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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:42 PM Original message |
Editor&Publisher: Reporters Shut Out Of Cuba At Key Moment |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Cuba knows the Western media is owned by corporate interests |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. As opposed to the Cuban media. |
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jpkenny (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
72. Doesn't Cuba have a right to self-defense? They use the media instead |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
85. But if the White House shunned the same media |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:14 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. The White House has beaten the media into submission. |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. Another report... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. They don't get any mileage by yammering about this requirement |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I've noticed no change in E&P since the acquisition, thank goodness... |
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MrPrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Thank you... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Isn't the Miami Herald's motto |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
88. The Miami Herald was the first American newspaper to show how |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. You're reading the version of the paper which evolved AFTER |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. They are entering Cuba under false pretenses |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. You're ALWAYS supposed to indicate your profession. |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. One would have to assume they are resorting to lying because they |
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NewSpectrum (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 08:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. They half to lie to get in........ |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 11:08 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Thank you for posting that Vaclev Havel piece! nt |
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NewSpectrum (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. No problem, |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I guess that Vaclav Havel should be supporting Al Queda cells in the US.. |
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NewSpectrum (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. There is a big difference between terrorists...... |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Aiding and abetting terrorists is aiding and abetting terrorists |
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NewSpectrum (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Convenient, how you make no mention of the abuses of the Castro regime |
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NewSpectrum (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Another article on Cuba's bogus political process |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Links please. |
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NewSpectrum (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:00 AM Response to Reply #50 |
66. There is more than one group working..... |
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NewSpectrum (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:02 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. A very small snapshot of the tragic cases being documented: |
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NewSpectrum (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:06 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. The police state in Cuba that prevents people from getting to the truth |
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NewSpectrum (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 03:07 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. More on Cuba's Police State |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 04:24 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I think what may not be clear here is that hoping Junior |
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IntiRaymi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. Very true. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 07:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
52. The point is |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Reporters sending stories out "over the wires"? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Wire reports |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. it is rumored that Castro is dead..brother in hiding..they will probably |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Somebody is projecting their own fantasies here. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Thanks for posting! I was trying hard to remember if the poster |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. I wonder if the CPJ is also urging the Bush misadministration |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Eugene Robinson from the Wash Post was denied entry |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I can't muster much concern that the propaganda arm of the |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I wouldn't call Eugene Robinson a propaganda agent |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I wasn't slandering Mr. Robinson in particular, but the fishwap |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:16 PM Response to Reply #12 |
87. It makes them look as if they have something to hide |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:19 AM Response to Reply #87 |
94. Something to hide or something to protect? |
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Say_What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. Big f*ckn deal... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. That was me and I want credit for that. Because it's taken me |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 10:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. You should be given credit. So many Americans aren't haven't been |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. It's an entirely new world, when you begin to realize how |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Yes they are |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. Interesting. Thank you, Freddie. n/t |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. What gall: requiring proper visas! |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. What is going on in Cuba right now? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-04-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yes. And left to itself, Cuba will handle itself. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
93. June 8, 2006? |
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Chris W (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. Why don't they just follow established rules of Cuba to name the leader? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Are you saying Raul Castro is hiding because he is in danger? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
53. Has he been out & about |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. It's not his habit, actually. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
89. So what's he going to do, run the country from behind closed doors? |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. BTW, Fidel Castro is still the Head of State of Cuba - he ain't dead. |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:20 PM Response to Reply #43 |
90. But you would think Raul would come out and make a public statement |
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praeclarus (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #40 |
76. nah |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
22. Check out this OP in GD: Reporters W/O borders caught taking $ |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 09:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. This is exquisite. People who have been watching Cuba events for a while |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. You are welcome! n/t |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. can't doctors without borders sue them to stop using their name? n/t |
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Say_What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Reporters w/o Border in bed with the NED--surprise!!! NOT |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 05:00 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Blatant. They don't worry about being caught because they have |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. they're shut out because half of them are probably spy's for bush n/t |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Some may be CIA operatives |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-05-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. And it makes you wonder, how many of the same guys operated |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 05:36 AM Response to Reply #30 |
73. And, here's a GD thread that speaks to this question: |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
49. Man, these people are about as secretive as |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
51. Has either Castro or his brother |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Why would they? n/t |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 09:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Because it's VITAL |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. How many people who had stomach surgery a couple of days ago |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. link? |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Here |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 11:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. That's even worse |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
92. She hasn't spoken to him directly since 1964 |
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Akim (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Have Fidel and Juana Castro Reconciled? |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Nice of you to generalize |
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Akim (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. But Family Trumps Politics |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 08:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. So maybe not the best source then? nt |
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. It's been reported that she maintains contact with her sisters in Cuba |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Its quite clear. Not in limbo. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Please |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-06-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Key word - provisional. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-07-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #63 |
71. So what? |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 07:26 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. It's amazing the double standards here. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. I'm no Castro apologist but I do know the history of the United States |
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Akim (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 09:39 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. No, You Can't Bring Back Yellow Journalism. Yankees Stay Home! |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Nice switch of the topic, Akim. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Yeah, right. Cuba is totalitarian and you live in a representative |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Exactly, Akim. Your only response is, again, to change the topic. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I believe you are addressing the wrong poster. |
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Akim (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Who's the Real Totalitarian? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Because any questioning of Dear Leader must be attacked. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #51 |
79. Not yet |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. Really? |
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