Cannabis 'might harm conception'

[AmericanErrorist]

Cannabis use around the time of conception may prevent women getting pregnant, a study of mice suggests.

University of Nashville researchers found an ingredient in the drug binds to receptors present in early embryos.

The ingredient prevents transport and implantation of embryos in the womb by interfering with the delicate system.

Smoking cannabis may lead to miscarriages or ectopic pregnancies, they warn in the Journal of Clinical Investigation.

The cannabinoid receptors, CB1 and CB2, are present in the brain.

When the psychoactive ingredient tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) binds to those receptors it kick-starts a chain of biological events which leads to the "high" produced by smoking cannabis.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5234838.stm

WTF?

[Hekate]

1. Great sex and birth control in one? Has it hurt the Haitian birth rate?

Sorry, this is serious science, isn't it.

Hekate

[mike_c]

2. THAT's why I've never gotten pregnant from dope addled sex....

I knew it wasn't just chance-- I never used any protection when I was stoned.

Oh wait....

[RoyGBiv]

3. Okay then ...

Look for the downside ... not finding it.

Well, I suppose the ectopic pregnancy could be a problem.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

4. Good! I say we begin a worldwide doobie deployment posthaste

Who's with me? :shrug:

[mike_c]

8. I'm rolling up now....

'Course I live alone these days, but I might want to get friendly with myself later, you know, and you can never be too careful....

[regnaD kciN]

12. In the words of Socrates...

..."know thyself." :evilgrin:

[Exultant Democracy]

32. hum one might say it could lead to "sexy results."

[Phillycat]

41. Maybe a little game of "roughing up the suspect?" nt

[Syrinx]

5. I've never heard of the University of Nashville

Is it a real school? Do they mean Vanderbilt?

[DeSwiss]

10. Syrinx, they must mean Vandy...

There is no University of Nashville in Nashville. They just mixed it up. The article says further:

"Professor Sudhansu Dey and colleagues from Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee, found that the production and breakdown of amandamide is carefully controlled and too much or too little can prevent normal embryo development, transport into the womb and implantation."

But I didn't know Vandy was doing doobie experiments either. Got to go over there later to see if I can help......

:smoke:

[JNelson6563]

17. Maybe they were high

when they wrote it. :toast:

[phillinweird247]

22. Must have been to much "Research" going into the article. nt

[Warpy]

6. I thought that drug commercial said "Get stoned, get stupid,

get PREGNANT!"

Oh, my, it seems somebody is lying.

Plus, I know too many kids who were born in the 60s and 70s and you can bet Mom was high most of the time. Most of us were.

[skids]

7. This article is obviously part of the worldwide plot...

...to impregnate hippy chicks :silly:

[lapfog_1]

9. ectopic pregnancies are nothing to fool around with...

very dangerous to the mothers health if not diagnosed quickly.

[EFerrari]

14. They can kill you and very quickly, too. n/t

[shadowknows69]

11. Yeah, ok.

This study obviously hasn't taken into account a friend of mine who has smoked for 20+ years and had like 10 kids.

[uncle ray]

34. we're not mice, are we?

the study is bullshit. either that or MY friend who was a heavy smoker, who took her birth control pills regularly, is some exception to the rule. she's been pregnant three times while being a heavy smoker.

[killbotfactory]

13. Who cares about scientific studies of this chemical?

Marijuana is a gateway drug, so it doesn't matter what effects it has on people!

[w4rma]

15. No more or less than alchohol is a gateway drug.

Prohibition worked, right?

[sweetheart]

16. gateway to what?

It seems when people get stoned, they are completely content, and if
contentment were normal, then the entire world that is supposed to
make you content, might seem ephemoral.

So then it is illegal to be content, satisfied and complete without
the need to spend money or do anything neoliberal at all.

[ozone_man]

33. That's why it's illegal.

Anything that promotes pure pleasure and costs little or nothing must be made illegal. It's the Christian/capitalist way. Sex for pleasure is bad. Pot for pleasure is bad.

[MagickMuffin]

18. No it ISN'T, You're kidding, right

If not then you have bought into the government propaganda... Just like this research, I think it was designed solely for the purpose to discourage people from partaking in the herb. Just like when I was growing up the stories were men having low sperm count, men growing tits, insanity, etc. They used whatever they could to frighten us into not using.

I know several women/girls who became pregnant while they were using, myself included. But that was long, long ago.....

This link should enlighten you on the topic of government propaganda!

http://www.cannabis.com/untoldstory/hemp_6.shtml

From the link:

Myth: Marijuana is a gateway drug--it leads to harder drugs.

Fact: The U.S. government's own statistics show that over 75 percent of all Americans who use marijuana never use harder drugs. The gateway-drug theory is derived by using blatantly-flawed logic. Using such blatantly-flawed logic, alcohol should be considered the gateway drug because most cocaine and heroin addicts began their drug use with beer or wine--not marijuana.

Also while we're on the subject the harder drugs are easier to get and don't cost as much. With the "Drug War" the price of Cannabis skyrocketed making it more cost effective to use the harder drugs that ARE more dangerous, because you don't know what the hell you might be ingesting. At least with Cannabis you pretty much know that it is less likely to contain rat poison or other toxic substances. A long time ago I knew someone who was dealing crystal meth and he told me stories about how they would cut it with rat poison. Yuck....

[DeSwiss]

20. I don't know about a gateway...

but marijuana has been around long before there was even a gate! Jeez...

:eyes:

[Warren Stupidity]

19. MIlk is a gateway to marijuana.

Music, especially that negro-jazz-blues derived music involving guitars played like giant penises and a throbbing pulsating beat, is the historical gateway to marijuana. Marijuana is in fact a communist plot. Since the demise of communism as a convenient bogeyman, marijuana is in fact an islamic plot to corrupt our youth and steal them away from their diligent pursuit of bitches and whores in grand theft auto. The fact that hemp cultivation has been part of European culture since we had a culture is nothing you should think about. You need a drink.

[Zhade]

21. You must gave forgotten the sarcasm tag.

The only gateway it's to is the fridge.

[noshenanigans]

31. Marijuana is the gateway..

to Doritos, at least. But I'm so lame now that when I get munchies I bought these cranberry fiber cakes. Pot, schmot, I gotta have my fiber.

[High Plains]

23. Did you forget the sarcasm button? I hope.

[Occulus]

24. .

:rofl:

Gateway drug??

:rofl:

And so, in your esteemed clinical estimation, juswt how long does it take to pass through the gateway? How deep is that tunnel? Does it go from one side of the planet to the other?

I only ask because it's been about sixteen years since I stepped through the doorway to the 'land of addiction' and I want to know when I'll get to the "Meth/Wild Turkey Annex" just outside the exit...

:rofl:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

25. Holy crap. People here are REALLY sarcasm impaired. -nt

[wicket]

29. A gateway to junk food is all it's a gateway to

No scientific evidence to back up your claim.

[NashVegas]

36. These Studies May Do to Drug Laws What MP3s Did to the Music Biz

mp3 sharing, or more specifically, the labels' reactions to it, showed the masses of music lovers that the industry putting it out saw it as nothing more than a product of their control. The reaction has been deadly for the industry.

That studies are finding some very interesting properties in MJ that - surprise! - don't seem to work as well when the drug is synthesized for various patents, stands to shed a similar light on how corporations and the government are unjustifiably keeping the drug illegal.

ETA: yeah I know you're sarcastic. Just seemed like a good time to jump in.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

45. I want what you're smoking.

[killbotfactory]

50. I was joking people!

Does anyone still believe the gateway drug theory? I know politicians claim it, but I doubt they believe it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

53. Yes.

People actually still believe that nonsense. There were some heavy duty flame wars a couple of weeks ago because of people that were spouting that crap.

[kestrel91316]

26. Maybe they mean "decrease conception". Or maybe they mean

"harm the conceptus".

But "harm conception" is awkward and poor English according to the latent spinster English teacher that lurks inside me.............

[formercia]

28. If you're stoned

you probably won't get laid.

[kestrel91316]

43. My personal experience 20-30 years ago says otherwise.........

[formercia]

54. I have difficulty remembering that period....

wonder why....

[msmcghee]

47. By "decrease conception" I think they mean . .

. . reduce one's ability to think about complicated things. No wait, that's too complicated.

[SemperEadem]

51. they probably made the error in English

because they were sniffing glue before they wrote it...

(/sarcasm)

[LeighAnn]

27. My brother: I smoke too much pot to knock anyone up

Now he has 5 kids

[SOS]

30. Same doctor, same results....for aspirin.

"Sudhansu Dey, who studies embryo implantation at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, says the new results make sense. In a 2001 study, he found that NSAIDs interfere with embryo implantation and pregnancy in mice. "This all needs to be investigated very carefully," he says. "Indiscriminate use of NSAIDs can cause a lot of problems during pregnancy."

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20030823/fob1.asp

[judaspriestess]

35. Excellent, this world is overpopulated anyway

[Dora]

37. I'd like to know quantity/frequency of dosing...

Until then, this study says nothing to me.

MJ has had no such effect on the fertility or reproductive health of anyone I know. People in Austin are breeding like bunnies, or so it seems.

[newyorican]

38. Yay! Birth control with a buzz...

:smoke:

[LivingInTheBubble]

39. The real finding is:

Cannabis use around the time of conception may prevent mice getting pregnant.

[bamacrat]

40. Is there anything PRECIOUS can't do?

Man I love weed

[devilgrrl]

42. Yep... uh huh..... suuuuuuure!

What a pile of crap! :puke:

[Wiley50]

44. My kids got here just fine'and still are fine,thankyou n/t

[Odin2005]

46. OMG, pot smokers kill innocent microscopic BABIES!!!

:sarcasm:

Sorry, just channeling the fundies.

[pitohui]

48. whoo hoo

smoke 'em if you got 'em ladies!

[Mabus]

49. Lesson: Don't buy dope in the Nashville area

It's a killer. :evilgrin:

Is this kinda of like one of those "don't eat the brown acid" warnings? :rofl:

[stepnw1f]

56. Nah...I Got the Best

:smoke:

[SemperEadem]

52. Humans aren't mice

[stepnw1f]

55. Well... I Say the World Smoke from a Giant Bong

throw in a couple icebergs into that there chamber, and ready on three....

[Blaze Diem]

57. Now I Definately recall this same general warning from the 1970's

They then said something similar only it was that a man's sperm were affected by smoking pot.

OR maybe it was from the toxins the government sprayed on marijuana crops during raids.

What was that toxin called again???
Geez it was serious stuff and I'm not sure why they stopped doing it.
Maybe protestors actually had something to say about the way of our government in those days.

Blaze