an airhead and a borderline racist.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:52 AM
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19. Borderline racist?
The difference between Jim Webb and Felix is that Jim sleeps in bedsheets and Felix wears them.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:55 AM
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25. Not borderline....Card carrying is more like it.....
Anyone who scrawled racial epithets on a school wall as a teenager and today insults a dark-skinned person by publically calling him a "monkey" and who, while in college told a classmate that a football game would have been won if a "watermelon" had been thrown at the black runningback, is a racist. Period.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:24 PM
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31. Perhaps it makes them feel smarter?
I can just see it now - the new republi-CON mantra:

"It's the self-esteem, stupid."
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:23 AM
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5. Senator John McCain stands with racism.
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 06:27 AM by onehandle
The thing is, being a proven racist is a bonus for a GOP candidate.

That's how (especially here in the South) Republican voters can tell who the "real" Republcans are.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:09 AM
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6. Even after Rove's push polls in SC about McCain's "black baby,"
McCain still stands with the racists. :(
He has no shame. He is power hungry and seemingly without a moral rudder.

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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 07:55 AM
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8. Does McCain have ANY shame, shilling for this pig?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:07 AM
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9. No. nt
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 08:36 AM
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11. It's encouraging to hear that this "rally" was somewhat...
of a bust.

Georgie Felix Allen needs military cred, since he's a yellow-bellied chicken hawk running against a decorated military man, and he's supporting a policy of sending these guys into a FUBAR slaughter zone, so he figured he'd get it by sniffing up McCain's butt. McCain figured he could score a few points with a military audience leading into 2008. What shameless whores they both are.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:23 PM
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36. YO GUYS!!! Remember back in the day
we were fighting gooks, slopes, remember THEM? Sub-human sonsofbitches, all! Come out and support mah bud here who never went through it but can raise a Confederate flag with the best of us! WHITE POWER!!!
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 11:51 AM
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12. McCain has become nothing but an opportunist..
but that monkey flying an airplane is pretty cute. Reminds me of ol' george flying his F-102.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 12:03 PM
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13. Not So Fast...
Rent the movie, "Why We Fight". McCain points to Cheney as the basis for the existing government corruption
via the PNAC Agreement that all Republicans blindly signed up for. You will see, as he is being interviewed, he receives a call from Cheney, at the end of his stint giving the reporter his interview..
Scary Stuff. I have to give McCain credit though for standing up to the living breathing evil.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:42 AM
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17. So he helps to try to prop up one of Cheney's underlings.
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 05:43 AM by w4rma
That's how he "fights" them? Or is that how he fights *for* them?

You need to realize that McCain wanted *more* troops in Iraq. He is part and parcel of the neo-cons.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:50 AM
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18. McCain is sort of a cryptic kind of guy..(a Clinton mini-me)
If you look deeper into the article..McCain is practically telling you what will happen to the Republican domination of Congress IF Allen doesn't get reelected (especially after his slur against the Indians) When you vote for the other guy.

"Allen and McCain have disagreed on issues such as stem cell research - Allen is against it - and campaign finance reform, "but we agree 90 percent of the time," McCain said. (Sounds more like 45/50% of the time not 90%)

"The reason we have a Republican majority in the Senate today is because of George Allen's work with the Senate Republican Campaign Committee" in 2004.

Allen raised millions of dollars to try to get Republicans elected to the Senate, rolling up the kind of markers that McCain was paying off Wednesday night with his appearance.

Earlier in the day, Webb had rolled out a defense strategy that Allen later called "the (Ned) Lamont Democratic approach, and that's get out as quickly as possible, retreat, surrender."

Lamont recently beat Sen. Joe Lieberman in the Connecticut Democratic primary."


Clinton did the same thing for Lieberman. It didn't help. Neither will McCain's (in)voluntary support.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:55 AM
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20. He's only cryptic to you because you want to believe he's some sort of
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 09:56 AM by w4rma
anti-neo-con when he isn't. He's not very hard to read. And his support of almost everything Bush has done makes it all that much easier to read him.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:29 AM
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23. He's a very patient man. His POW record verifies that..
I'm a realist and have been involved in skirmishes with high powered people all my life. Through this experience I realized, I don't need to win every battle to be successful. My focus is winning the war. Of that, I will be undeterred. If you think your assessment of my thoughts on McCain is correct. ((I want to believe he's some sort of anti-neocon) There is nothing I can say to convince you otherwise. If you can accept what I've said at face value, with no other preconceived notions (as I've captioned), then we can agree.

I'm just returning to politics, after a break from it all, for over a year. I'm looking at whats going on with *fresh* eyes and notice the differences in the political landscape. You might think on doing the same yourself at some point in time. (to avoid political burnout.)

Opinions change when you take a break from it all. Little nuances become more evident and are seen as positives. Hatred and stagnated preconcived opinions have a blinding effect on people because they are stuck using former disagreements as their jumping off point.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:01 AM
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27. The fact is that he has enough popularity to do some real good, but
Edited on Sat Aug-19-06 11:15 AM by w4rma
he hasn't. He has pushed for an expansion of all of the wars that the neo-cons have been pushing. He is obviously very close to the big media higher ups as he always pushes for any type of pro-consolidation law or any other law that they want and they return the favor by giving him favorable media and by referring to him as a "moderate".

He's just a very good opportunist. Luckily he's appears to be too old to run for President, tho, so the U.S. Senate is most likely as far as he'll go. And he'll continue to use his power to help the Republican leadership push their dictatorial plans.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:18 AM
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30. I don't consider myself a historical expert on McCain..
As I said earlier, I am a realist..

Just reading briefly on McCain's political aspirations..

My initial observation, reinforces my thinkng.

He holds his playing cards close to his vest, as read in this
article published in The New Yorker,in the spring of last year.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/content/articles/050530on_onlineonly01

will ck in later on..




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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 01:26 PM
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14. I read that McCain hired the PR guys that attacked him during Bush run!
nt
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:03 AM
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21. Smart move. Attack Dogs defend the ones that fed them..
Just the other day our local carried a story where the K-9 unit was dispached to a shooting location. When the officer called for back-up, 2 units were dispached for the assist. Appartenly, the perp was hiding in a wooded area and when the assisting officers moved in suddenly a horrific cry was heard from one of them.

The K-9 loosed by his handler had attacked the assisting officer holding him at bay until someone from the K-9 patrol arrived on the scene.. The officer was hospitalized and released (albeit not too happy)

Some sort of irony there...don't know what it is, but it works.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:31 PM
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32. Perhaps it's - "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.:"
I once kinda liked McCain.

Once.

That was a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGG time ago.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:28 PM
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34. Precisely what I'm thinking..
It's a horse race, all the way-

You know going in, the only way you win is to pick your own spot.
When that hole opens up you dart through it until you are clear of the field.

Because we all know, (most of us anyway)running the race in the paddock is a losing proposition.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 05:04 AM
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16. I remember a time when I respected McCain . . . oh so long ago. nt
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:47 AM
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24. So did I. Then I got to know him. nt
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:09 AM
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22. McCain probably lets this guy refer to his adopted daughter as a Macaca
all the time and can't figure out what the problem is. God, he's thick.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:13 AM
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29. How McCain could stand by and let his own child be smeared like that is
beyond me. The guy is a disgusting pig.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:56 AM
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26. James Webb is a war hero, George Allen is a chicken hawk and...
John McCain shows us once again why he should never be elected President of the United States.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:04 AM
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28. Perhaps they have an agreement that if McCain
supports Allen now, Allen will return the favor by not running in 08. McCain's too thick to apparently see that after "macaca" Allen's chances of being put on the national ticket are slim to none - unless he's already promised Felix the #2 spot with him. What an albatross that would be around McCain's neck.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:14 PM
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33. any black veterans show up?
lol
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 01:38 PM
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35. What a Joke!
It gets funnier everyday with the GOP. What circus...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:49 PM
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37. Upholding a half-decade old tradition
of being out-attended by the porta-potties.



:headbang:
rocknation
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