Medic Discovered Body

[Judi Lynn]

Medic Discovered Body
Updated: 16:36, Sunday August 06, 2006

An Iraqi army medic has told a US military hearing he was sick for weeks after finding the body of a 14-year-old girl allegedly raped and murdered by American soldiers in Iraq.

The medic gave his testimony on the opening day of the hearing to determine whether there is enough evidence for a court martial.

Four US soldiers are facing trial for the rape-slaying of Abeer Qassim al-Janabi and the killing of her parents and sister.

It is among the worst in a series of cases of alleged abuse of Iraqis by American soldiers.

The medic, whose name was withheld for security reasons, told the hearing that he was the first responder to enter the house.
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-13536363,00.html?f=rss

[izzie]

1. Bad story and from what I read they mother was worried about her

It is an odd thing but when I was in Saudi I can not recall how many Western men found these women all covered up as being very sexy. They often talked about it. They all were very good looking people I would say. I know looks have nothing to do with rape but I am willing to bet that the girl came to being seen by her looks.

[pooja]

2. a little more is a little less...leave something for the imagination

and it has more appeal... i suppose all covered adds an unatainable air... which some men, who are not very well educated and can't stand women with power, must subdue them.

[izzie]

3. I think you are right

Am. and the Brits did not talk about these people in a very good way. Germ.and Can. did. My husband got along with these people so well other Western people would ask if we would take them when we went to their homes. We hardly could do that. By the way the women smell very nice and so do the men. They use a lot of stuff like that. Also you can hear the women as they wear things like bangles so it is interesting. I frankly loved the people and used to just walk around and have coffee with them. Sort of fun to sit with a man who has a goat herd out side his door and try to talk to each other when one hardly knows a word each is saying. They were always friendly. The women spend a lot of time hugging you.

[Judi Lynn]

4. Thanks for the quick view. Very refreshing, and human. n/t

[yardwork]

13. People in the East were washing themselves daily and using perfume

when Europeans were living in hovels, afraid to wash, and wearing filthy wool clothes and animal skins.

In the United States we like to think that "Western Civilization" is the greatest thing that ever happened to the Earth, but the truth is that many Eastern cultures were ahead of the West by thousands of years. The East invented mathematics, silk clothing, perfume, spiced food, paper, fireworks, hot baths, sherbet, and many other things that we associate with "the good life." Judaism, Christianity, and Islam were all born in the East, as were Hindi, Buddhism, Confucianism, and others.

To this day, cleanliness and beauty is an essential part of most Eastern cultures. Even in desert climates where water is scarce, people bathe everyday and wear clean clothes.

In many ways, Westerners were and are the "barbarians."

[Zhade]

18. Thanks for the glimpse of beautiful people (namely, humans)!

Very nice to read something so endearing during these times.

[izzie]

24. I will tell you this

I sat down and cried when I found out one man had married off his girl (so young that she had no brest) to a man 35, vs. another man who was educating his girls and his brother's children (and the girls) plus he was going to night school. So things are moving in a slow pace forward. My great grand mother was the first women to get out of her high school in a city in Mass( she was born in 1851) and my best friend was the first women in an all boys school in NYC. We are not so modern as one thinks any place in this country. I swear Bush has put the Middle East back 20 years as now we have all the zealots creeping out from under the rocks. These countries must do it at their own pace. If their own rulers forced it on them it would be another story. In Saudi one leader made the bedouin stay in one place as he wanted them to move into society of a modern country. They have generally done that.

[Judi Lynn]

5. No new news in this article but we FINALLY see a truthful headline!

Mon. August 07, 2006

US military begins hearing into rape-slaying of Iraqi girl
Ap, Baghdad

A US military court began a hearing yesterday to determine if five American soldiers should be tried in the alleged rape-slaying of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl.

Three of the girl's relatives also were killed in the town of Mahmoudiya on March 12, which is among the worst incidents in a series of cases alleging US troops killed or abused Iraqi civilians.

The soldiers Sgt. Paul E. Cortez, Spc. James P. Barker, Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman and Pfc. Bryan L. Howard are charged with conspiring to rape the girl along with former Pfc. Steven D. Green, who was arrested in North Carolina in June.

A fifth soldier from the same unit, Sgt. Anthony W. Yribe, is charged with failing to report the attack but is not alleged to have been a direct participant.
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http://www.thedailystar.net/2006/08/07/d608071314121.htm

[leftchick]

6. another link

Witness describes scene of horror in Iraq rape case
Sun Aug 6, 2006 5:39 PM BST

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-08-06T163937Z_01_L03398682_RTRUKOC_0_UK-IRAQ-MAHMUDIYA.xml


Reuters) - An Iraqi army medic described a scene of horror to a U.S. military hearing on Sunday that will decide if four U.S. soldiers are to be court-martialled for the murder and rape of an Iraqi girl and the killing of her family.

The medic, who was not named, said that when he entered the house in Mahmudiya in March, he found 14-year-old Abeer Qasim Hamza al-Janabi naked with her legs spread and burnt from the waist up, with a single bullet wound beneath her left eye.

He also told the hearings he had found her six-year-old sister in an adjacent room with the back of her head blown out, and the bodies of both parents riddled with bullets.

The Mahmudiya case, the fifth involving serious crimes being investigated by the U.S. military in Iraq, has outraged Iraqis and led Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to call for a review of foreign troops' immunity from Iraqi prosecution.


The court heard testimony from three Iraqi witnesses on Sunday, the first day of proceedings. But the media covering the event were only allowed to record the comments of the medic, who said he was ill for weeks after witnessing the crime scene.

[Judi Lynn]

9. This testimpny is, itself, almost unbearable.

From your article:

The court heard testimony from three Iraqi witnesses on Sunday, the first day of proceedings. But the media covering the event were only allowed to record the comments of the medic, who said he was ill for weeks after witnessing the crime scene.
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The medic told the hearing that because there was no space in the hospital morgue, the bodies of Abeer, her father, mother and sister were left in an air-conditioned ambulance overnight and buried the next day.
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Prosecutors say a second soldier also raped Abeer. The New York Times reported on Saturday that it now appeared at least three soldiers raped her, according to a legal memo filed by a military magistrate.
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I think these people should be questioned publicly. They should have to admit publicly to what they have done, and be seen by their fellow human beings explaining how they spent their time that day, and how on earth they could bring themselves to do these vicious, purely EVIL multiple murders.

Don't people like this know how ugly they are doing these things? How far away from forgiveness they put themselves?

And yet we hear freepers defend them. Michael Savage is furious, I've heard, that they are being tried.

[Zhade]

19. I wish I believed in the death penalty right about now.

As it is - straight to solitary confinement, for life, no contact with the outside world, no possibility of parole, no amenities, nothing.

These... people... deserve nothing less. They have chosen to place themselves outside humanity, and so do not deserve contact with human society.

[saigon68]

25. THEY ARE THUGS AND HOODLUMS THEY WILL GET 3 MONTHS TOPS

[lumpy]

7. Human animals like those four

would torture, rape and kill any female, human or beast for the thrill of it, because they are the lowest form of human life.

[uppityperson]

8. k&r for Abeer, Hadeel, Fakhriya and Qassim

and for those who are testifying

[norml]

10. Medic testifies at U.S. troops' hearing

Medic testifies at U.S. troops' hearing

By RYAN LENZ, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 45 minutes ago


BAGHDAD, Iraq - An Iraqi army medic described for a U.S. military hearing Sunday the horrific scene that confronted him when he found the naked and burned body of a 14-year-old girl allegedly raped and murdered by American soldiers south of Baghdad

The medic testified on the opening day of a hearing to determine whether five U.S. soldiers must stand trial in the March 12 rape-slaying of Abeer Qassim al-Janabi and the killing of her parents and sister in the town of Mahmoudiya.

It is among the worst in a series of cases of alleged killings of civilians and other abuses by U.S. soldiers that have tarnished the American military.

The medic, whose name was withheld for security reasons, testified he was the first responder to enter the house and found the girl sprawled naked in the house, her torso and head burned by flames. She had a single bullet wound under her left eye, he said.

He said he found Abeer's 5-year-old sister, Hadeel, in an adjacent room dead from a bullet wound in the head. The children's father, Qassim, and mother, Fikhriya, suffered similar deaths, he said. The mother's abdomen and chest were riddled with bullets, he added.


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060806/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_rape_slaying

[Amonester]

11. K

Horrible.

[VegasWolf]

12. 14 years old. The FReakers will probably claim "fog of war". Fuck them. nt

[MetaTrope]

14. Oh, it's the stress of combat, don't you know...

Our troops were just blowing off a little steam. Just wait until they come home, then they'll be OK again.

[Name removed]

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[Judi Lynn]

16. Iraqi doctor testifies in rape trial

Iraqi doctor testifies in rape trial

Mon, 07 Aug 2006
An Iraqi army doctor told on Sunday of his horror at coming upon a dead teenager "naked with her legs spread" after the alleged murder of her family by a group of US soldiers.

Testifying on the first day of a US military hearing to decide whether there is enough evidence to court martial four of the soldiers, the doctor described how he was called to the 14-year-old's home in Mahmudiyah, south of Baghdad.

It has been alleged that on March 12, US soldiers left their post and headed to the nearby home of an Iraqi family. The girl was allegedly raped and killed, along with her parents and sister, and the house set on fire.

The doctor said the girl's upper torso and her head were burned and she had a single bullet wound under her left eye. Her clothes were torn and she was found lying on her back.

Her five-year-old sister was found in an adjacent room. "She had been hit in the head, it looked like a bullet would. It looked like it entered the front of her face" and went out the back of her head, the medic said.

The girls' mother and father had also been shot dead: "The brain was on the floor and parts of the head were all over the place."

"I was feeling very bad. I was sick for almost two weeks," the doctor said.
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http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/896494.htm

[Judi Lynn]

17. Military court told soldiers took turns to rape

Military court told soldiers took turns to rape

24 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A U.S. military court heard graphic testimony on Monday on how U.S. soldiers took turns holding down and raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl before murdering her and her family.

The hearing into whether four U.S. soldiers should be court- martialled heard a special agent describe details of what took place in Mahmudiya based on an interview he conducted with Specialist James Barker, one of the accused.

The case, the fifth involving serious crimes being investigated by the U.S. military in Iraq, has outraged Iraqis and led Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to call for a review of foreign troops' immunity from Iraqi prosecution.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060807/ts_nm/iraq_mahmudiya_dc

[Fleshdancer]

20. Thumbs up to the medic for speaking up

I would be sick for a long time too if I discovered something like this.

[cali]

21. Why wouldn't he speak up?

As the article notes, he's an Iraqi.

[Fleshdancer]

23. fear?

Iraqi or not, I'm glad he spoke up.

[Judi Lynn]

22. US court told soldiers took turns to rape (longer version of the article)

US court told soldiers took turns to rape

August 07 2006 at 12:50PM

Baghdad - A US military court heard graphic testimony on Monday on how US soldiers took turns to hold down and rape a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and murdered her and her family.

At the hearing into whether four US soldiers should be court-martialled, a special agent described what took place in Mahmudiya based on an interview he conducted with Specialist James Barker, one of the accused.

The case, the fifth involving serious crimes being investigated by the US military in Iraq, has outraged Iraqis and led Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to call for a review of foreign troops' immunity from prosecution under Iraqi law.

Special Agent Benjamin Bierce recalled how Barker described to him how he went into the living room of a house and held the hands of the teenage girl while Sergeant Paul Cortez either raped her or attempted to rape her.
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http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=qw1154947501988B262

[colorado_ufo]

26. So these war heroes needed help

in subduing a 14 year old girl? How great to see the buddy system in action! (sarcasm off)

Perhaps, if found guilty here, they should be extraordinarily rendered back to Iraq, where the crimes occurred. I'm sure the Iraqis would offer them a speedy trial.

[saigon68]

27. They are getting more than the POWs at Guantanamo Bay

God help the rustics when they fall into the hands of the other side.

Like Rumbdum whining for the Geneva convention when they snatched Lynch.

He is an ass clown.