Man Says Sex With Kids a Sacred Ritual

[DoYouEverWonder]

August 3, 2006, 5:00 AM EDT

CLEVELAND -- A man accused of sexually assaulting nine boys with physical or mental disabilities told a judge that having sex with children is a sacred ritual protected by civil rights laws.

Phillip Distasio, who said he is the leader of a church called Arcadian Fields Ministries, represented himself at his pretrial hearing Wednesday. He is charged with 74 counts including rape, pandering obscenity to minors and corrupting another with drugs.

"I'm a pedophile. I've been a pedophile for 20 years," he said in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court Wednesday. "The only reason I'm charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex. The role of my ministry is to get these cases out of the courtrooms."

Distasio said some of his congregants are among the victims in this case. Distacio, of Rocky River, is accused of molesting two disabled boys he tutored at his home and raping seven autistic boys at a Cleveland school for special-needs students where he was a teacher's aide. All but one of the victims were under 13.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-tutor-charges,0,3924665.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines

This guy admits to being a pedophile for 20 years and he's only being brought to justice now?

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. Check out their website

before they take it down.

This ministry is working hard to serve the community by supporting the following causes:

* Acquisition of a public property to serve as drop-in center:
o Gallery & Performance Space
o Merchant Headquarters & Assistance
o Art, Music & Cultural Education
o Day Care Center & Community School for children of At-Risk Parents (that is, parents that are At-Risk of losing their children to the Department of Social work due to sexual orientation, religious practice, relationship status and recreational activities)
o Drop-in Center for Teenagers with Substance Abuse Issues (so that we can support responsible party habits)
o Promotion of the Cuyahoga River Valley as a center of education and community spirit
o A Legal Defense Fund to reunite families, release political prisoners and assist victims of government abuse
o Travel Fund for field trips to places and events that might be of interest to our community
o Anything else which might be of interest, as we're still starting out and always open to ideas

http://members.cox.net/pateticus/showcase.html

[idgiehkt]

56. look at who their heroes are:

I bet these people wouldn't appreciate being affiliated with these folks...are any of them still alive?

It is the belief of this Minister that people like Quentin Crisp, Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, Jack Kerouac, Jerry Garcia, Dr. Tim Leary, Dr. Patch Adams and Bob Marley reveal to us how a Wandering Lifestyle combined with the Open House and regular doses of fun and sacrament is the secret to a healthier, happier lifestyle through the establishment of more creative and more challenging traditions.

These people have kept the Open House and the Wandering Lifestyle alive, through them and people like them we can follow these traditions all the way back through time and it is my aim to construct a living memorial of their achievements so we can preserve our lifestyle. A Temple of Self-Governance and Ministry of Art & Music.
http://members.cox.net/pateticus/sacrament.html
This whole page goes on about 'sacrament'...wonder what the hell that is.

[KamaAina]

63. That could well be why Hunter killed himself

then again, he did seem to write an awful lot about "fat young boys"... :evilgrin:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

84. As someone who has read a shitload of HST, what are you talking about?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

85. They're all dead.

All likely pissed off, if they were alive.

[Cybergata]

114. Unbelievable

Hunter Thompson's health had been failing for years before he committed suicide. He was in constant pain. That is why he offed himself. Putting these gentlemen on their site is a way to legitimize their perversion. There is no way that Jerry García was a pedophile. Bob Marley! How absurd. These are sick people using the images of others to advance their sickness.

[Casablanca]

76. "From here, it only gets better."

For only $5,000, you can receive a house call from Brother Pateticus!

http://members.cox.net/pateticus/sacrament.html

"People that were too sick to get out of bed or too poor or overworked to go to church, would paint a red cross on their door. This is how we came to associate the Red Cross with the need for healthcare. Lighting a red lamp outside of your home indicated that you ran an Open House or a brothel--this is where we got the term Red Light District.

Either one would indicate to the Friars--wandering, homeless ministers--that we were allowed to come into your home to take care of you--most often in exchange for a place to sleep and food to eat."

But they draw the line at bestiality.

"All ages are invited to participate via the presence of a consenting adult or the signing of a parental permission form. But please, no pets."

[Judi Lynn]

2. I found his photo, wanting to see what something like that looks like!

It's from an article published last year.


Article:
Man Accused Of Raping Boys He Taught In Home
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5031214/detail.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Simply unbelievable. Apparently he doesn't believe the parents have the right to protect their children, and to raise them according to their own beliefs. He seems to think he'll just take over and butt in.

How wrong can one person be?

[Demit]

3. Butt in, Judi Lynn? Tell me that was deliberate!

:ROFL:

[Judi Lynn]

4. Heh, heh. It occurred to me some might see a second meaning,

and that one seemed to fit, too.... :hi:

[DoYouEverWonder]

6. Maybe he ate too much of the brown acid?

Looks like he made a wrong turn at the Renaissance Fair?

[zbdent]

9. eewww ... he makes Paul Reubens

look respectable ...

[crikkett]

12. ya know, PeeWee's playhouse is returning

i heard a rumor.

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. It's back on late at night

on the Cartoon Network. Unfortunately, it's on at the same time has the Daily Show, so Pee-Wee loses.

[Sequoia]

42. Well, you could tape it.

I like Pee Wee and he never molested children.

[DoYouEverWonder]

51. I got a great deal on all the original videos

when a local video rental store went out of business. But it's nice to see Pee Wee back on the air.

[Sequoia]

99. Yes it sure is!

Cowboy Curtis was a favorite of mine. And word of the day!

[Megahurtz]

108. Yeah, I wouldn't compare Pee Wee to this slime. n/t

[Craig3410]

104. Or watch Pee-Wee 4 hrs. later.

But that's 2 AM for me, so...

[YOY]

61. Be nice to PW

He never hurt anyone! And all parties...er...the party in his was consenting!

[Megahurtz]

109. Lol!

:D

[SemperEadem]

25. he's going to find out real soon how wrong he is

when the favor gets returned to him while in jail.

[hedgehog]

64. Why should we be glad that we can't control our prisons?

I've seen this notion too many times, that it's a good thing other prisoners will torture the prisoners we really hate. They're just as likely to torture the prisoner who doesn't "deserve" it. We have laws in this country. If we wink at the extra punishment dished out by prisoners, aren't we in the same class as Bush and his torturers at Guantanamo?

[nmliberal]

67. Thank you Hedgehog

I am sickened that we continue to allow rape of prisoners.

NO ONE 'deserves' rape

...but, I must confess, that the thought did run through my mind that IF anyone did, this sick jerk does.

[MysteryToMyself]

112. The law should be lawful

Yes, we are better than that. Taking their freedom and their family away is enough.

They put a lifer who hated pedophiles in with an old priest and the lifer stomped him to death. That was wrong.

You wouldn't put an animal in a cell/cage where another would torture or kill them. You shouldn't do it to a human.

I have a friend whose son has been convicted of being a pedophile. It is a tragedy for all; the son, his mother, father, siblings,wife and children and grandparents. His life is ruined. He is intelligent, a teacher and charming. I wouldn't have ever guessed he was that way, but come to find out, most are not scum hiding in bushes and dark hallways, but are the cream of the crop, no different than you and I except they have a mental defect.

Whether they can control it is the big question. And if they can't they need to find a cure for this.....a drug.

My friend has told the legal system if anything happens to her son, that they will pay financially and in pain. I think he will be o.k.

[Monkie]

5. and it was hackers on the internet that hunted him down

http://huffcrimeblog.com/?p=388

Meet RikiJo and the Jedi Knights of Hacking…

Meet a hero.

http://rikijo.blogspot.com/.

The URL above takes you to a blog that is subtitled, alt.hackers.malicious: The War Against Nambla.

Let RikiJo explain what he’s doing. The following quote comes from a blog entry titled, “Welcome to My War.”

I am a Network security analyst that likes to dismantle the inner workings of any Web based System/Organisation that advocates the corruption of children by abuse. Think of my strategy as solving, and then deconstructing puzzles, one piece at a time. -This is one of the pieces..

[w4rma]

7. Those hackers are indeed heros. (nt)

[SuperNovaRS]

27. Good for them...

I hope they keep up the good work and help put more scum away.

[Hoping4Change]

49. Welcome to DU SuperNovaRS

:hi:

[saigon68]

72. wonder if they will go after the chimp

[Name removed]

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[iamahaingttta]

10. Sounds like South Park's...

"Super Adventurerer's Club"

"Dude, you have sex with children?"

Hopefully, like "Chef," we'll never hear from this guy again...

[HuffleClaw]

14. "National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes"

that was a hilarious episode.

[crikkett]

11. How revolting!

Yucko.
"The only reason I'm charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex. "

From the few lines I read, the only reason he even had sex was because raped handicapped children (not just children but autistic children).

Poor kids. Poor parents!

[DoYouEverWonder]

15. This guy is a major slimeball

I hope they put him away by himself for a very long time. Like the rest of his life.

[mainer]

16. Sacrificing virgins used to be a sacred ritual too

what a stupid defense

[LiberalFighter]

34. I've got a sacred ritual for him...

Meet Batty Sue she would like to whack him off and slam those balls out of the park and then give praise to almighty jesus.



In case it gets lost on some... Batty Sue would be a baseball bat

[Burma Jones]

17. He will be killed in prison

Probably tortured first though.......

[Vogon_Glory]

22. If We See Candles And A Pentagram Around his Corpse, Then...

If we see lit candles and an inverted pentagram drawn around his corpse, then we'll know that he was done in by either a sacred or blasphemous ritual.

:evilgrin:

[KamaAina]

82. And possibly hoist with his own petard first

if you receive my drift.

Not that I condone this sort of conduct in prison, mind you; it's just reality...

[lonestarnot]

18. Fucking freak. Nothing is too bad for this bitch.

[Gully Foyle]

19. Well

This is the problem I see. As we start to understand how our brains and bodies are hardwired it becomes harder and harder to claim these are just "choices". We are starting to see biological explanations for homosexuality and addiction. Next we will see them for Pedophilia and serial predation.
These are people who have little control over their actions.
Because their actions are built into their systems, NOT by choice but by birth.
This is what makes it all so sad. Most have very little control over the desires that force them into action.
Before someone flames this as a rightwing Santorum rant tying Homosexuality to Pedophilia, it isn't. It is an attempt to understand this in a Biological framework. The same way we understand Mental Illness or learning disabilities or addiction.

[Name removed]

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[zalinda]

24. I don't think this is any more true than rape is hard wired

I know a pedophile. He told me the urge comes when he feels out of control. I think that as women have gotten stronger and are fighting back, men are now going after children, because they are easier victims. How many times did we hear that the woman asking for it, or liked it or any other excuse? These are the same excuses we are hearing now from pedophiles.

zalinda

[undergroundpanther]

31. violating consent

is the problem When a bully cannot handle being told no and facing a victim fighting back they seek out more powerless victims. This fucker has an issue of power and control. Anyone who violates consent wants domination.IMHO I'd kill these types of people off.They don't want to overcome their sick domination issues.They get off on it. They like being in control.Anyone who wants to dominate to the point they inflict traumas that scar a person for life,the predator needs to be contained,if jail will not contain them,and they will not be cured for life. I say, kill them. They cannot be trusted to exist in society without hurting some kid,they are violating boundaries and consent two things that make living in society possible, than they are basically begging to be destroyed..

[hyphenate]

125. This is the exact situation

with most rapes that a lot of victims don't quite understand, too. They're told by the police that the rapist is a control freak--that he needs to bully his victims, and that the forced sex is the method in which he exerts that control. Many rapists attack at night because most of us are either asleep when they get into the house, and thus more powerless.

The victim, however, doesn't quite understand the situation--they see a man forcing sex on them, and the control issues are only secondary to them in the light of the reality. It's difficult to get into a rapist's head, when he is trying to get into YOU.

And then, the situation just gets worse for many victims, as they are subjected to more embarrassment and more salacious questioning and there is little wonder why many victims refuse to report the rape. It's better now than it used to be, but let's fact it: rape is one of the few crimes in which the victim ends up feeling like she in some way deserved to be raped.

It's pretty clear to me that a lot of the stigma attached to rape (for the victim) is wrapped up in the whole "Christian" bullshit and their attitude toward sex in general. Sex is a four letter word as most of us are aware, while violence is condoned on a major scale. We seem to never let go of this attitude and it's sad that something as natural as sex is looked at askance and violence is glorified. Rapists will continue to exist for eternity if we can't shake the stigma and help educate people better about the real issue behind the attacks on helpless victims.

[Whoa_Nelly]

38. Dear zalinda...a pedophile is a pedophile and has nothing to do with women

Pedophiles prey upon children, often with no regard for gender. It has nothing to do with women being stronger, but you are correct that children are easy targets to victimize.

Pedophilia has been going on for longer than history can recount. Rape is an act of power over someone no matter who is being victimized. There really is no direct correlation between women getting "stronger and are fighting back" and children being raped.

[LostinVA]

45. Nelly is right.... and, lots of women are still being raped

[ThsMchneKilsFascists]

95. generalize much?

as women get stronger, men go after children?

don't lump all men in with rapists and pedophiles please.

[zalinda]

97. I never did

Most men don't rape, nor do they go after children. The point was that women are fighting back more and are stronger. More and more rapists are now targeting teenagers rather than grown women as they are easier prey.

I really don't believe that pedophilia is about sexual attraction, just as I don't believe rape is about sex. Both actions are more about control over the person.

Now remember, we are talking about rapists and pedophiles, not men in general.

zalinda

[msmcghee]

26. Good point, but . . .

Our minds are hardwired to steal everything we wish to own, to not work, to cheat if we can get away with, etc.

They are also hardwired to be concerned about what others think of us. And, we have some control over how much we encourage some feelings in us and how much we discourage others.

I much prefereed a day at the beach than attending classes every day in college. I usually made the right choice - but I still have to pay for those days that I didn't.

[undergroundpanther]

30. So where do you draw the line?

I draw the line.. where a "hardwired" desire is imposed upon non consenting people or kids.I do not believe a predatory perpetrator driven by some 'hardwired'' depravity knows what consent really means,So that said, I say KILL these hardwired predatory people, they are unable to control themselves,and they are compelled to hurt people among society and they do not respect others bodies or respect consent and because of that,they should be killed off.


All rapists pedophiles,sociopaths,authoritarians, sadistic abusers IMHO if their problem is hardwired into them it means they never can be trusted to exist peacefully in benign relationships among people.So what choice do we have for our own safety,wee must kill them off.

On the Other hand Non predatory behaviors and hardwired desire that harms no one,that does not violate consent, like gay sex between consenting adults,needs to be distinguished from the sick predatory hardwiring,as different.

As for truly consensual adults doing as they both desire in equal power relationship., leave them alone.

An adult and a child,an animal and an adult and some adult to adult situations(like sex slavery/pimp/prostitute)they are not equal in power relationships so consent can easily be coerced,and that makes them suspect .

[LostinVA]

44. Why do you put being gay in with addiction and sexual predators, huh?

"... biological explanations for homosexuality and addiction. Next we will see them for Pedophilia and serial predation.
These are people who have little control over their actions."

WTF?????????????????????????????????

Glad to see you have "heterosexuality" in there too... oh wait, you don't.

Jeebus. Think you could slip that past?

[undergroundpanther]

71. Consenting gay sex was the objection raised

I have no problem with adults who consent to sex with each other in any way they choose to do it.

This particular pedo liked boys. I am well aware here are pedos who go after girls.I was hurt by a STRAIGHT pedophile when I was little. Pedophilia has nothing to do with gender preferences anymore than it does anyone else....But A pedophile can prefer boys or girls or both. Just like a straight,a gay or bi has a gender preference. In Reality Pedophiles biggest danger is in that sick destructive orientation twords children ,secondly they may have a preference for a particular gender of child .That is their orientation too and that gender preference in them is sick because they seek kids.
The problem with a pedophile is they seek kids.


I am not a homophobic,I am transgender.

I brought up consenting adults and gay sex because someone else brought it up here.. I was trying to separate the two issues,saying ,Gay sex between consenting adults is ok because it is CONSENSUAL and because it is respectful of CONSENT, gay sex between adults is not harming anyone.

I guess I wasn't articulate enough, I think straight people should leave gay adults alone and quit interfering with their sex lives..CONSENTING sex had between adults is what I was trying to point out as different here,gay straight whatever doesn't matter because respecting CONSENT is what really matters. A pedophile is a sick asshole because he seeks to exploit the imbalance of power that can make consent be coerced on purpose..2 adults are more or less equal their consent is valid. A child and an adult relationship by default is UNEQUAL.And because of the power imbalance in sick pedophiles,the Consent of a child can be exploited by the adult easily.Imbalance of power is THE problem. For ANY kind of sex to be safe and respectful, the persons consent must ALWAYS be respected. I don't care what orientation someone has.CONSENT must be respected.

Rape,pedophilia and other predatory exploitative practices some assholes use is a tactic to exploit an imbalance of power in a 'relationship' or situation is precisely done to violate a victims consent. And it is always wrong to exploit someone and violate consent..I don't care if the person is gay straight bi or anything else. NO means NO. Exploitation of a persons situation or lack of power is wrong.

[Kailassa]

88. I look forward to the day when scientists

search for a biological explanation for heterosexuality. ;-)

[zreosumgame]

110. maybe because for a long time 'common knowledge'

for both were ASSumed to be a choice? So perhaps if you stopped and thought instead of just jerking your knee you might have, well thought before posting.

[Burma Jones]

47. OK, that's fine, than we need to decide how we are going to treat them

I have young children. If pedophiles are hardwired, then are we going to accept that their actions are justified and that those of us that want to protect our children are no more than bigoted haters, no different from Fred Phelps and his ilk?

Are you saying that pedophilia should be accepted as a legitimate alternative sexuality? Are you saying that we need to cure these people? Should we perhaps express our anger and hate towards pedophila in a more compassionate manner? Should we just say that since these people have no choice and that they victimize very young people, they should be euthanized like poorly trained pit bulls?

[undergroundpanther]

73. No

I'm saying pedophiles if they are hardwired that way are dangerously flawed people and must not ever be treated as non predatory people. They must be treated like you would treat a dangerous dog that could turn and bite someone at any time. They will have to be restricted restrained and watched.I would prefer all pedophiles be put down like rabid dogs,and killed myself,before they hurt a kid for life.
I don't pity a peddophile or value thier life because they use thier life to hurt kids.So I would rather end thier life,for a dead pedophile can't hurt anyone again..

[Burma Jones]

77. Euthansia for Pedophiles

is OK by me......

I just read an article in our local paper about a man that was sentenced to five years for repeated sexual abuse of three girls between 10 and 13. I do not think five years is nearly enough.

[redqueen]

50. Yes, they do have control.

There's a difference between pedophilia and pederasty.

Don't confuse not being able to control desires with not being able to control actions.

[Hoping4Change]

53. Mental illness is not insanity so people are still be responsible

for their actions. If someone can only get off by raping women is society supposed to be understanding?

Perverts make the decision that their need trumps all. The question is not whether any perversion is biological requiring understanding, the question is whether someone's rights are violated if the desire if acted on. And indeed a child's rights are violated by pedophiles. So the real crime is stomping on someone else's rights, the morality of the act is a separate issue.

[undergroundpanther]

74. Agreed

And if a pedophile will not stop stomping on the rights of children to be safe from rapists than we have to stop the pedophiles out of existence.The pedophile cannot be trusted in society .And they cannot be free,they are toxic to society and manipulative to exploit trust, and they do it to hurt kids..Pedophiles need to be kept in a situation where they cannot escape and stomp a child's rights ever again.A grave is one surefire place where the pedophile cannot manipulate his way out of it to go harm a child.

[Schema Thing]

69. I'm with you to a point.... but creating your own religion based

on your illegal sexual desires? C'mon.

Because I believe we'll find out more and more about "hardwiring", I take no delight in hearing about even pedos being tortured in prison. Well, most of the time. This guy? Not sure I could muster up any sympathy.

[TheCowsCameHome]

21. Who will get his Bush/Cheney '04 bumper stickers when he gets put away?

[LordLovesAWorkingMan]

127. um...his heroes don't exactly look like repukes to me... nt

[gulfcoastliberal]

23. Sounds like a major religion near you!

NT

[Bosso 63]

28. I'm against the death penalty

But as the father of two boys on the "spectrum", I believe I could shoot this guy and have a good night of sleep afterward. I guess my Buddhist compassion still needs some work.

[MrCoffee]

32. General population will take care of this turd

Scum like this doesn't last long in the prison pecking order. I have no problem at all with that. Does that make me bad?

[undergroundpanther]

36. No.

I think the parents and friends of the child should have done to this bastard what prison will do to him..This POS should have been taken out the minute the first kid confessed what this asshole had done to him. I think it is perfectly good and healthy of you to want to destroy sociopaths ,pedophiles,rapists,abusers, authoritarians. These people are like cancers, toxins to others,they get off on ruining others lives.

I don't know why they are that way,but regardless you cannot live around them and you cannot forgive and forget and pretend they are like regular people because predatory people are evil.They do not care they do not respect consent they destroy the very reason and foundation of how as human beings we can live together in safety.
To have a safe group we people mus tr follow certain rules of conduct and we must respect the other person's right to say NO. Pedophiles rapists etc.seek out people who are not in the position to say no. That is why they are dangerous and a cancer to any human relationship.

[YOY]

60. "taken out the minuted first kid confessed "

I am in no way defending this monster, but don't advocate that the parents make the matters worse by taking things into their own hands.

No, let the legal system run it's course. If it fails the public here, than I will loose all faith in it. It does fail on occasion but I am sure that it will not here. When it is determined that this clown did what he did without a shadow of a doubt in court.

Of course this guy not only admits it but relishes in the fact and even tries to 'blame the victim'...

This guy is slime and according to someone I know who has done time, his kind are the lowest of the low in the prison system. He'll get what's coming to him after he is convicted properly in a court of law.

[Zhade]

65. Thank you for some sanity.

This topic gets understandably heated, with lots of "I'd kill the bastard" bravado from people who probably would not do so.

Which, IMHO, is good - as you say, let the system work. (And as far as the OP's question, my guess is that he wasn't arrested 20 years ago because you can't be arrested for your thoughts yet, which is good when you consider how 'traitorous' the thoughts of DUers would seem to our fascist government!)

[YOY]

68. This site could use a whole lotta sanity as of late

n/t

[Kailassa]

89. The legal system has already failed here.

This monster admits to having been abusing children for 20 years !!!!

Now how many childrens lives, now forever scarred,
would have been saved by the first person who knew
dropping this turd down a disused well?

I'm no pacifist; I believe in the right to fight in self defense.
And I believe in the obligation to fight in the defense of children.

Two paedophiles have harmed myself and my family,
and they are both still practicing pederasts,
despite one being nearly 60 and the other nearly 80.

[YOY]

98. I'm so sorry for what happened to your family and yourself

although it sounds hollow and trite, I truly am.

On this case it sounds like the part of the legal system that possible failed was the enforcement end and not the convicting/sentencing end. He will be convicted and sentenced.

There are some questions that I do not know for the situation. He claims that he was a practicing for 20 years. Were there any charges filed in this period? If so were there any investigations? Can you find out? The system cannot be blamed for the former but definitely not the latter. I've heard stories of the latter, of which there are no excuses.

None-the-less if the enforcement system is at fault then you must change the system and it might not be easy. If one resorts to a quick fix of vigilanteism there may be more innocent victims (eg cause falsly accused victims and even a witchhunt scenario to occur.)

In conclusion, believe me when I say that I have NO pity for these monsters, but you have to abide by a legal system that should (first and foremost) protect the innocent.

[Kailassa]

105. Thank you, and no, it doesn't sound trite.

I'm still torn two ways. I have learnt from experience that cold blooded killing is a horrendous thing to do, and I'm not sure that it can ever be justified, despite my previous post.

On the other hand, I still feel guilty about not killing the two abusers I mentioned, when that was the only way to protect others.

But I agree 100% on vigilante groups, because it's all too easy for a group to be mislead and go crazy.

[undergroundpanther]

33. Sometimes it is compassion to kill

And if you cannot understand that,I think you should meditate on it.
I myself would rather kill this asshole than forgive and let him keep on hurting people. I'd rather have one dead man's karma than the karma of who knows how many suffering children who grow up tormented adults,and some may kill themselves kinda karma. A pedophile is a contaminant.they infect others with trauma that cripples them for life.You would not have moral qualms over killing a cancer in a loved one right? So why quibble over the life a cancer in a human suit,a pedophile infecting people with trauma that scars them for life?

[Mandate My Ass]

37. Interesting

I'm not sure I agree, but it's definitely food for thought. Actually, even though I have PTSD, I'm not sure I'd be able to, or even want to, kill the predator who gave it to me. However, I do relish the prospect of the sick pedophile in the article becoming prey to every depraved, violent felon he comes into contact with. He's going all the way down to the bottom of the food chain and he's not going to like it.

[Bosso 63]

40. Very good points

[mongo]

46. Perhaps we should kill

people with homocidal ideolations too.

Just sayin...

[grytpype]

29. Religion is a disorder of the mind.

Religion can be turned to any evil purpose whatsoever. "Child-f*cking is my religion." Wow. How can you top that.

[slackmaster]

35. I consider cutting off the balls of pedophiles to be a sacred ritual

:nuke:

[Hoping4Change]

48. Brilliant.

:rofl:

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[undergroundpanther]

75. Organic brain disorder or not

A pedophile cannot be trusted. A pedophile manipulates adults trust to get at kids and scar them for life.

A cancer cannot help being a cancer,but if it is not cut out of a body it will kill the host.
You have to kill a cancer to save a persons life.
iF you apply this to pedophiles because their"organic brain disorders" make them a cancer to others and destroy children,then you have to cut them out of society. If people pity cancer and beg it to stop it does not listen cancer has no pity it kills it's host. it is an organic disorder in a person's cells. Likewise if a pedophile will not stop spreading trauma to kids you have to contain them,or cut them out of existence ,Kill them. Death is not torture.Simply drugging them until they pass out and die is not torture.Alot of people thought it was fine to starve and drug Terry Shiavo to death and she was not a pedophile actively harming kids,in fact she wasn't hurting anybody yet DU was screaming for her death.as if it was mercy killing .

If you think it was Ok to kill a "brain dead" woman,because her upkeep was costly..

Tell me why is it so wrong to desire to kill a dangerous cancer in a human suit, a pedophile, who desires to harm kids? The cost of one pedophile harming many children who will grow up traumatized and their lives ruined,and their parents hurt,is very expensive to society.The damage done by one pedophile and thier'organic brain problem' is far more costly to society than a hundred Terry Shiavos' upkeeps.

[Patchuli]

91. Re: Shiavo?

I don't think her husband Michael wanted to "kill" her because "her upkeep was costly." I think it was because she WAS brain dead and it was time (after 15 years of trying to get her back) to let her go. Let's just say I would hope my husband would do the same if it were me in Terri's place, Lord forbid.

[undergroundpanther]

102. Why is it mercy to KIll

Terri but so awful to kill a pedophile who ruins lives and oiften makes the victims seek suicide to escape the pain of what a pedophile did to them. Why is it so evil to kill a pedophile who spreads misery(the traumas pedophiles inflict can cause suicide attempts that can make vitims end up like Terri when suicide fails btw),and why is it so merciful to kill a brain dead person who will not hurt anyone and for all appearances isn't even aware of being alive at all? Was terri killed because she made the able minded uncomfortable to see her like that?? I think so.

[Patchuli]

103. Terri wasn't "killed"

She died a natural death. She was unable to feed herself or take care of herself. Her brain was liquified and gone. It wasn't going to 'grow back.' Let's not forget her husband and many of her friends had said that she had told them that she never wanted to live in a vegetative state. Michael Shiavo also tried for over 15 years to rehabilitate her. It was not going to work no matter how badly he wanted Terri back. God already took her soul when she had her heart attack and her brain was deprived of oxygen for too long.

As for the rest of what you said to me, I have no problems with pedophiles getting what they deserve. How you derived that from what I actually said, I don't know. I detest pedophiles. I say let them out into general pop in jail. That'll take care of them.

[Kailassa]

90. Are you serious, equating the preferences of a homosexual

with the actions of a pedophile?

That's some weird shit you're smokin', honey.

Preferences and actions are two separate things.
The word "self-control" would otherwise have no meaning.

Regarding the Texas woman, if it was obvious that killing her would save the lives of her children, and that was the only way to save them, of course one should kill her. I'd certainly prefer someone killed me rather than left me killing my kids. That's not punishment,that's choosing the lesser of two evils. After the killings there was no reason to believe she would be trying to kill more children, so the important consideration in sentencing was her level of responsibility for her actions.

I wish I has been able to kill the two pedophiles I have encountered because they have both harmed many people since. The police can't stop the one they know is a pedophile, and they can't believe the other one could possibly be like that.

And pedophiles learn well how to do things without leaving any proof behind.

[undergroundpanther]

101. I agree

I wish I could have killed the pedophile that hurt me too. The one is being sought by the FBI last I heard,so I am pretty sure he has hurt other kids.I hope he is dead now.
What gets me is people think death is so bad,well torture is worse,being molested is torture. Death eliminates the problem and death can be done without torture. The dead person does not live thier life with the scars of trauma,messing them up.

[KansDem]

41. Now on to another ritual...

30 to life.

Not exactly sacred but a bit more practical...

[ckramer]

43. Under Saddam, this guy is dead long time ago

Dictatorship is good for some particular reasons.

[Burma Jones]

96. Under Saddam, he might have been part of the Government

Now, the Saudis, THEY would have taken him out lickety split

[paparush]

52. Man needs to be chained to a tree and hacked with a machete..

[lagavulin]

54. I'm amazed no one has mentioned the excellent Rigorous Intuition website

...Jeff Wells is a regular DU contributor, and he's made it clear over the years that this guy is far from being a lone wingnut. One of his pet projects there has been to follow and document how the roots of such so-called "sacred pedophilia" actually run broad and deep, even into the upper eschelons of societies globally.

Rigorous Intuition

As Jeff frequently points out, these stories are continually being glossed-over by the media or just slip through the cracks because we simply cannot believe that they're real...

(broken link edited)

[idgiehkt]

55. how can a mentally disabled child consent to anything?

this is really bad reasoning. On the one hand, the story sickens me, on the other hand I'm glad this group is getting exposed because I know there are alot of these groups operating in secrecy.

[BeHereNow]

66. MANY special needs are QUITE capable of consent- that's what makes it so

HORRIBLE.

I work with special needs kids- the majority of whom are
QUITE capable and aware.
It is a myth that children who are different don't exactly
understand what is happening around or to them.
This is particularly true of autistic children.
I happen to think they are even MORE aware
than the average person.

My kids are extremely vocal about what they
consent to, or not. 90% of my day is
spent figuring out how to obtain the required
educational goal for the student; this is ESPECIALLY
true with my autistic kids who can be VERY adamant
about what they DON'T want to do.
So, I would wager that these kids are scarred for life
because they were raped and are fully conscious
of that fact.
I certainly hope the guy is NEVER released from prison.
Fact is, he will most likely be killed be
the inmates.

BHN

[HughBeaumont]

57. Running. Helicopter. Blade.

And drop that mistake right the hell in.

It's people like this as to why I don't let my kid out of my sight very often.

[melody]

58. Must have been a GOP precinct captain

>This guy admits to being a pedophile for 20 years and he's only being brought to justice now?

[unda cova brutha]

59. im sure this guy is a repug fundie

exercizing his religious freedoms.

[newspeak]

62. shades of Jim Jones!!!

I wonder if Jerry Garcia, Kouriac (etc...) are turning in their graves with such blasphemy!!!!! He makes a religion out of his perversion? How many children have been scarred by his actions?

[galileo3000]

70. Peace to all affected by this story.

Whether true or not, My heart is deeply moved and saddened by such concepts. While I have been spared similar tragedies in my life, I wish that I could help those whose self-worth has been damaged by these actions. Perhaps the best that I can do is to try to make the world a little more loving, beautiful, and peaceful in my small little corner. With that in mind, I will go home tonight and be strong caring and kind to my family, friends and neighbors. Tonight, I will pick up some of the trash around the neighborhood. During my commute, I will drive slow, steady, courteously, and conscientiously. I will try to use as little gas and electricity as possible and I will not drive at all this weekend.

I know this is not much and can't make up for the pain, but please know that if you are at all affected by this story, I do it for you.

Finally, I will run my miles tonight in honor of all abused children (young and old). Everytime I feel like quitting, I will reflect on those who had no choice for their suffering and I will run faster, farther, and harder.

Peace, love, and friendship to all my brothers and sisters through the ether.
- galileo

[EFerrari]

94. Welcome to DU, galileo3000

:hi:

[Pavulon]

78. Suicide

The best option for this person.

[undergroundpanther]

81. Cancer won't kill itself

Until it has killed it's host or until it's host gets a doctor to cut it out of the body.

A pedophile scumbag an authoritarian thug,a sociopath none of them will kill themselves willingly ,they don't feel shame ,guilt or remorse.
They push until they get killed.
So we might as well give them what they need,our mental health and the health of countless kids might depend on us overcoming our squeamishness about death and unrealistic utopian ideals.

Death is not the same as torture. When you are a victim of a pedophile ,a rapist,a sadistic asshole it is torture.
Torture is always evil and wrong .Torture is designed to cause harm and cause suffering..


Death is not always evil or wrong.

In reality,Death happens to all of us eventually.
And death does not have to hurt it can be done without torture..
Death can be compassionate.For the victims who suffer when pedophiles rapists and authoritarians dominate and violate their bodies minds and consent.

Torture is never about compassion.Torture makes the world a horror show.

Death however can be compassionate and certain applications of death can make the world a better place for those who would be made victims of cancer-like people who would consume them,dominate, and destroy them , break them with torture that gives a cancerous perpetrator 'pleasure'...

[superconnected]

79. See pedophiles who are proud to be pedophiles

is just another reason while this liberal, tree hugging, vegetarian can't really accept throwing out the death penalty.

Everytime someone hurts an animal or a kid I seriously think, "Gas em".

You guys that can get past that emotional position, and think no death penalty to anyone, hats off to you. You're far calmer than I.

I hope they gas this guy.

[earth mom]

80. Evil F*cking Bastard!!!

May he burn IN HELL FOREVER!!!

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[MrSlayer]

83. And it's a sacred ritual to kill pedophiles in horrible ways.

Really, it's in the constitution. This piece of excrement should be castrated with a dull razor and have his feet burned off with a blowtorch.

[Lilith Velkor]

121. Now there's a guy who could use some boiling oil.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

86. Sorry Mr Distastio...

Civil rights laws do not grant you the right to injure people.

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[Zynx]

92. Kill it.

[genieroze]

100. You gotta be f**king kidding. Whadda sicko.

He didn't just molest kids, he molested mentally handicapped kids. Many of these kids couldn't consent even if they were adults. I have a brother who is much older than me, yet he has the mental capacity of a 3 year old. This is beyond sick at all levels. I wonder if they received faith based money from *? :puke:

[Zorra]

106. We need a "War on Pedophiles" - more cops should spend their

time trying to catch perverts rather than people smoking pot.

Maybe republican legislators don't want this, though, because one-quarter of the membership of the republican party would end up in jail for having sex with children, and wouldn't be able to vote.

[Megahurtz]

107. I say it's a sacred ritual to lop off the guy's entire package! n/t

[IndyBob]

111. I Hate the Argument

From the moronic thumpers:

Pedophile = Deviant sex

Homosexuality = Deviant sex

Therefore,

Homosexual = Pedophile

The distinction is absolutely clear, consenting adult vs child. An absolutely clear line that cannot be crossed.

I am also disturbed by the idea that prison rape is an acceptable "adder" to a persons punishment. A lot comes down to the concept of incarceration, should it be strictly punishment, or should it include rehabilitation? I am on the side of rehab. when possible. Way to many are put in prison for relatively minor crimes, only to be released with no hope of a better life, and to soon return. Of course, I also believe some (like the slime in the picture above) are incorrigible, and must be locked away for the protection of society.

Once again, many shades of grey, as opposed to the black and white, good vs. evil mentality of the cons.

[MrCoffee]

113. Prison rape is too good for this slime

"I'm a pedophile. I've been a pedophile for 20 years," he said in Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court Wednesday. "The only reason I'm charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex. The role of my ministry is to get these cases out of the courtrooms."

This unrepentant wad of used toilet paper thinks it's his ministry to molest kids. Getting cornholed by cons means he's getting off light. Getting a shiv in the prison shower is no less than justice being served.

[MysteryToMyself]

115. The thing is Democrats are for the underdog

The Democrats usually have more compassion for others, than the republicans do. Most pedophiles come from families and have families. We should consider the families and see they are safe in prison.

Jesus said, "What you do to the least among us, you have also done to me."

Imprisonment is a terrible thing without being tortured. Yes they should go to prison, but they shouldn't live in fear or be tortured.

[MrCoffee]

116. Then I'm a lousy dem

Still doesn't change my mind that this (insert your favorite parasite here) does not deserve, nor does he get, my compassion. I have compassion for those who, by happenstance, fate, or bad luck/karma, find themselves in a bad situation. I have contempt for people (and it causes me actual physical pain to refer to this thing as a person) who think it's their mission to molest kids. I won't shed a tear when we read about him getting wheeled out of wherever they stick him with a sheet over his head.

[IndyBob]

117. Agreed,

I have no compassion for this "thing". I am only human, and it is not in my heart.

OTOH, we are a civilized nation of laws. Lock him up for life, he must never be allowed access to children again. But I cannot celebrate the thought of even this "thing" being raped and tortured. I do not want to become an animal, to become this "thing" myself.

[MrCoffee]

118. No celebrations, but

I certainly won't lose half a second of sleep over it.

[melnjones]

122. I agree with you on this 100%. nt

[savemefromdumbya]

119. The guy is obviously mentally ill

why brand him as a pervert when he is mentally ill?

[slackmaster]

123. Why would "pervert" and "mentally ill" be mutually exclusive?

:shrug:

[Name removed]

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[melnjones]

124. What an idiot.

It's bad enough to say any child can consent to sex...even worse to say that and then rape autistic kids, who are even LESS capable of giving consent. People amaze me.

[Radical Activist]

126. My new religious ritual involves sticking a hot curling iron up his ass.

I'm sure he'll consent.

[krispos42]

130. Deli slicer. Industrial-sized. Set to paper-thin slices. n/t

[sarcasmo]

128. Religious Insanity strikes again. I see two or three of these threads

a week. If you eliminated Religion would their still be wars?

[krispos42]

131. Yeah, but fewer.

There's plenty of stuff to fight over besides God. Sadly.

[krispos42]

129. Lock and load

If it was my kid, I'd put my deer rifle to other uses. As it is, if one of those autistic kid's parents pull the trigger, I KNOW they won't let me on the jury!

The most critical thing as a society that we can do is protect our children from such predators.