Mag: (Neocons) want 'incompetent' Condoleezza Rice transferred

[Roland99]

Mag: Conservatives want 'incompetent' Condoleezza Rice transferred to advisory role
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Mag_Conservatives_want_incompetent_Condoleezza_Rice_0725.html

laiming that President Bush's foreign policy agenda has been "hijacked," some prominent conservatives want the "incompetent" Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice transferred to an advisory role, according to an article in a conservative magazine, RAW STORY has found.

"Conservative national security allies of President Bush are in revolt against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, saying that she is incompetent and has reversed the administration’s national security and foreign policy agenda," reports Insight Magazine.

...

The conservatives, who include Newt Gingrich, Richard Perle and leading current and former members of the Pentagon and National Security Council, have urged the president to transfer Miss Rice out of the State Department and to an advisory role. They said Miss Rice, stemming from her lack of understanding of the Middle East, has misled the president on Iran and the Arab-Israeli conflict.

"The president has yet to understand that people make policy and not the other way around," a senior national security policy analyst said. "Unlike Powell, Condi is loyal to the president. She is just incompetent on most foreign policy issues."

Conservatives?



oof

[saltpoint]

1. Smashing idea. How about to the Seychelles?

She could run a surf shop.

[Roland99]

3. NO!!!!!!!!

That's where I've always wanted to go for a honeymoon if I ever get married again.

I say send her off to Greenland or setup an embassy in Antartica.

[saltpoint]

11. Ok. I was going for the remote locus & am flexible on which one.

It doesn't have to be a specific remote venue, just one where she is no where NEAR U.S. foreign policy decisions.

[Roland99]

63. I'm thinking some place involving lots of barren, arid desert....

[saltpoint]

69. I like it. Condi needs a St.-John-in-the-desert experience, I think.

Something to boost her spiritual awareness.

Something with solitude.

Something with scorpions.

[Roland99]

71. And she can take her Ferragamos with her!

[saltpoint]

78. --

:thumbsup:

[Kipper58]

80. "Something with scorpions"

That's the funniest post I've seen in weeks - maybe she could take the rest of the Administration with her as a team-building exercise!

[saltpoint]

95. Sounds good. I'll even chip in for plane fare for the lot of 'em.

[Tesha]

79. "*UNEMPLOYED* in Greenland!"

> I say send her off to Greenland...

"*UNEMPLOYED* in Greenland!" sounds just about right.

Tesha

[Penndems]

9. Salvatore Ferragamo is always looking for a few qualified salespeople

Lord knows Condi's an expert on their product. ;)

[saltpoint]

13. LOL! Do you know Laura Nyro's song, "California shoe-shine boys,

you can shine my shoes?"

I see an ad with that tune playing in the background while Condi beckons the well-heeled into her store from the display window.

[Penndems]

65. LOL! Thanks, Old Crusoe

Now I'm gonna have an earworm the rest of the day. ;)

I'm picturing the scenario you laid out in my mind's eye. What a great ad for Ferragamo shows THAT image would make!

[saltpoint]

68. Hey Penndems. You hang in there. We're going to have us a real

fine evening on November 7th nationwide.

Lots of blue on that election map!

:hi: :thumbsup: :dem:

[Penndems]

94. It can't happen soon enough, Crusoe

I've been waiting and praying for five years that people would get wise to the Bush cabal. I certainly did fifteen years ago when "Poppy" was in office.

Message to my fellow Americans: Don't you EVER elect another human being with the last name of "Bush" to public office!

[saltpoint]

96. Wise policy on the no-Bush-evermore rule.

:toast:

[smtpgirl]

2. Didn't the Bush Administration STRESS

That Foreign Policy was Condi's forte?

All of them tools

[seafan]

4. But, but, but.... I thought Condi was *The Unsticker*? n/t

[calimary]

35. Well, she's stuck now. And remember this: She was the one given the job of

"coordinator of post-war Iraq." She won the tug-of-war with rummy a couple of years ago over who'd be in charge of that whole morass. And look what a marvelous job she's done there!

:rofl:

[Supersedeas]

110. The Unsticker -- the front runner to lead America for the next 12 years

[autorank]

5. Amazing, Condi Opposes the "Rapture" and then Gets This...

Whoa, Gingrich and Perle, whath a combination of stupidity, bloviating b.s. ... they give Condi a hard time when all she does is oppose destroying the world now (as opposed to over the next 50-60 years.

Yep, she is someone who doesn't know her stuff. Gnewt and the Prince of all things Putrid are two real geniuses, are they not?

[classysassy]

6. The Newt and the dickhead

both asshole are sick and demented.

[ShortnFiery]

50. Imagine = Condi's not blood thirsty enough for the true Neo-Cons eom

[hlthe2b]

28. As wrong as her detractors are, they are right that she doesn't

know anything.... Therein lies the problem. We certainly don't want their hand-chosen pick, but she really is incompetent...

[Olney Blue]

7. The louder the cries of incompetency, the more the chimp will love her.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

8. I wonder who said this:

"The president has yet to understand that people make policy and not the other way around," a senior national security policy analyst said. "Unlike Powell, Condi is loyal to the president. She is just incompetent on most foreign policy issues."

In other words, Bush is a dummkopf, Powell is disloyal, and Condi is incompetent. I'd love to know who the jackass "senior national security policy analyst" behind this quote is.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Comically, it was probably Hadley

and, if not, certainly one of his demented minions.

[rodeodance]

40. "that people make policy "----and THEY are whinning!!

[bemildred]

10. Boy that is rich. I mean, I don't want to defend Condi.

But those guys calling anybody incompetent is rich.

[saltpoint]

14. LOL! Perle and his PNAC pals sure did a bang-up job in Iraq, didn't they?

A crack bunch. Experts.

[rodeodance]

39. I love to see them bicker amonst themselfs.

[arewenotdemo]

12. It's damned hard to be a good enough German

in Richard Perle's eyes.

[alcibiades_mystery]

15. Holy Shite: I agree with a conservative

Condeleeza Rice is utterly incompetent. My wife and I were actually discussing this over dinner tonight, while Rice droned on senselessly in the background. She hasn't the slightest idea what she's doing as secretary, and not the foggiest notion of how to run what was formerly the most complex diplomatic agency in the world (and I'm including the UN). Her dated expertise in Russian affairs is completely useless, somewhat like asking a top-notch wagon-driver to win the Daytona 500. The entire administration is a very, very bad farce.

[opihimoimoi]

17. Too Little TOOOOO LATE...Condi has exposed Bushies soft Underbelly

INCOMPETENT< ARROGANT< MYOPIC< IGNORANT< DELUSIONAL

Both of them....

[grytpype]

18. The Neocons want to attack Iran NOW!!!!!!

They learned NOTHING from Iraq. Not a single goddamned thing. Their little plan to start and win WW3 ran into reality, hard, in Iraq. But they are carrying on with their plan. They need to be dealt with.

[IndianaGreen]

22. That's why they criticize Condi

We all agree she is incompetent, but they say her incompetence is due to her failure to push for war. The neocons are not happy with 3 wars, they want more wars!

[calimary]

34. I guess they hate it that she's failing to push for THIS war.

She was pretty hawkish about Iraq - "we've got to have a war!"

But she IS incompetent, just completely in over her head. And it IS like the post above by alcibiades_mystery pointed out - she's an expert on a foreign policy entity that doesn't even exist anymore, nor do the dynamics surrounding it. How is that serving us now? It IS like hiring a horse-n-buggy specialist to run the Daytona 500.

God we are so poorly served!

[Amonester]

88. Yep. Not that they would ever want to actually 'fight' in any of 'em

themselves, nor would anyone in their close circle, family, friends, and foe.

But as long as they can rip-off the taxpayers who also supply these crack pots a lot of 'cheap cannon fodder labor' for them to profit from...

Anyone said "Enron"??

[Freedom_from_Chains]

26. And what makes you think they have actually gotten to the heart

of their plan. I would posit that the good part is still to come.

[bdamomma]

56. if this regime we have is not stopped now we will all be the

victims in their game. I agree they need to be dealt with.

[Spazito]

19. Hmmm, right away I want to ask: Who do they want in her place?

Given the names involved in this sudden and, imo, suspicious dislike of condi, I would be a little concerned as to why they want her removed and who is it they want in her place?

None of the people involved in this EVER have the wellbeing of the US and it's citizens in mind so what DO they have in mind?

[KoKo]

53. The article suggests replacing her with Poppy honcho James Baker....

This is such a closed group they have to do a "rotation" of former Bush, Reagan, Nixon loyalists. Bringing Baker in to help "uncle" the little Dictator. Hmmm must be that there's a big rift with Unca Dicky over little Condi. Bring in the Baker family fixer.

Sheesh...Condi's approval rating is higher in polls than any of the rest of them and they are practically charging her with treason. She's totally incompetent but they are willing to throw her under the bus because she's not "hawkish enough?" :rofl:

[Spazito]

55. Baker is much, much worse than inept condi, imo

He has been very big behind the scenes in a lot of the shit being done by the bush cabal, both domestically aka the 2000 election and internationally, defenders of the Saudi royal family re 9/11, etc. He is a snake and a very dangerous one, imo.

[KoKo]

72. Yes, indeed, he is. As I said in my post....he's the Bush Family "Fixer."

bad news...but they have no one else they can call on who will express what they really want...the NeoCons.

[Spazito]

76. Yep, now that they have initiated this, they want to bring the

"big guns" into play.

[IndianaGreen]

20. If Condi leaves, what happens to the birth pangs of new Middle East?

If they started to purge all the incompetents in the Bush regime, the only one left would be Barney the dog.

[daleo]

33. Barney is the only one with a brain

He clearly wants to be as far from these monsters as he can get - notice how he squirms in Bush's arms and tries to run at the first opportunity.

[IndianaGreen]

36. Barney was also captured on camera taking a dump

while Bush and Cheney were talking to the press.

[daleo]

37. A bit of editorial comment about Bush and Cheney's remarks, no doubt

I am sure Barney was much more eloquent than Bush.

[rodeodance]

46. Perle will make it into a 'new new" ME.

.......A leading public critic of Miss Rice has been Richard Perle, a former chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board and regarded as close to Mr. Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Mr. Perle, pointing to the effort by the State Department to undermine the Reagan administration’s policy toward the Soviet Union in the late 1980s, has accused Miss Rice of succumbing to a long-time State Department agenda of meaningless agreements meant to appease enemies of the United States.

"Condoleezza Rice has moved from the White House to Foggy Bottom, a mere mile or so away," Mr. Perle wrote in a June 25 Op-Ed article in the Washington Post that has been distributed throughout conservative and national security circles. "What matters is not that she is further removed from the Oval Office; Rice's influence on the president is undiminished. It is, rather, that she is now in the midst of—and increasingly represents—a diplomatic establishment that is driven to accommodate its allies even when (or, it seems, especially when) such allies counsel the appeasement of our adversaries."

Mr. Perle's article was said to have reflected the views of many of Mr. Bush's appointees in the White House, Defense Department and State Department. Mr. Perle maintains close contacts to U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton, Undersecretary of State for Arms Control Robert Joseph, Deputy National Security Advisor Elliot Abrams and Mr. Cheney's national security adviser, John Hannah.

A major problem, critics said, is Miss Rice's ignorance of the Middle East. They said the secretary relies completely on Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns, who is largely regarded as the architect of U.S. foreign policy. Miss Rice also consults regularly with her supporters on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Chairman Richard Lugar and the No. 2 Republican, Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska. ........

[BrotherBuzz]

21. Newt is running for pres in 08

and don't want Rice in the picture. :shrug:

[Freedom_from_Chains]

23. Interesting, so are they claiming Powell is a disloyal American?

[illumn8d]

24. Well a broken clock is right...

twice a day.

[hlthe2b]

25. well, I must admit... that headline is the first smile I've had today...

INCOMPETENT as hell--but they just now noticed this?

[CoffeeCat]

27. The question to ask is....

....why isn't Junior giving the PNAC scum everything they want?

I find this fascinating. Perle is one of the PNAC leaders. Gingrich is also, and he was on the Sunday talk shows, trying to scare everyone into WW3.

Bush is supposedly just a puppet for these neocon thugs. Why isn't he delivering them Iran as fast as they would like? It's almost as if these warmongering bastages start bad-mouthing the administration whenever Junior doesn't play war games as quickly as the PNAC plan calls for.

So, what's up with Junior? Why isn't he giving them everything they want...especially when he IS their puppet?

I sometimes think that Junior defies EVERYONE. He doesn't like anyone telling him what to do and when. He's the decider, after all.

Ya gotta wonder what's going on with Junior...and why he's not giving the neocons everything on their wish list.

[kskiska]

29. He got rid of Harriet Miers.

He wasn't the decider on that one.

[rodeodance]

42. the reality is that our Military is pretty much tied up (and broke at the

moment).





......Bush is supposedly just a puppet for these neocon thugs. Why isn't he delivering them Iran as fast as they would like? It's almost as if these warmongering bastages start bad-mouthing the administration whenever Junior doesn't play war games as quickly as the PNAC plan calls for.

So, what's up with Junior? Why isn't he giving them everything they want...especially when he IS their puppet?

I sometimes think that Junior defies EVERYONE. He doesn't like anyone telling him what to do and when. He's the decider, after all.

[Ghost Dog]

44. Poppy?

- and, apparently, top military (non-airforce) brass, some professional intelligence...

But, don't worry. Big Dick's surely still there, head down, behind the scenes doggedly pulling strings.

edit: see #38 below (Insight Magazine link is subscribers only, try BugMeNot). BTW, see also this *freeper* post/discussion from 04.23.06: Dump Cheney for Condi, Bush urged

[cliss]

45. Two words: He can't.

I have no doubt Bush would LOVE to start bombing Teheran, or maybe the Bushehr nuclear plant. Or some other targets....

But he can't do it. Why not? 2 reasons....China...Russia...a whole host of other countries who have no doubt warned him. If he tries it, he is in for a shitload of trouble. Remember about 2 months ago, when they were beating the war drums against Iran, day & night? Man, it was relentless. Things were getting.....dicey.

Then suddenly, the dollar dropped precipitously. Currency markets were screaming. Bush stopped beating the war drums. Notice how quiet it's been about Iran lately?

I believe the REAL powers warned Bush that if he tries it, he is in for a shitstorm of his worst nightmares.

[FredStembottom]

59. What about all those "leftover" nukes from the Cold War?

Does anyone here know if those have been alluded to by The Chinese and Russians?

I am so uninformed on this subject: can these aging bombs be pointed back at America? Are they even still there in working order?

If yes, have the Chinese and Russians affected the neo-con agenda by quietly pointing to their nukes?:shrug:

[cliss]

89. Good point. I hadn't thought of that.

I just have this feeling that in Bush's simplistic world, it's either Bomb Iran or have someone stop you.

It's as simple as that. If there is no one to stop you, you bomb Iran back to the Stone Age. That's what he wants. He is Shiva the Destroyer.

If he doesn't bomb them = that means that some power or force was able to stop him.

Cause it sure wasn't us.....

[FredStembottom]

98. I agree with every word you said.

And if he is stopped, it sure as hell won't be because of any politicians!

[tinfoilinfor2005]

91. Because he honestly thinks that they put him in office

because of his wisdom and intelligence. He has no idea that they wanted him for exactly the opposite reasons.

[LeftistGorilla]

30. Remember....

when they wanted her to run for president after W....

[daleo]

31. The neo-cons want someone more murderous than Rice?

Hitler and Pol Pot are dead, fellows. You will just have to make do with Ms. Rice.

[Dover]

32. These boys want action and think Condi is too soft. I suppose standing

by while Israel slaughters Lebanese citizens is just not proactive enough.

...The criticism of Miss Rice has been intense and comes from a range of Republican loyalists, including current and former aides in the Defense Department and the office of Vice President Dick Cheney. They have warned that Iran has been exploiting Miss Rice's inexperience and incompetence to accelerate its nuclear weapons program. They expect a collapse of her policy over the next few months.

"We are sending signals today that no matter how much you provoke us, no matter how viciously you describe things in public, no matter how many things you're doing with missiles and nuclear weapons, the most you'll get out of us is talk," former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said.

[rodeodance]

38. says Cheney's office critical also (not actually Cheney).

.....The criticism of Miss Rice has been intense and comes from a range of Republican loyalists, including current and former aides in the Defense Department and the office of Vice President Dick Cheney. They have warned that Iran has been exploiting Miss Rice's inexperience and incompetence to accelerate its nuclear weapons program. They expect a collapse of her policy over the next few months.

"We are sending signals today that no matter how much you provoke us, no matter how viciously you describe things in public, no matter how many things you're doing with missiles and nuclear weapons, the most you'll get out of us is talk," former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said.
#

FULL INSIGHT MAGAZINE ARTICLE AT THIS LINK

[rodeodance]

41. Condi got lots of praise for doing the diplomatic rounte with Iran--now sh

e gets dissed by these people. Seems she has Bush's ear--not these complainers.

[rodeodance]

43. Be careful of what you wish for.

[Roland99]

47. Can *I* make a wish?

:evilgrin:

[pinniped]

48. Send the hag to Devil's Island with the rest of the thugs.

.

[susu369]

49. Oh brother, and Clowndoleeza was COMPETENT

National Security Adviser????? LOL.

How Richard Perle can still get anyone's attention is mind-boggling to me. He really is the turd that will not flush.

[HuffleClaw]

51. they'll blame ANYONE but bush

but...
...there will come a day when they run out of people to blame.

[Norrin Radd]

52. There is such a thing as a competent conservative? n/t

[tanyev]

54. But...but...what about....

http://www.rice2008.com/

And right there on the front page:

Pres. Bush's penchant for handing out nicknames to those around him strikes again! And while GWB and GHWB lovingly (Yeah, right!) refer to each other as '41' and '43' respectively, White House insiders say GWB is now refering (sic) to Condi as '44'...Developing...


They aren't just drinking the Kool-Aid, they're freebasing it.

[mcscajun]

57. She's being set up as the scapegoat for failures in the Mideast

so the cons don't have to criticize Bush directly.

Plus, they get to cut her supposed candidacy off before it catches fire. THEY are in control, and they mean to make that clear.

[YankeyMCC]

58. I think we have a winner

The thing to remember is they have never held anyone accountable and it's really the administration in whole that's incompetent...all of these apparent calls for removing people is about deflection.

[patcox2]

60. Wow! Rawstory's crack reporters discovered a magazine article!

What a scoop! How dramatic!

[The Stranger]

61. She did their bidding in scuttling the ceasefire backed by the world,

and see how they show their gratitude?

[Rambis]

62. Condi is incompetent

I had someone tell me when she was appointed... "I have met with her and we talked about (He is a diplomat to country X) and she is possibly the most incompetent person I have ever met in Washington"

[PurityOfEssence]

84. Mary Tyler Moron

She's a classic mediocrity who craves attention as someone who's brilliant. Hence the overachieving and the doctorate.

As a spokesperson, she's just godawful; her quivering on the edge of tears when denying that junior had any foreknowledge of 9-11 back in May of '02 was pathetic. You could almost hear her whining "oh, Mr. Grant..."

She's scared of her own shadow and needs approval so desperately that it's embarrassing to watch.

[Dulcinea]

90. No wonder she & Boy George get along so well.

Both of them badly crave approval. The DictatorTot acts like a spoiled child, & Condi is his enabler.

And I agree that she's almost as bad of a speaker as he is, & that's really going some!

[Bridget Dooley]

64. Pretty obvious

I have noticed in the press lately that Condi seems to be ever-so-slightly revolting against the typical Bush administration line. Bush will come out and say something and Condi will say something with a bit of a more moderate voice.

This woman is by no stretch of the imagination "incompetent". She is incredibly well educated and accomplished.

I believe by "incompetent" they probably mean that she's not drinking the Koolaid anymore. This is the same thing they do to every member of their team when they decline to go with the program.

[itzamirakul]

93. Bridget, you know...I was thinking the same exact thing as what you said.

There is just no way that this woman can be relegated to the trash heap as incompetent when BushCo has filled major job positions with teenagers barely out of undergrad school. There are also some people heading up committees who have actually BOUGHT their college degrees online. There have been several newscasts about such people. She is one of the few truly brilliant people he has on staff. So, much as I dislike her, I believe in giving credit where credit is due. She earned her degrees the hard way - not the privileged way.

I am surprised that Cheney would be against her, for I understand that it was he who steered her toward amassing impressive personal wealth through the oil deals, etc. Don't forget, at one time, the neocons even had an oil tanker named after her and this was not changed until she joined the Bush administration.

I just believe, like you, that she is departing from following the neocon plan so lockstep now, because anyone with a brain can see where it is heading. They don't care how much she might have helped them in the past...to them she is expendable in the end. As are we all...

[Cerridwen]

66. So, they're separating * from his foreign policy clusterfu*%

and setting up condi as the fall gal? Yep, she's incompetent, no argument there. But they're distancing * from his role.

Interesting.

edit: can't spell this morning

[KoKo]

81. Distancing Bush from his role ....sure sounds like it. Protect the

P-Resident at ALL COSTS and if he vascillates from supporting the Neo-Cons then bring full power to blame those who "abused him."

[Cerridwen]

83. Yep, add it to the list of "bads", i.e., bad intelligence,

bad advice, bad aides, bad directors...

Defend, deflect, deny and distract.

Only damned thing he's good at.

[RCinBrooklyn]

67. But why? We need an expert on the Soviet Union as Sec of State.

[noonwitch]

70. Who are they suggesting replace her? Bolton?

She's better than anyone the neocons can come up with. I'm not a fan, necessarily, but at least she's more diplomatic than anyone the neocons like.

[goforit]

73. Who would they replace her with?

[ShortnFiery]

74. Richard Pearle ... The Prince of Darkness

Google him and PNAC ... lots of sordid details.

[Marie26]

107. Bolton

You think I'm kidding? His term is up this year.

[Miss Chybil]

75. How did she reverse anything? She is another lap-dog. nt

[ShortnFiery]

77. The VP cronies want a true "operator" in there

Condi doesn't do their bidding directly ... that's what has them miffed.

Either way the American, Israeli, Iraqi, Palestinian, and Lebanese PEOPLE are pawns in their sick f**king war games. :grr:

[BluePatriot]

82. Did anyone else read that as "incontinent?" LOL (nt)

[samsingh]

85. what about the other incompetants?

[NVMojo]

86. a circular NEOCON firing squad. wonderful news for us all!

[redqueen]

87. Condoleezza? Incompetent? You don't say!

What was their first clue?

:banghead:

[RamboLiberal]

92. So does this mean she's off the ticket in '08?

These brilliant clusterf*cks who want her out - yeah their plans for Iraq really proved out! The woman may be brilliant academically but her expertise was out of date and she doesn't have a clue as either the National Security Adviser or SofS. I'd really love to know if the rumors are true about her and Chimpy doing the nasty!

[Blue_Tires]

97. i have mixed feelings

well, for starters, we all knew she was out of her depth, but something doesn't smell right about this---I think they may be setting her up as a lightning rod for ALL the blame and scrutiny while bush, cheney, rummy, pearle and the rest soldier on

[chookie]

99. I respectfully disagree

By jingo -- she SURE is out of her depth. I don't think she's read a book since college. She was appointed by Bush to be the engineer of post-Mission-Accomplished Iraq -- and she totally fucked up -- but NO ONE holds her accountable for being a fucking idiot. (let alone being a fucking idiot who missed the obvious signs that prominent US landmarks were to be attacked by commercial aircraft in Fall of 2001. Only the threat to her beloved W as he visited G8 meeting Genoa was worthy of her concern.

They're not setting her up as a scapegoat (IMHO) -- she is doing nothing but being a a loyal NeoCon ventriloquist dummy. She brings NOTHING new to US policy towards the ME. Any person who thought she would bring "moderation" to Bush administration policy is badly mistaken....

IMHO -- they're setting up Condi for the presidency in 2008. She is the Bush Crime Family's best hope to continue their ambitions throughout the world. She is "invincible" because she is black, she is female, she is fervently pro-Israel -- therefore, anyone who dares criticize her during the campaign will be maligned as racist, anti-feminism, and anti-semitic -- and her Dem critics, as usual, will faint or roll over and pee submissively. NO ONE will have the guts to face her down.

She is an empty suit. She has no moral center -- just skill at deflection of criticism of whoever her boss happens to be. Her talent is merely in pushing the vicious agenda of old rich white men while well-dressed and coiffed. (Oh yes, and skating and playing the piano.)

What do you think is behind all her pretty smiles at these fucking photo-ops? She's posing like a super-model for the cameras -- while Muslims AND Israelis bleed and die -- in order to leave a portfolio of attractive photos to use in her (or should I say THEIR) upcoming campaign. She has a great (fictional) story that will captivate the TFMs.

No matter HOW much she fucks up, they will package her as the "decisive statesman who solved the ME problem once and for all." If we are attacked again, or the ME continues to burn, she will be marketed as "We need her now more than ever."

I am puking already about how she is going to be packaged by the media and rammed down our throats to secure her advance to the presidency to continue Bush/Cheney/NeoCon goals.

I have been critical of her all along. But the "birth pangs" bullshit and the supermodel posings while Lebanese and Israelis die have made me furious.

[Blue_Tires]

100. i know what you are saying

it's just that when bush's house of cards finally falls, i don't want his administration to be able to say "hey, we tried to do our best, but condi gave us bad advice so we're all innocent!"

[CJCRANE]

101. What these neocons

are doing is immunising her to Democratic criticism. By accusing Condi of being too diplomatic they get that meme out there (to try and cover up the fact that she is a lousy diplomat).

[Roland99]

102. Kindasleazy Lies is in Malaysia today. Uhh.....why?

Shuttle diplomacy sure doesn't have the stamina it used to have.


:eyes:

[donkeyotay]

103. Newt and Perle were among those who hijacked the country

Pot calls kettle black. Best defense is a good offense. They all belong behind bars.

[Julius Civitatus]

104. Neocons shouldn't call anybody "incompetent"

Not after their "wonderful" handling of the Iraq war.

Seriously, who are these people? What planet do they come from?

:wtf:

[yellowcanine]

105. For once I agree with Newt Gingrich and Richard Perle. Hey, did anyone

see that flying pig?

[Marie26]

...

[Marie26]

106. Then I say go Condi.

Those "critics" are mostly notorious neo-conservatives. If they're upset w/her, I have to think part of the reason is because she's standing in the way of their expansionist agenda. People have already noted the change in the attitude towards, for example, North Korea. Gingrich, etc. have suggested simply bombing the missiles before they're even tested, but the Bush Ad. has gone the diplomatic route instead. We know Cheney & the Pentagon have been wanting to go to war w/Iran for months, but it hasn't happened yet. I think that's Condi's influence. Not saying she's competent, but she isn't crazy. These days, that's enough for me.

[madmark]

108. we have malicious fuckups (perle et al) calling out a lighweight

fuckup (rice). Its too bad non-fuck ups are apparently no longer part of the equation; of course that's the result when you reelect a fuck up for president.

[calimary]

109. Kick!

Kick for the most overrated female human since Rita Clear-Your-Throat.