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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:35 AM
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Fox, but not CNN, was at Bush's Thanksgiving surprise
http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/cnn/1103/28cnn.html

When President Bush landed in Iraq for Thanksgiving dinner, Fox News was there, but CNN was not.

<snip>

Kathryn Kross, CNN's Washington bureau chief, told the Post that a two-person crew from her network was dismissed from the White House pool Wednesday, with the understanding that no further news would be made.

"We're all for the president boosting the troops however the White House feels is appropriate," she said, according to the newspaper. "But apparently the White House put together its own group of people to accompany the president on this trip, and we're real interested to learn their reasons for doing that."

(very short blurb)

When will the rest of this country wake up and realize that FAUX is just a propaganda wing of the BFEE?
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:36 AM
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1. Yeah, well...
Let's see if CNN has the huevos to actually do anything about it. They do own a news network, right?
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:38 AM
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2. Faux is the ultimate Repub dream
The Propaganda Ministry- Privatized!
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:44 AM
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4. Their real name...
...19th CENTURY FUCKS NEWS...
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:50 PM
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13. more regarding FAUX
http://media.guardian.co.uk/rupertmurdoch/story/0,11136,847290,00.html

There is a commercial strategy behind Fox's insistence on its objectivity - but there also seems to be an element of Ailes's personal psychodrama in his response to the Woodward charge. A former adviser to Nixon, Reagan and the current president's father, Ailes is profoundly irritated by accusations of enduring sympathies for the Republicans, and once reportedly urged a newspaper interviewer not to dwell on his earlier career because it was "irrelevant". He does not, for example, take kindly to implications of bias on Election Night 2000, when Fox hired John Ellis, who happens to be the president's cousin, to analyse the returns. (Fox was the first channel to declare a Bush victory that night.)
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:44 AM
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3. You'd think...
that after a stunt like this, they might wake up and start reporting real news. They have been shameless, kissing Chimpy's ass, and their reward has been a slap in the face and an insult.

Since groveling doesn't work, they just might want to try a different approach, like being impartial.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:47 AM
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5. I was wondering who the hand-picked
news hounds were. Thanks. Figures.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:48 AM
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6. I still doubt that Bu$h was in Iraq.
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 11:49 AM by brainshrub
I wish I was a freelance investigative journalist with the free time & money to see if Bu$h really was in Iraq.

I'm suspicious b/c I heard that Bush was in Nevada on Tuesday/Wednesday... Doesn't Nevada look a lot like Iraq? (This wasn't my idea, but it's something worth considering.) :tinfoilhat:
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:55 AM
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8. Brainshrub
on one of the other boards, there was a Du poster who recognized her nephew in one of the pictures. Definately Iraq
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:09 PM
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10. I love DU!
Thanks for clearing this up!
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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 03:22 PM
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22. Thank You! My Dad use to work for the Sun Times
When is was a democratic paper and you should hear the stories that he was told about fake backgrounds and madeup stories.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:52 AM
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7. Bush worked the front pages big time
Hubby who works in the supermarket tells me now, that every single newspaper on the rack today has the picture of Bush in his, whatever the hell that thing is he is wearing, laughing it up with the adoring troops, the turkey, the dinner, Bush with his arm around a female troop etc. Everything is just fine in Iraq cause we are gettin the terraists and he is a great big hero arriving in a war zone just to have dinner with the adoring, cheering troops. I must agree with several Du'ers on this board who think it a stroke of genius, because it is and the proof is that it is getting results on the front page of every newspaper.

He's got the bully pulpit and has not changed a bit since he began moving his stuff into the white house (transition teams) before anything was fully decided. That is his arrogant, despicable modus operendi, and he has no incentive to change it one bit--we will see it continue--possibly for four more years--why? He gets away with it, plain and simple. He has no shame and cannot be shamed as he trots around the globe, hurting and killing people at will.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:00 PM
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9. the pResident's entire pResidency has been one big photo op....
...why should anyone expect anything different now?

And of course faux was there, puuulleeeeze! gee-dubya doesn't fart without the ministry of propaganda there to capture the moment.

ailes and rove--now there's a pair--both graduates of the lee atwater school of shameless promotion and dirty tricks. at least brother lee tried to right his karma with his deathbed confessions. he knew he was dancing with the devil and didn't cotton to eternal damnation. rove and ailes don't give a shit. hell, satan ain't got nothing on these boys.
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:10 PM
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11. I don't get it
I first heard the "news" on CNN and the anchor (a guy whose name escapes me) was positiviely wetting himself, he was so excited about the brave man and his dangerous and daring mission to the Bagdad airport.

There certainly no grudges in sight. I had to turn it off, it was so treacly.

s_m
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:10 PM
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12. Figures...
:eyes:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:54 PM
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14. Maybe Rove is displeased with CNN International,
which does not promote Bush 24/7, and continues to give air time to a journalist worthy of the name, Christiane Amanpour. Or maybe they just want to give Fox another opportunity to humiliate CNN. I, too, wish CNN domestic would grow a spine, and start practicing some independent journalism --
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 03:55 PM
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25. What CNN (and everybody else, for that matter) is afraid of is...
that they will be persona non grata in the White House Press room. The credentials are given out by the White House. If they dont like what you report, they can pull your credential and no news organization wants that. Thats why Amy Goodman (www.Democracynow.org) is never in on a White House Press briefing.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 07:14 PM
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28. Best response
Dig up everything about Bush and report report report! Stay negative and ridicule him.

If they aren't going to include him in the press corps then they have nothing to lose.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:25 AM
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29. Very true. Thats pretty much what Democracy now does
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:59 PM
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15. There's no waking up from a stupor this deep.
Though I'm always on the lookout for evidence to the contrary.
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 01:15 PM
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16. ShitFuckingHowdy Dude
The evidence is NOT there. I am here in the Middle East and I don't think I will ever come back to Merika. Moving from Oman to UAE soon.

This place is fucking great. Sorry the so very very democratic USA is just a fucking trash dump.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 02:13 PM
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19. Good to hear from you Mary
Im a way you are lucky.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 01:18 PM
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17. I thought it was very revealing ...
.... how in that Drudge article posted on other threads, the reporters who'd been asked along on the little adventure were positively gleeful at being singled out for "a road trip with the Prez". I bet this is how the Shrub acted when he was frat-house president -- rewarding his supporters with special attention and encouraging competition to be picked next time.

All the while, despising them for being so weak and craven! There was a wonderful example of this in Pelosi's film. She asked him an inconvenient question and all the other reporters avoided her because they didn't want to lose favor with Bush.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 01:35 PM
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18. What?? The Cable Neocon Network (CNN) is asking questions??
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Jane Eyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 02:46 PM
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20. That explains it!
I noticed yesterday that the coverage from CNN was noticably more critical of the visit than they usually are of anything that Bush does, and of course Faux News was orgasmic over the whole Bush in Baghdad thing.

CNN's reporter noted that both LBJ and Nixon made similar visits to Vietnam and look what happened then. They have also slammed the secrecy issue. Just now, they were talking about how Bush's shipside visit last spring seemed like a good idea at the time but if the mission in Iraq was really accomplished, then why didn't Bush fly in on a Delta airliner?

The CNN coverage was so critical yesterday that I suspected that they were left out of the loop. This confirms my suspicions.
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 03:12 PM
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21. CNN have a choice
either they settle for being the 2nd best republican butt kissing news network, which is all they will ever be because Fox News is the Republicans creature, it's an intergal part of their team, and exactly this will happen again and again.

Or CNN decide to be a news network again and let the chips fall where they may. More than likely it will cost them market share in the short term but that may not happen long term.

Also if they decide to be the 2nd best republican news channel, then that leaves a gap in the market place for a normal news channel so CNN could find themselves be being demoted yet again into 3rd place.

It's their choice are they ambitious, or are they happy to settle for the easy life of an also ran.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 03:29 PM
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23. there's a lesson 2 B learned
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 03:34 PM by rozf
here. All CNN has 2 do is look 2 the Democratic Party. U can't beat them @ their game. The DNC moved right 'n lost everything, including their integrity. If CNN tries 2 B Fux light, they will lose even more viewers, cuz they can't B Fux. The DNC cannot B the radical right. Until we start fight 4 the left and middle, these assh*les will keep dragging us over that cliff on the right.

add: During Clinton's 8 years did U ever, 4 even one second, ever see a radical right rethug take one step 2 the left???? Ever??? Hell no, they dug their heels in and screamed even louder. There is a lesson here.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 03:52 PM
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24. This is what so many enablers forget - TraitorCo is like an abusive SO.
Sure, the Bushies will treat their favored like royalty - until they get tired of them, or angry with them.

Then the abuse starts. Eventually, TraitorCo will cast off the old favorite for a new one. Once the old favorite is no longer useful, it's fair game to shun or destroy.

The hangers-on get so wrapped up in appeasement that they fail to realize that they are not special to these people. They are just another pawn - and pawns get sacrificed quite often.

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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 04:25 PM
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26. Will CNN grow a pair and stop playing cheerleader for Clueless Son?
I doubt it...
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 04:43 PM
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27. Well, CNN will just have to blow harder, won't it?
More slavish PR. More adulation. More goosestepping. That's the key!

Allow me to cast it in language that even full-time appeasers like bureau chief Kathryn Kross can understand: Suck more Bush nut, and the cream will flow your way.
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