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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 03:08 PM
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FBI says flights to Boston not specifically part of plot (then which?)
Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 03:34 PM by NVMojo
August 12, 2006

The FBI's top agent in New England said yesterday that there was no indication that flights to Boston were targeted by a group of suspected terrorists arrested in Britain, Italy, and Pakistan in connection with an alleged plot to blow up passenger planes bound for the United States.

``The information I have is that they were targeting planes with US destinations and it was unclear which destinations they were targeting," said Kenneth Kaiser , the special agent in charge of the FBI's Boston office.

more...

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/08/12/fbi_says_flights_to_boston_not_specifically_part_of_plot/
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 03:32 PM
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1. Liars!! How do they know this?
Edited on Sat Aug-12-06 03:32 PM by NVMojo
snip ...
``They didn't have a specific city in mind," Kaiser said. ``They were in the preplanning stages. They were going to try to do dry runs and things like that. They had not got there yet."

snip...

when on August 10th this ran in Forbes:

WASHINGTON (AFX) - A plot to blow up airliners targeted at least three major US carriers on flights from Britain, with destinations that included at least five major US cities, a US intelligence official said Thursday.

newsdesk@afxnews.com

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/afx/2006/08/10/afx2940942.html
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 03:41 PM
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3. More on the boston flight cancellation
Terror grounded: UK foils plot to blow up 10 planes
Baljeet Parmar/Uttara Choudhury
Friday, August 11, 2006 01:00 IST

MUMBAI/NEW YORK CITY: An eerie prologue to the events of Thursday played out to anxious authorities on Sunday. Masked explosives capable of destroying an airplane midair were recovered in a tense operation from a family travelling from London to Boston.

A source at Heathrow airport recounted the drama. The five-member family — two adults and three children — boarded American Airlines Flight 109 for Boston. They checked in at the last moment, inviting only a perfunctory check of the children’s hand-baggage.

After the aircraft took off the check-in computer at the airport flashed a warning that a person under observation had boarded the flight. Airline staff informed immigration and security officials. A background check revealed that the male adult member of the family was on a suspect list prepared by Scotland Yard after the 7/7 terror attacks in London.

By the time the pilot was alerted to the danger, the flight had been airborne for an hour. UK authorities and the pilot began deliberating on the possibility of checking the suspect’s luggage. But the plan was abandoned because it could have triggered a violent response from the suspect and caused panic on board.

more...

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1046646
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 04:25 PM
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5. "Masked explosives"?
So basically it's another story with a whole lot of smoke and no real fire.

One assumes that the 'masked' part is to qualify the explosives or a combination of liquids that the authorities think can be mixed together to make a bomb. Moreover, there is a whole bunch of stories FROM August 8th that make absolutely NO mention of explosives...

In fact, one would think this was just bogus propaganda from an obscure news service.

Originally reported as:


Boston-bound plane returns to London

A Boston-bound Boeing 777 was ordered back to London's Heathrow Airport yesterday over security fears after a passenger's name appeared on a federal no-fly list, government and airline officials said.

....

Four passengers, a male suspect and his mother and two sisters, were questioned by US and British security officials, who met the flight at the gate and escorted the group from the plane.

....

After arriving last night at Logan International Airport, passenger Michelle Walker-Adams told reporters that airplane personnel did not tell them what was going on.

The pilot said they were turning around `' `because there's a problem in Boston,' " she said. ``You had to be accompanied to the bathroom, and so when I asked the flight attendant . . . `What's really going on?' he said, `Oh, it's just because a lot of times, people get anxious when planes get turned around.' They had an answer for everything, so they kept us really, really calm."

Passengers were told to remain seated while officers boarded, she said. ``They pointed to this gentleman, and they escorted him off. There were three women with him. They escorted them off. It was very quiet, very peaceful."

Boston Globe


So now the NEW story adds explosives, three children and implies the explosives might have been on the children's bag?

Yeah...right...I just might hit that Alert button on this one...
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IntiRaymi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 03:41 PM
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2. There are words in spanish to describe this...
'Azuzando a la gente'
They are riling the people. Politics of division, since there is a strong political presence in the Boston area of conservatives.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 04:00 PM
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4. because Mohammed Atta went to Boston probably
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 04:58 PM
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6. article today says it is not clear where they were going to attack???
snip...

But it is not clear when the attack was to take place. None of the alleged plotters had yet bought airline tickets, according to anti-terrorist sources.

more...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1843057,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=11

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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 09:09 PM
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10. fake stuff
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gmaki Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 05:05 PM
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7. The article says they were in the "pre-planning stages"
Which seems directly at odds with so called "Do you attacks now" message.

Major cracks are beginning to appear.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 05:12 PM
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8. I agree. Too many liars always screw the message up!
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 05:34 PM
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9. "IT'S A GO!.....on the dry run, that is"
Doh!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:51 AM
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12. that's why they dragged Osama out of the box last month
so it would seem more real. Like "I'm STILL HERE, fear me!!!"
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:49 AM
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11. I knew this story would fall apart before too long.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:54 AM
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13. "PRE-planning stage"? So they admit these guys weren't PLANNING yet.
They had no airplane tickets, no explosives, and weren't
actually quite exactly really PLANNING anything...

But hey, they MIGHT have planned something at any moment, right?

MEDALS FOR EVERYONE!!!!
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:56 AM
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14. Whenever the Repugs get involved all the facts become twisted
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 06:57 AM by w4rma
as they work to twist the story to try to trick Americans into giving them more power.
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