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JohMunich99 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:27 PM
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Democratic Senate Candidate promises to cure cancer by 2015
"With a month to go before primary voters head to the polls to choose Senate nominees, Rep. Benjamin L. Cardin kicked off yesterday a weeklong effort to highlight his congressional record and vision on health care by making the mother of all campaign promises - to cure cancer.

Cardin, a Democrat from Baltimore County, gathered with cancer survivors and doctors in Lutherville to detail his efforts to expand cancer screening and his plans to fight the disease.

"We are going to lick cancer by 2015," Cardin told a group of 15 people at the HopeWell Cancer Support Center on Falls Road.

The health care push comes as he and other candidates fight to distinguish themselves from the crowd of Democrats and Republicans vying to replace retiring incumbent Paul S. Sarbanes, the state's longest-serving senator. All are hoping to make their views and accomplishments known as voters start to pay more attention to the high-profile race."


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/politics/bal-md....
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:31 PM
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1. That is silly
First cancer is 100 different diseases. 2nd, as a Rep he may support and help fund more money for reaserch but he caure cancer........Why don't they stick to WHAT they can do and stop playing god??
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:34 PM
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3. See, you fell for it. He did not say CURE...he is saying it can be licked
with EARLY diagnosis using PREVENTATIVE HEALTH CARE!
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:41 PM
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4. I'm sorry..Is everyone having a problem with english today?
HEADLINE
Cardin promises cancer cure

TEXT
With a month to go before primary voters head to the polls to choose Senate nominees, Rep. Benjamin L. Cardin kicked off yesterday a weeklong effort to highlight his congressional record and vision on health care by making the mother of all campaign promises - to cure cancer
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:55 PM
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7. Just you it seems
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 02:58 PM by Tempest
He did not say "cure cancer", that is what the author of the article said.

He said "We are going to lick cancer by 2015,".

There's a big difference.


No where in the article does he use the word cure.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:07 PM
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9. He sounds like *
WHY could he not make a commitment to more funding? Cancer is 100's of different diseases....LICK Cancer was rightfully interpreted by the columnist and the the political scientist the same way. What OTHER interpretation would you put on his statement?
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:14 PM
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10. Sounds to me like
his words were twisted by the columnist. I remember what they did to Gore's statement about the internet.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:24 PM
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11. Answer me this
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 03:25 PM by Tempest
How can he make a commitment to funding if (1) the Democrats are not in power and do not set the agenda and (2) there's no support from the Repugs to commit to more funding?

Give him a chance. If Democrats take back Congress, then let's see if funding is increased. I'll bet a retirement check it is.



>>Lick Cancer was rightfully interpreted by the columnist and the the political scientist the same way<<

Relying on someone else's interpretation to base your own belief on is a sign of a weak mind.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:49 PM
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14. He's running for office
It was a a stump speech pandering to cancer survivors.

-------Lick Cancer was rightfully interpreted by the columnist and the the political scientist the same way<<

Relying on someone else's interpretation to base your own belief on is a sign of a weak mind.


Isn't that WHY they are journalist is to convey information? Thanks for the insult.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:04 PM
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15. In this case the journalist added his own editorial
Changing "lick" to "cure" is not journalism, it's editorialism.

Just as your use of the word "pandering" is editorialism.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:54 PM
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6. And it took a DU newbie to catch it
Welcome Angstlessk. :hi:

I look forward to your future posts.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:06 PM
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8. Thanks for the welcome!
and thanks for the backup!
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:26 PM
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12. Good catch
but as you see some still fall for the twisted media wording. I think an e-mail to the author about that twisting of words will set him straight. They need to be hit for their false interpretations.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:20 PM
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17. NO it won't
but it will certainly help
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:17 PM
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16. 3 things...
He didn't say that, as has been noted. The columnist is stuffing words in his mouth with a dishonest headline -- another bit of "Al Gore Says He Invented the Internet" crap. LBN rules say you have to use the headline intact, though, so don't blame the OP.

Second, if we cured 90% of cancer cases even if that was only 5 of the major kinds of cancer, I would say we would have for the most part "cured cancer"

Third, we are a lot closer to having actual cures for cancer than most people realize. It would not be unreasonable to say that cancer will be cured in 2015 -- as to whether that cure will be available anywhere but in an FDA trial program, that's an open question. However, semantically, a cure is a cure whether or not it is administered.

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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:28 PM
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18. That's is certainly YOUR editorial
BEFORE we 'cure' any cancer it will become a manageable disease like diabetes. Considering ALL cancers are entirely different diseases, different causes, different treatments this will never happen that fast.Having the research dollars funded by congress will help to speed the process. Clinical trials can take years, development of drugs or vaccines will take additional years.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:30 PM
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19. If you don't believe me, read up on it. n/t
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:32 PM
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2. He did not say 'cure'..he said 'lick'...with EARLY diagnosis with
PREVENTATIVE HEALTH CARE RATHER THAN PREVENTATIVE WAR! :grr:
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:43 PM
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5. He was speaking to a group of cancer survivors.
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 02:55 PM by countingbluecars
"We are going to lick cancer by 2015," Cardin told a group of 15 people at the HopeWell Cancer Support Center on Falls Road.

Sounds like an uplifting speech about improving screening and research. Nothing wrong with that.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 03:35 PM
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13. Not any crazier than
winning the war on terror. Actually, licking cancer is more likely than the other, especially if the Repugs stay in power. Cancer can be fought with weapons. Terror can not.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:42 PM
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21. Better than the repugs
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 04:43 PM by pokercat999
"just say no to cancer" campaign........or was that drugs.....hmmmmmm, guess I wasn't paying attention.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 04:32 PM
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20. Well, he might have chosen better words
Edited on Tue Aug-15-06 04:34 PM by depakid
But his heart is in the right place
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