D.C.-bound flight diverts after ‘altercation’

[sabbat hunter]

A United Airlines flight from London to Washington D.C. was diverted to Logan Airport this morning following a confrontation involving three passengers.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14375133/


more details as they become available.

apparently though the woman had a screwdriver and a note referencing al qaeda.

stay tuned.

[saigon68]

1. Wow a screwdriver, Lucky it wasn't one of these

[Javaman]

20. Or one of these...

Or maybe it was, maybe it was...

[TommyO]

46. A few of those might have helped

and kept the other passengers from being hijacked from DC to Boston!

[Bonhomme Richard]

2. QUICK. Put a lockdown on all hardware stores.

[qanda]

3. They just said on CNN that she had vaseline and matches also

[endarkenment]

12. So she was going to set her ass on fire? nt.

[Javaman]

35. Damn you! I just spit out my lunch! LOLOLOLOLOL nt

[saigon68]

42. Outrageous

LOL :-) :-)

[bowens43]

4. "The Sounds of Bullsh*t"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1919412

[katinmn]

5. A screwdriver? How did she get on the plane with one?

:evilgrin:

We can't even have nail files, nail clippers or Bics.

Anyhow, Terrah! Terrah! Terrah!

[Javaman]

33. Stop asking reality based questions! Why do you hate America? nt

[Gormy Cuss]

37. It came from the drink cart.

There's alway vodka and O.J.
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[Vidar]

6. Vaseline & a screwdriver. Call the marines,

[Kagemusha]

7. I don't think vaseline counts as a liquid explosive.

Call it just a hunch of mine.

[thecrow]

10. It might be called a gel though, as in Petroleum GELLY

I think it was the note that did it...

ROve, Cheney and Rumsfeld musta stayed up allllll night to write this.

[MrPrax]

39. Good eye citizen...

Definitely napalm...!!

God Bless George Bush :patriot:

[filer]

14. Good thing it wasn't K-Y

Explosive for sure!

[Demit]

8. I prefer Mimosas myself, when I fly.

[Freddie Stubbs]

9. No snakes?

[marmar]

11. A note referencing Al-qaeda?

I sense a full banquet of bullshit.

[rodeodance]

28. sorry, wrong post

[RamboLiberal]

13. Wonderful F'ing Security There

I get the feeling this woman is a deranged nutjob and not a terrorist. But just goes to prove while all we sheep are compliantly surrendering or sticking in our carryons all our toiletries and foregoing beverages that any determined terrorist will be able to smuggle aboard their weapons or explosives.

[Cooley Hurd]

15. According to CNN, AP is reporting denials from a TSA official...

...that any of the items named were even in her possession.:shrug:

[marmar]

16. Bullshit confirmed....

Subliminal mindfuck America.

[struggle4progress]

63. " ... One media report carried on CNN and major TV networks, and later ..

.. denied, said the woman had Vaseline, a screwdriver, matches and a note on the Islamic militant group al Qaeda. The FBI's <Nenette> Day said a search of her belongings produced no dangerous materials and no note from al Qaeda ..."

Unruly passenger forces emergency landing in Boston
Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:49 PM BST
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-08-16T184938Z_01_WBT005787_RTRUKOC_0_UK-SECURITY-BOSTON.xml&pageNumber=1&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage1

[zanne]

17. That woman could have been me.

I'm also very claustrophobic and I fly only when it's a matter or life or death. I also have a screwdriver on my Swiss Army knife, though I guess I couldn't get on a plane with that. I'd have to be sedated to fly, but I know other people who are claustrophobic who try to "conquer their fear" by facing it; in other words, no pills or booze pre-flight. (I guess that doesn't always work).

[Javaman]

18. Looks like bullshit, tastes like bullshit, smells like bullshit...

good thing we didn't step in it.

Wow, my bullshit alarm has gone off so many times these last 6 years, that I have to change the bulb.

[gauguin57]

21. No bullsh*t allowed on the airline, sir.

I think it qualifies as a gel-like substance.

[Javaman]

32. Dang, my cow ain't gonna like that! nt

[lisainmilo]

19. I am wondering how much RNC paid her

:rofl:


Seems she was getting claustrophobic according to CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/08/16/flight.diverted.ap/index.html

[pimpbot]

22. SHE HAD NO SCREWDRIVER, VASELINE, ETC

Whole story is BS. Media once again overblowing a situation.

[uppityperson]

25. you believe any of this story?you believe security catches all this stuff?

My answers: sounds like we don't have the whole story yet and no.

[timeforchangenow]

26. Ugh how embarrassing

is anyone else here shaking their head and thinking what dolts these main stream media outlets are? My God image a real emergency? What hype BS the media has become.

[Javaman]

34. During real emergencies, they* read to school children. nt

[timeforchangenow]

38. Terror attacks world wide and now...

a passage from the Noisy Cricket, "and he rubbed his wings together. But nothing happened. Not a sound."

[saigon68]

43. My Pet Goat

My Pet Goat is a masterpiece of strategic thought


Destined to take their place alongside von Clausewitz and Sun Tzu, Engelmann and Bruner have captured the very essence of strategic thought in a mere 32 large-print pages. In this masterwork, when Smirky the Goat is stung on the nose by Osama the Wasp, he jumps over the fence and butts the living daylights of out Saddam the Swine. Advanced students will see the seeds of the Bush Doctrine in this landmark book.

If you're a dictator masked as a leader of the free world, you'll love this book! It helps you sleep at night when thousands of people die on your watch. Ms. Engelmann has done the world a favor in writing this captivating book. It enriches the mind, and makes you forget about all the problems in the world. Like the problem of planes flying into stuff. But why worry, when you and the secret service KNOW that a plane isn't headed for the school you're in? Why worry about your life and the lives of hundreds of children when you've already murdered 3,000 others? Why worry when you've already pre-planned a war that will kill tens of thousands of foreigners and thousands of the very people you represent? Why worr..... mmm, sorry I got off track.
I rate this book a 5! It'll be famous someday!


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0026863553/sr=8-1/qid=1155749787/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-7312386-3788063?ie=UTF8


Wow-- this has got to be the best literary work ever! It makes "Gone With The Wind" seem like junk. The first time I read this, the house next door was on fire-- (i accidently started the fire, i just started reading this after I came from visiting next door). There was a family living there---a husband, a wife, and three young children. The fire was spreading and they were pleading for help. No one else could hear their cries but me. But it was not as important as finishing "The Pet Goat". From the first sentence, I was hooked! As the adults were burning alive, it meant nothing to me. I just had to find out if the girl got to keep her pet goat. When the part about the car robber came, i was biting off my fingernails in suspense. The three children then started to burn alive, and there was no one who could hear them but me. My knees were shaking in suspense as what would happen when the goat saw the robber.

Well, I don't want to ruin it for the rest of you. All I can say is, I was not dissapointed. Touching, moving, and at the same time, over the top! WOW.

Oh by the way, all the family members next door died, it was too late. I could have helped them or called the fire department, but finishing "The Pet Goat" was far more important. Even though this fire was caused by me, I feel no guilt whatsoever of being responsible for innocent lives lost.

Get this book, you won't be dissapointed! You can see how good it must be, if finishing it is more important than helping dying people who are dying because of your actions.

[Javaman]

55. You know, you maybe onto something there...

Just like when monty python created the "killer joke" to help defeat nazi germany, perhaps Ms. Engelmann created a modern manifesto with the writing of "my pet goat"? Basically, this is the PNAC road map to defeating terror wrapped in whimsy.

I think about how nursery rhymes were actually political statements reflecting upon the times of days gone by. Perhaps, with "my pet goat", she was trying to tell not only the U.S. citizens of the threats against us but for a global threat that was soon to grip the world?

Don't be taken in by it's light hearted nature, it's spells out in intricate detail the very nature of the world ahead of us.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

[truthisfreedom]

57. i believe the book was "The Pet Goat." we've all seen it as my pet goat

in so many references, though.

[saigon68]

61. I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT

follow the link to amazon. they have some outrageous book reviews there

[The Stranger]

52. She ordered a screwdriver and was drinking it.

[Fridays Child]

23. Can I get on an airplane with a full bladder?

:bounce:

[WisestLeader]

49. Can I get on an airplane with a full bladder? Interesting thought :-)

[saigon68]

50. No they will "WANT YOU TO VOID, ON THE TARMAC"

[uppityperson]

24. update from OP link

Naccara said he did not believe any items she was carrying were the cause of the outburst. An airport spokesman previously said the woman was carrying lotion, a screw driver and matches, but backed off the statement, and Naccara said it wasn’t true.

Of course she would not have those things because they are forbidden and no one is allowed on a plane with them. Security works, see? Keeps us safe. Catches all those bad items. She COULDN'T have gotten those on, see? :sarcasm:

[sabbat hunter]

29. new update

i had thought of making this a new post but felt it probably wasnt necessary

pilots declared an emergency because an apparently claustrophobic passenger caused a disturbance, a federal official said.


http://www.cnn.com/2006/TRAVEL/08/16/flight.diverted.ap/index.html


MSNBC jumped the gun a bit in their initial story and should have checked their facts

[uppityperson]

30. and, after all, we all know you can't get screwdrivers&vaseline by

thanks for the update.

[timeforchangenow]

36. CNN posted the screw loose lady had some Vaseline

and a screwdriver as well on their breaking news banner. So CNN is guilty of the hype meter too.

[rayofreason]

27. Clearly she had a scew loose.

[zreosumgame]

40. that's right a lady with a phobia

must be nuts, so you are advocating all passengers be screened by a shrink and only 'normal' people allowed to fly?

[rayofreason]

54. To reply...

1. On the humorous side, I thought that "screw loose" would be appropriate to a disturbed individual with a screwdriver.

2. I had not even thought about "..advocating all passengers be screened by a shrink.." and I have no idea where you got that from my post. But now that you mention it, if you have a phobia that has a high likelyhood of causing you to be a disturbance when you fly, then don't fly, or at least get a valium prescription and take a couple before getting on the plane. Someone who does cause a disturbance on a plane, or in an airport, can cause a huge problem for lots of other people, and they have no right to do so. A few months ago I was flying out of DC when they shut down the whole airport because some asshole, who was late for a flight, decided to skip past the security line. A security breach at National airport means a major headache for everyone there. I, and many others, got out 2 hours late. I missed my connecting flight and had to spend another night in a hotel. So while one might sympathize with someone who has a phobia, such a person has no right to cause a problem for others.

[Lisa]

59. these days, the stress of flying could perturb even a "normal" person!

Constant terror alerts, long delays and uncertainty, uncomfortable cabin conditions (the stuffiness caused by the airlines having turned down the ventilation to save fuel can bring on hypoxia, which can cause anxiety attacks) ...

If someone has a borderline psychological condition (and may not even be aware of it), extreme situations can exacerbate things. Several years ago, the woman next to me had a fit -- I was able to hold her hand while she wept -- she kept saying that she didn't know what was happening, because she hadn't had fear of flying before. (One epidemiologist I work with suspects that "sick building syndrome" caused by stale or contaminated air, of the type one often finds in airliners, may actually be triggering what looks like claustrophobia but isn't.)

One of my co-workers, who is about the same age as the woman in the news item, is a diabetic -- and partly as a result of an insulin low, she did have a panic attack en route to England last year. So that also might be a factor in this case. (My friend normally carries juice, which might not be possible from now on, even with a doctor's note, since it's not actually a "medication".)

[gauguin57]

31. OK, claustro. passenger causing a stir. But why massive bag inspection?

Thats the CNN pic of what authorities are doing on the tarmac ... inspecting everyone's luggage from that flight. Because of a claustrophobic passenger who went a little nuts? Who had NO screwdriver, al-Qaeda writings, vaseline or anything (early statements were incorrect).

The B.S. is getting deeper and deeeeeper! Wow.

[MrPrax]

41. She's 60 years old?!! n/t

[saigon68]

44. That's pretty fucking old

My Pet Goat is 60 years old

[MrPrax]

45. LOL...

Good one...



So is this bottle of scotch...

I bet Bush has no problem geting these 'liquids' on a plane...

[RebelOne]

58. Boy, I can't wait for you to reach 60.

You won't be laughing about your age then.

[Connie_Corleone]

47. What's the latest?

Was she trying to put vaseline on everybody and fix some loose screws on the plane or what??

[bmbmd]

48. Said she had a bottle of vaseline.

Said she wanted to "screw the driver".

[Massachusetts]

51. FEAR

"Only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
FDR

[hatrack]

53. FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!!

FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!! FEAR!!

That is all.

[Marie26]

56. Fear the anxious elderly woman!

When did we become a nation of cowards & Chicken Littles?

[tblue37]

60. If you are too damned claustrophobic to

tolerate being closed up in an airplane, then maybe you should consider a different mode of travel.

Just sayin'.

[freedomburn]

62. I'm so afraid of 60 year old ladies with non-existant jars of...

...vaseline. May I start to panic now? Should I go buy some duct tape or something??

HELP!!