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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:45 PM
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French changes to resolution rankle U.S.
French changes to resolution rankle U.S.

By EDITH M. LEDERER, Associated Press Writer Wed Aug 9, 11:20 AM ET

UNITED NATIONS - The United States and France appeared at odds Wednesday over Arab demands to change a U.N. resolution they are co-sponsoring to call for a complete halt in Israeli-Hezbollah hostilities and withdrawal of Israeli forces, diplomats said.


France proposed new language on a total cease-fire and Israeli pullout, but the Americans rejected it out of concern that without a robust international force, a vacuum would be created in southern Lebanon, a Hezbollah stronghold, the diplomats said.

While both countries welcomed Lebanon's announcement Monday that it will deploy 15,000 soldiers to the south when Israel withdraws, the U.S. does not believe this force and U.N. peacekeepers can prevent a vacuum without the international force, the diplomats said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the negotiations are private.

U.S. and French diplomats had been hoping for a vote on the draft early this week. But the differences between the co-sponsors meant that a Security Council vote on the resolution to try to end the fighting would be delayed at least until Thursday.........

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/mideast_fighting_un;_ylt=AmBxDT.FdbqqAS40L84ryFms0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:47 PM
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1. I bet........
.....Bush, Bolton and Co. must be foaming at the mouth
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:54 PM
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3. This isn't what they wanted to be dealing with this week.
This was slated to be the week for twisting arms to get a consensus for Iran sanctions through the Security Council before for the next vote at the end of the month. That's now totally off the table for the near future.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:51 PM
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2. Them Frenchmen are still hating freedom?
Figures.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 03:59 PM
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4. Vive Le France!
Vacuum my foot! Bring on the cease-fire!
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:01 PM
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5. "Their leaders talked and talked and talked..."
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 04:02 PM by Barrett808
To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time,
when the world was powered by the black fuel,
and the deserts sprouted great cities of pipe and steel.

Gone now, swept away.
For reasons long forgotten, two mighty warrior tribes went to war,
and touched off a blaze which engulfed them all.

Without fuel they were nothing. They'd built a house of straw.
The thundering machines sputtered and stopped.
Their leaders talked and talked and talked,
but nothing could stem the avalanche.

Their world crumbled. The cities exploded.
A whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear.
Men began to feed on men.

Road Warrior, 1981
http://imdb.com/title/tt0082694/quotes



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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 04:12 PM
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6. Chirac: the :most immoral" responce:
"French President Jacques Chirac appealed to the United States to speed up its response to Arab nations' demands for changes to the resolution, saying that giving up the push for an immediate cease-fire would be the "most immoral" response.

Chirac, who interrupted his vacation in southern France to attend an urgent meeting on Lebanon with three Cabinet ministers, appeared increasingly frustrated with the U.S. position — and even suggested France could present a new version of a draft resolution to the Security Council on its own.

If France and the United States do not reach agreement, he said, "we will have a debate in the Security Council and each will affirm clearly its position, naturally including France, through its own resolution."

France's U.N. Ambassador Jean-Marc de La Sabliere said he still expects a vote this week."

Chirac goes to the heart of the matter by addressing the immorality of the delays.

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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:48 AM
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7. Kick.
:kick:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:48 AM
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8. Clashes at UN as talks fail to break resolution deadlock
FRANCE and the United States clashed yesterday over a UN resolution calling for a truce in the Middle East, even as Israel began its push deeper into Lebanon.

President Chirac of France threatened that Paris would introduce its own proposal to the Security Council if the deadlock in talks with Washington was not broken.

“It does seem that there is an American reservation about adopting this draft,” M Chirac said after a meeting with members of his Cabinet in the south of France. “I can’t imagine that there would be no solution because that would mean . . . the most immoral result, that we accept the current situation and that we abandon an immediate ceasefire. I can’t imagine that of the Americans or anyone else.

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The deadlock caused the postponement of a meeting of foreign ministers in New York that Condoleezza Rice, the US Secretary of State, had tentatively scheduled for last night, before a UN vote. But John Bolton, the US Ambassador to the UN, said that he was still hoping for a vote this week. “We still would like to try to do that this week. We are in the process of non-stop meetings to do that,” he said.

TimesOnLine
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:48 AM
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9. Oh, Jacques. I can imagine that "the Americans" would work for...
...the most immoral result. These are neocons you're dealing with. Their credo is the end justifies ANY means.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:48 AM
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10. more deaths
every second they delay. :argh:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:48 AM
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11. Yeah. Dolton seems to be getting stuffed, too.
Essentially nobody is buying his bullshit. But you are right, meanwhile people die.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:48 AM
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12. I am praying the French and Arab Alliance prevail
I think they should be trying to bring the Brits into the fold then sit on fuckface dolton.

Eeeew, that brought some bad visuals. :(

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:48 AM
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13. Take a look at the Hillary in the "Sex Museum" thread
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 07:44 PM by bemildred
if you want a bad visual. Oooooooog. Was that really necessary?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:48 AM
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15. well I missed that one!
thank god!

:hi:
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 12:48 AM
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14. God please bring some sanity to all
There just so much that can go on
Before people take matters into their own hand
Before the MIddle East roar up in Flame
Before the ARABS countries the League to 22 nations comes together and declare war on Isreal.
History shows it has happen before
History shows a single bullet start World War 1

Does not 3 unjust war.... Afghanistan over OBL who now even FBI say no proof of guilt.
.... Iraq which even now maybe 50% American still believe got WMD
.... Now Lebanon.

US veto of this resolution will be like putting all US troops in Iraq on death row.
US veto of this resolution means the talk end and Arab countries will force the whole world hand on this issue by declaring war on Isreal.
US do not need Congress or Senate anymore. It will be too late. Your troops in Iraq gurantee your involvement in the conflict. and when US get involve others take side.

This world being grip by the madness of bush
All world leaders know it.
Which side they take
Path to future peace or perpetual war.
US under bush has become path to perpetual war.
Blair is quite. IF blow blair can pull troops out of Iraq
Blair will spin it as bush fault if Resolution get veto by bush

DEAR mr President
ARE YOU A LONELY BOY ..... PINK words somehow make sense.

We now stand on the brink of madness
And bush has finger on red button
STOP THE MADNESS

War with 22 league Arab countries will be the doom of
US/Isreal
Pull back before too late
Your nuke are like so much peashooters
Big BOOM NICE MUSHROOM CLOUDS MANY DEAD
But it will not stop the 22 contries from tearing you to pieces
It will only invite it all the countries that see that maybe better world be rid of mad people.

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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 01:45 AM
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16. Not that I am a believer of Nostrasdamus (sp) predictions...
But, didn't he predict a great war, US v Russia and Middle East countries?
Or something that could be interpreted as such?

Was watching Discovery Channel.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-10-06 09:22 AM
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17. K&R
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