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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:31 PM
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Evolution reversed in mice
7 August 2006

US researchers have taken a mouse back in time some 500 million years by reversing the process of evolution.

By engineering its genetic blueprint, they have rebuilt a gene that was present in primitive animals.

The ancient gene later mutated and split, giving rise to a pair of genes that play a key role in brain development in modern mammals.

The scientists say the experiments shed light on how evolution works and could lead to new gene therapy techniques.

"We are first to reconstruct an ancient gene," said co-researcher Petr Tvrdik of the University of Utah. "We have proven that from two specialised modern genes, we can reconstruct the ancient gene they split off from.

"It illuminates the mechanisms and processes that evolution uses, and tells us more about how Mother Nature engineers life."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5245950.stm

Ah, just what humanity needs, devolving mice.

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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:35 PM
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1. we are not mice
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:37 PM
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3. Maybe not, but we're, like, 92% banana, aren't we?
I don't think there's that much difference between us and mice, genetically speaking.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:41 PM
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7. Are you saying our kids look like bananas?
ARe you saying that the collective humanity today is less intelligent
than a cluster of fruits?

Ok you're right. . . agreed! :-)
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:13 AM
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36. Actually we share about 50% of our DNA with Bananas...
And most likely about 90% or more of our DNA with other Mammals, Chimps being our closest relatives.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:51 AM
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37. Works for me. I always knew there was a REASON for this...
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 11:54 AM
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38. only if we're potted
lol Seriously, IIRC there are only about 19 gene differences between us and cockroaches too.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:38 PM
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4. Dubya is a big rat
Is that why he's more stupid than his old man? I mean evolution is supposed to work forwards :)
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:49 PM
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10. I was looking for, "We are Devo."
Come on, now, pay attention!
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:53 PM
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13. Okay let me take a hit of coca -cola.
Ah caffine, that's much better. I am awake now.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:54 PM
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22. Bush is human evolution in reverse
I thought the scientists would have come up with a big prehistoric rat, as big as a large dog.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:36 PM
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2. Say, can you guys do the same thing to the Republican Party?
Help a brother out. ;)
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:39 PM
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5. They seem to be doing that pretty adeptly without any help ;) /nt
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:41 PM
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6. At last a biology conservatives can embrace.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:43 PM
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8. forget 500 my, i'll settle for 30 yrs
share this tech w. the plastic surgeons and they'll make their fortune
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:44 PM
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9. So, how many sci-fi/horror films start with this premise.....
This seems to be a "good" idea......

:nuke:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:31 PM
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15. 'Cause sci-fi and horror films are highly indicative of reality... (n/t)
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:44 PM
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20. Nyuh huh...
And The Siege was just a movie that just coincidentally happened to come true. (in premise, not in specific events)

Just because something is fiction does not make it an impossible scenario....

I just think that screwing around with genetics too fast will cause bad problems down the line....
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:49 PM
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11. Many who deny evolution will benefit from the medical advances...
...that result from this research. And they'll continue to deny evolution. :eyes:
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:50 PM
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12. The evolved and devolved lab mice
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:40 PM
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18. does this mean they will lay little eggs now? n/t
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:50 PM
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21. LOL * is Pinky.
Who's the Brain?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 03:33 AM
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28. Either Cheney or Rove. (nt)
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:29 PM
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14. That's nothing, republicans have reversed human evolution ...
...by 1 million years
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:32 PM
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16. They've done it in people too.


It's a little known fact that Dubya is the product of a highly successful genetic experiment.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:42 PM
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19. LOL
You owe me a keyboard.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:46 AM
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27. Possibly the oddest photo of a President in the world!
I wonder what he was thinking.... Oh, right! Never mind.
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mdelaguna2000 Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 05:51 AM
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30. Hahahahahaha
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:34 PM
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17. The Repugs
Are taking women's rights back 100 years. Is that similar?
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:59 PM
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23. That experiment is actually pretty cool.
One more nail in the coffin for creation 'science'.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:20 PM
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24. Clearly, Satan was in the lab manipulating results
And/or God was testing our faith.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 11:56 PM
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26. Oh yes, I forgot the whacko right "God's testing us" mantra.
Thanks for reminding me!

:)
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:24 PM
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25. So they made it watch the 700 Club and listen to Rush, eh?
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 04:48 AM
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29. That's great
NOW we can build a WORSE mousetrap..

This is utterly ridiculous and impossible, everyone knows the earth is only 6000 years old, so if they took a mouse back 500 million years then that mouse would... have ..to be...well..

GOD.

Holy shit, and I just set out mousetraps all over the house.. time to disarm them before the GODMOUSE gets angry..

Maybe "Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy" was right, this would seem to prove it, that the universe was nothing more than one big computer/illusion experiment designed by MICE to realize the Meaning of Life itself..

Which of course is 42.

SPOILER ALERT. :)
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 06:34 AM
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31. they created republicans ?
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 06:45 AM
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32. Poor mouse
Nobody ever asks them if they want to be poked and prodded...or genetically altered. But hey, all in the name of science.
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 07:32 AM
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33. So...can we finally put it to rest?
Here is the proof that evolution is not just a theory.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 07:44 AM
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35. That would be nice
but there are far too many people that will cling to illogical fantasy even when the facts are easily understood.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 07:34 AM
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34. Utah REALLY wants to go back to the 'good ole days'. . . n/t
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