Hunt on for baby bombers (Terrorists Using Babies as Cover)

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006370444,00.html

HATE-filled mums willing to sacrifice themselves and their BABIES are being hunted in the war on terror.

Security sources confirmed last night that alleged “baby bombers” were among those arrested over the plot to massacre thousands by downing transatlantic flights.

Those being quizzed included a husband and wife with a six-month-old infant.

The discovery prompted fears that there were fanatical mothers in secret al-Qaeda cells in Britain ready to become suicide bombers — and to die with their tots in their arms.

And it emerged as the reason why women at airports were ordered to drink from their babies’ bottles before being allowed to board flights during last week’s massive alert.

But our TSA has cleared baby formula and food as ok to take on planes.

[TomInTib]

1. Will they snatch those babies out of incubators?

Just wondering.

[LeftCoast]

3. They are laying it on a bit thick, aren't they?

:)

[TomInTib]

6. I cannot wait for the next installment.

pins and needles, here.

You're in SF? We are in Tiburon.

We could just shout this outrage across the Bay. I can probably see you from my house.

[Betsy Ross]

43. I'm in Alameda. n/t

[pitohui]

19. yeah it's a tabloid

but one of the plotters was in fact a mother w. 6 mo. old baby

i say ban babies from airplanes, we'll all be the better for it :-)

[elehhhhna]

32. Reports so far say ONE woman arrested. Not many. Not even plural.

[saigon68]

35. They will snatch them only if they can STOMP them into PULP

Like Saddam PERSONALLY did in 1990

[Junkdrawer]

52. Like Saddam in Kuwait? Oh, wait, that was just propaganda...

Never mind.

[saigon68]

57. You got it

[caligirl]

2. Wooo I read that as baby boomers being sought out, fanatical boomer

moms? I have to learn to think as I read.

[Castilleja]

56. Great minds.......I saw the same thing

in the title, lol!

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. This kind of stuff is beyond the pale. It is pure speculation by

ultra rw arab haters. It is a rumor being widely circulated by those bastards. It is an attempt to justify the capture of the couple with the baby.

[RamboLiberal]

5. I posted this Sun story cause I wanted to help get across

the point what BS TSA pulled last week. I would say it wouldn't be beyond the realm of a terrorist who would commit suicide to blow up a plane would probably not have any qualms about using a baby as a ruse to smuggle in explosives in baby formula or food.

And since TSA is allowing baby formula and food onboard - then they have a security hole in this ban.

[Kagemusha]

7. But it's *The Sun*.

Calling them ultra rw Arab haters isn't even an exaggeration...

[RamboLiberal]

8. Here - this is from Australian News

THE nation's top police officer sees an alleged plan to use a baby in the foiled British terror bombing plot as a chilling development.

But Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty has backed away from tougher security measures at airports, saying the idea of testing infant's milk before air travel should be left up to regulators.

Scotland Yard police are questioning a husband and wife who allegedly planned to hide a liquid bomb in their baby's bottle to bring down an airliner, Sydney's Daily Telegraph reports today.

They are among the 23 suspects arrested over the plot to blow up airliners headed for the United States in mid-flight.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20119082-1702,00.html

[The_Casual_Observer]

12. It's the same story picked up by some other place. Same text

Who knows what "http://news.com.au" is?

[RamboLiberal]

13. It's in the Sydney Herald

http://www.smh.com.au/news/general/baby-bomb-plot-chilling-keelty/2006/08/14/1155407701800.html

[soaky]

53. news.com.au

is the main site for all the murdoch-owned (i think it's murdoch - fox) australian news/media

[pitohui]

21. i agree w. your point

if you thought blowing up the infidel was your ticket to heaven why wouldn't you want that for your child?

this planet sucks, if there is a better place, why wait

[CJCRANE]

28. From what I remember

the Sun also printed that Saddam could nuke London and hit British bases with WMD in 45 minutes.

It's a Murdoch rag.

[pitohui]

50. it is no rumor, UK authorities now have the hollowed out baby bottles

see downthread and the related thread on "gel filled bras"

[RamboLiberal]

9. And from Conn Post

The federal agencies enforcing the ban on liquids on domestic flights were unable Friday to say how they could stop terrorists from exploiting the exceptions — baby formula and prescriptions.
The question to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the Transportation Safety Administration, a day after the ban went into effect, was what would stop terrorists from using their wives and children as cover to allow them to smuggle explosives or some type of biological gas disguised as baby formula onto planes.

<snip>

A spokeswoman for Homeland Security, who did not identify herself, said of the baby formula, "You have to try it." Passengers will have to drink the formula, she explained, before directing further questions to the Transportation Safety Administration.

However, there appears to be a disconnect between DHS and the TSA, which actually handles security at airports.

According to the TSA's Web site, the "TSA will not ask passengers to sample fluids or beverages during the screening process. This process is being required at foreign airports and is not required at any domestic U.S. airport. Infant formula must be submitted for inspection to a TSA security officer by passengers traveling with a baby."

http://www.connpost.com/business/ci_4173188

[High Plains]

10. Hysterical tabloid garbage.

[htuttle]

11. Well, you have to understand. Babies have a LOT of liquids in them

An apparently never-ending supply, in my experience.

[saigon68]

36. HMMM ISLAMO FACIST INFANTS

[MidwestTransplant]

14. Easy solution:

No babies, liquids or shoes on airplanes. Anythings else?

[cornermouse]

31. How about no people?

That would appear to be the ultimate goal and I'm ready to oblige them.

[pnwmom]

15. I thought I read somewhere

that this group of terrorists were planning to take flights that involved a stop. That they were going to get off at the stop but leave their homemade bombs on the plane.

If that were the plan then they wouldn't be risking a baby's life or any of their own, either.

Anyone know anything about this?

[RamboLiberal]

18. Hadn't read that about this plot - though Bojinka had the

terrorists outting the bombs under seats in the lifevest and getting off the plane at a layover or stop.

[pnwmom]

23. That sounds like what I heard -- they were getting off at a layover.

[pitohui]

22. no these were transatlantic flights

they were going to die, baby and all in mid ocean

[pnwmom]

24. They were transatlantic, yes, but couldn't they have originated

in one city, eg, London, and then had a stopover in another, eg Dublin, before going across the ocean?

[pitohui]

26. i doubt it

it's a long enough day w. out a stopover in dublin don't you think?

but they have not confirmed what flights were to be taken and probably won't be able to since the tickets were not yet purchased

i never took any flight from LON that stopped over before it reached the usa, not to say that there aren't any, but it seems like to go LON-DUB you'd just grab a $12 ryan air and be done w. the matter

[elehhhhna]

33. Link to plan for wife, hubs & baby to all book flights, please.

[pitohui]

51. here's the link

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/08/authorities_war.html

deny all you like, the UK authorities now have the hollowed out baby bottles contaminated w. peroxide

i don't see why it is considered racist to assume that the terrorist enemy is smart enough to figure out a hole in security that half of DU and many other websites figured out the minute the security precautions were published -- complete w. statement that baby bottles would be allowed

these people are not stupid, you know

[leesa]

16. What utter crap.

[merwin]

17. My child drops a large bomb at least once a day.

Sorry, had to include that.

[truthisfreedom]

20. hrm... i read it first as "hunt on for baby boomers"

heh.

[pnwmom]

25. lol! me, too, actually

glad I'm not alone in my paranoia

[madrchsod]

27. it`s the sun...

all the news that fit to clean up dog shit with. the herald? fit to clean up cat shit...

[HuffleClaw]

29. BULLSHIT

more hateful propaganda

[bowens43]

30. Yeah, right.

[superconnected]

34. my bullshit meter is hitting a 10 on this one.

[GeorgeGist]

37. I cannot imagine hating so much...

that I'd sacrifice my child just to satisfy myself.

[regnaD kciN]

46. But you're not one of them Ay-rab Islamofascists...

Don't you see? Muslims aren't like normal, decent people. They're even devoid of the usual nurturing impulses toward their children that all of us civilized Judeo-Christians westerners have. They're so hate-filled they wouldn't think twice about sacrificing their own baby to kill us. Just like the Russians used to be...or at least like we were told they were back in the days of the Cold War. :sarcasm:

And, of course, since we now know that Muslims are so inhuman, we shouldn't think twice about using bombs and rockets against them, right? :grr:

[drduffy]

38. Hey, I'm a baby boomer..... I hate Bush and Blair,

I hate the American Empire.........

Oh, I forgot. I have no infant child........

Well, I have dog...... so choose me, choose me.....

[One_Life_To_Give]

39. If true points to bigger issue

If it were true that UK born mothers were willing to make this sacrifice. Then there is a much bigger problem brewing in the UK. One that would have open armed conflict in the streets of London.

[LostinVA]

40. Oh my, I believe every hyperbole-drenched word of this

Are the babies first being taken from incubators smashed by "Islam Fascists"?

[GliderGuider]

41. No, no, no - I'm quite sure they meant Baby "Boomers"

We are filled with hate at the idea of growing old, so we're going to go out with a bang...

[SlavesandBulldozers]

59. lol

[daleo]

42. This seems like dehumanizing propaganda

Whenever I see claims like this, it just makes me suspicious of the whole thing.

[KoKo]

44. More Propaganda t o whip up the "fringe" that supports the Idiot

into frenzy. Will be repeated by his knuckle draggers and on every Christian radio station all over the country.

[Sven77]

45. you dont believe this crap do you ?

this is just bogus propaganda. line up and be slaves. give up your rights. cant even bring milk on a plane for babies? is everyone scared of their own shadow ?

[devilgrrl]

47. Aren't the terrorist supposed to eat the babies first...

then blow them up? :sarcasm:

[saigon68]

49. First they throw them on the floor after they snatch them from incubators

[pitohui]

48. per ABC news the tabloid has been vindicated

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/08/authorities_war.html

Authorities at Scotland Yard are questioning a husband and wife, suspects in the London terror plot, about allegations that they were planning to use their baby's bottle to hide a liquid bomb.

Police in the U.K. have recovered baby bottles containing peroxide, including some with false bottoms, from a recycling center close to the homes of some of the arrested suspects.

The use of female suicide bombers has been successful in previous airplane attacks.

[Matilda]

54. Poses some hygiene problems.

Both bottles and teats of baby formula have to be sterilized, so if the mother drinks from the
bottle, it's no longer sterile. If she's carrying any germs - and everyone does - could be bad
for the baby.

I guess all mums planning to fly should breastfeed.

[raccoon]

55. At first I read this, Baby Boomers.

And thought, Oh, man, what are baby boomers being blamed for now?

[hedgehog]

58. This is the perfect example of crying wolf.

People tend to forget that one day the wolf did show up and nobody paid attention. Just because there was propaganda about infants being taken out of incubators 14 years ago doesn't mean that there is no truth to the current story. The Brits exaggerated German atrocities during World War I and people used that fact to deny the evidence of the death camps during World War II. (I'm not talking about modern day Holocaust deniers. I'm talking about people in the US State Department during WWII.) Each incident needs to be studied and judged for itself. People are questioning whether someone would kill his or her own child. We are talking about the possibility of people planning to take down 10 plane loads of strangers. If someone is willing to do the latter, it's not a big step to so the former.

[Jacobin]

60. Oh, and warm fuzzy puppies...and cute little kittens

The terraists want to poke out their eyes!!

Yes, yes, its TRUE