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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:34 PM
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McCain weighs 'complicated' presidential run
Wire reports
Aug. 15, 2006 02:35 PM

Sen. John McCain said Tuesday there was "lingering resentment" against him among some Republicans because of his primary fight in 2000 with George W. Bush.

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"If I run, and we'll decide that early next year, there's a lot of work to do," McCain said as he began a two-day visit to Iowa, which traditionally holds leadoff caucuses in January of presidential election years.

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"Since we haven't decided whether or not to run, we haven't decided whether to compete here, but I think you could make the argument that it's very different than 2000," McCain said.

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This time, he said, "I think the nomination would be up for grabs, I really do."

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0815mccain15-ON-CR.html

The last sentence leaves me wondering... Did he never expect to win in 2000?


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:38 PM
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1. "Since we haven't decided whether or not to run..." Bullhockey! What
is he doing in Iowa?
And resentment from repugs? Ha! He lost his credibility because he swallowed the low blows administered by the cabal.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:38 PM
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2. Hey, McCain! Forget about it!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:39 PM
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3. I think it's hilarious that McCain thinks he can win
It's so cute.
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:41 PM
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6. It is, isn't it... Wonder who he'll want for VP...
Jeb or Frist? Condi?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:40 PM
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4. That is all bull s-- . He will be the nominee for president (R) in 2008.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:11 PM
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16. Scary, isn't it? nt
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:39 AM
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29. I doubt. It will be a complicated explanation why he's such a Bush suckup
The rest of the party is trying to distance itself from Monkey Boy. He's got an awful lot of explaining to do. I'll sit back and laugh as he tries to B.S. his way through it all.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:02 AM
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31. It seems that his military record will appeal to a lot of 'murcans. Flag
waving and the fact that the media loves him makes him tough to beat for th R nomination.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:22 PM
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35. I think he's unlikely to get the nomination
though anything is possible.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:41 PM
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5. I can't even stomach the thought of McCain as President.






:puke:
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:28 PM
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18. Lordy, the pair of those pics together is revolting.......n/t
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:42 PM
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7. That man annoys me
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:43 PM
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8. Cracked Actor.
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 08:43 PM by orpupilofnature57
Unfortunately he was duped by an Idiot, and all the heroism in the world,, won't move the Repukers.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:45 PM
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9. McCain's success in 2008
depends on how far the RW of the party is willing to compromise. Considering how much they trashed him in 2000 I can't imagine that he'll have an easy go of it. I think a McCain/Guiliani ticket could win, but I doubt the base of the Republican party would go for it. These wackos think they are on a roll and believe they can have the American theocracy they get all moist over. McCain won't give them that.


He is also getting very old and his recovery from cancer could flip at any time.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:03 PM
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14. I think a McCain-Giuliani ticket is fairly likely . . .
But I don't think they can win.* I think McCain is unstable and really, really cranky, and will blow up on the campaign trail. He'll be seen as an unstable hothead, a victim of Recurring PTSD. And Giuliani is a snake. His charisma will curdle quickly and he doesn't really speak that well. His sleazy treatment of his former wife will really hurt him with women.

Bring it on, I say!


*Note: This excludes 1) Wholescale vote fraud a la 200/2004 and 2) Dem candidate self-destructing in some way.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:32 PM
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19. There's a marriage made in heaven. Talk about two wierdos running.
Spare me.
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robbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:56 PM
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22. You left out one other scenario for a McCain win...
No matter how cranky, self destructive or plain out stupid a presidential candidate might be, it is the press who deigns to tell us what this person is "really" about. Hence, in 2000 we got "plain speaking, straight shooting" GW versus "stiff, wooden, serial liar" Al Gore. Neither narrative was even remotely reflecting the truth, but the press had a story to pitch, and pitch it they did. And unfortunately it seems the average voter (or a good lot of them) actually bought that rubbish. The Daily Howler did a great job with that election revealing what a senseless echo chamber our current "free" press really is.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 07:32 AM
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28. Well, yeah . . .
If the press falls in love with MaverickMcCain (TM), we're doomed.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:48 PM
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10. Maybe he could run with LIE-berman
They could run on the TRAITOR ticket. I know many repugs who feel the same way about McCain that we do about LIE-berman.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:20 PM
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27. Actually, David Brooks recommended this ticket
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:50 PM
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11. So much neo-con and fundie ass to kiss and so little time and he thought
kissing the idiot's ass in 2004 would get it all done for him. What a whore.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:51 PM
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12. Too old, too old, too old, too old, too old, too old, too old, too old
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:59 PM
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13. The polls show that Guilliani's numbers beat McCain's
badly for possible GOP frontrunners. I think all the bush bowing, scraping and eating shit that McCain has done in the last six years will be for naught. And in doing so, he squandered all the support he used to have from moderate democrats. IMHO, he is correct. The nomination will be up for grabs. He just won't be the one grabbing it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:13 PM
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17. Do all the repugs know Giuliani is for-gasp!-gay rights? Do they
know he's-gasp!-divorced?
I don't see it. Repugs, conservatives, evangelicals, there will be many people who won't vote for him.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:44 PM
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20. And I hear the bushes don't like him, so they won't be throwing
their support (big money friends) behind him. They say the only other goober as dumb as dubya is Allen, so the neocons will probably want to run him as he would be more maleable and easy to manipulate. Not sure how Jeb will play into this. I think he would probably want to wait until 2012 to get some of dubya's stench out of the air. Either way, it will be an interesting show.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:07 PM
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15. Uh, the straight talk express ran out of gas? With it being over $3 now,
I can understand why. That, and McCain, who I once liked, is a total sellout and groveling whore.

Moral of the story: Give no quarter to any Republican, no matter how they try to present themselves.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 09:55 PM
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21. I see it like this:
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 09:55 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
McCain, god bless him, sat his ass in The Hanoi Hilton for a long time, enduring torture and the conditions there. All he had to sustain himself with was what was in his head. I suspect that a big part of what sustained him was the thought that he would get out of there, return to the US, and be president someday.

He sees it as his destiny.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:07 PM
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23. I'd have bought that until 2000, and his ceaseless
suckupitness to dimson. All bets, for me, were off after that. I USED to respect him.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:11 PM
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24. I think he sucked up...
Because he was told that he wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of running if he didn't suck up. Being a milspec suckup, he sucked up.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:13 PM
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25. And therein lies the problem. He's corruptible, and that doesn't
wash with me. A man of integrity sold himself for what? He's diminished in my opinion, and he'll never get that back.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:18 PM
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26. I agree.
I am not praising the man, especially regarding his recent stances and actions.

His vaunted temper is another reason to give pause regarding him.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 09:33 AM
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30. He's going to be in Norfolk, Va tonight
to support George Allen at a Veterans for Allen rally. Wonder if more protestors will show up than Veterans....:evilgrin:

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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 11:06 AM
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32. The neocons will pick the next repuke candidate for pres. They have his
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 11:06 AM by Sapere aude
name already. We will find out soon. The machines already have him the winner. Cheney is the man. He aready runs things.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 01:55 PM
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33. He better pick his VP wisely, McCain would be the oldest president
eve elected if he won. And his health isn't very good.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 02:06 PM
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34. HIS ABILTITY TO "SUCK ASS" IS UNAFFECTED
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 02:06 PM by saigon68
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:21 PM
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36. That picture makes me cringe.
It's like, "Please, don't hurt me, anymore, Daddy. I'll be good. I'll be good!"
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:56 PM
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37. Its in a word----DISGUSTING
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-16-06 08:58 PM
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38. Oh, so complicated
Edited on Wed Aug-16-06 08:59 PM by Marie26
McCain wants desperately to run. That's why he's been sucking up to the Republican establishment for the past 6 years.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-17-06 08:30 AM
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39. How about a Clinton/McCain ticket or vice versa?
They have spent a good deal of time traveling together and are in agreement on a lot of topics. Their big pitch would be unifying America and people are just stupid enough to buy it...
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