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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:03 AM
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Police find body of Destiny Norton (5 year old in Utah)
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 01:06 AM by bluestateguy
Eight days after 5-year-old Destiny Norton disappeared from her front yard, police discovered her body Monday night in the basement of the man who lives next door.

Craig Roger Gregerson was arrested and booked into the Salt Lake County Jail on suspicion of homicide.

After Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank made the announcement, a crowd of about 100 gathered in Destiny's neighborhood to question how the search for the 5-year-old girl could have gone so wrong, and how investigators could have missed something so close at hand. Some shouted profanity at police and reporters and wept and hugged each other.

"They told us they searched these buildings four f------ times," said Norton family spokeswoman Jeannie Hill said of police. "They did not do their jobs." The discovery capped a day of hope for Rachel and Rachael Norton, Destiny's parents. Earlier Monday, police and the FBI said they were investigating a possible sighting of Destiny at a Smith's Conoco in Farmington.

Investigators also released a composite sketch of a man reported as driving a black Dodge pickup with a girl matching Destiny's description inside.

more

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_4091323
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:06 AM
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1. Damn. Damndamndamndamndamn. My heart & prayers go
out to her family.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:08 AM
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2. Deseret News story here
Destiny Norton's body found

By Paul Foy
Associated Press Writer
Salt Lake City police officers have found the body of missing 5-year-old Destiny Norton in the basement of a home in her neighborhood and have arrested the man living there, police Chief Chris Burbank announced.
The body was found at 8:30 p.m. Monday, Burbank said
The man being held for investigation of homicide was identified as Craig Roger Gregerson.
Earlier Monday, police had issued a sketch of a man seen driving a black Dodge pickup with a girl who looked like 5-year-old Destiny Norton.
Burbank told a news conference Monday night that the leads on Gregerson and on the man in the pickup had developed at the same time, and police officials decided to go ahead with the release of the sketch.
Burbank made a statement and declined to answer any questions.
Authorities also had said earlier that they were looking for a man who went by the name "Bubble Man" at the drum circles that are a weekly Sunday event at Liberty Park.
Destiny and her parents had attended the drum circle July 16 just hours before Destiny disappeared from outside her house. She was barefoot and wearing only an adult-size black T-shirt with gray stripes.
Volunteers turned out in smaller than usual numbers Monday, a state holiday in Utah, to help search for Destiny. They handed out leaflets at the Days of '47 Parade marking the arrival of Mormon pioneers to Salt Lake Valley on July 24, 1847.
A $30,000 reward was offered for information leading to a resolution of the case.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,640197394,00.html
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reincarnated Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:16 AM
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6. Thank god they were looking for Mr. Spooky Drum Circle man! n/t
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:21 AM
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7. Just maybe, a grown man who call himself "Mr Bubbles" is
a pervert. It's possible.
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reincarnated Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:33 AM
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9. Yeah its possible.. good thing they thought of that..
and not the guy next door..
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:42 AM
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11. Maybe the guy next door put her in the basement after
they searched the place.

I'm not ttrying ot defend the guy, I'm just saying, all the facts aren't in yet. :shrug:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:28 AM
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19. Either that, or --gasp-- a hippie.
:eyes:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:30 AM
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21. Just maybe he is a guy who enjoys life also.
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 10:31 AM by uppityperson
that is possible too. Most perverts have names like (call me) Fred or Tom or Mary. Edited to say I have a hard time believing that someone on DU would be prejudiced against a person because of their nickname.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:28 AM
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15. She was only wearing an adult t-shirt?!
And barefoot? What's up with that? Unless it was covering a swimsuit, that's not appropriate. No shoes, well, I don't allow it, even though I myself used to run barefoot as a child, but we had a nice thick lawn that my parents took good care of. It sounds as if this poor child may have been neglected, which could possibly have set her up to be victimized.

Nancy Dis-Graceful was carrying on tonight about all of the registered sex offenders that lived within a three mile radius of the family, yet the guy next door, according to the article, has no record that anyone can find so far. Good thing she got so up in arms about it. He might have gotten away.:sarcasm:
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:06 AM
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18. I don't think bare feet means she was neglected
My son was out running around in the front yard with me yesterday. He was running through a neighbor's sprinkler. My son is far from neglected.

Far too often people blame the parents when something horrible happens to a child.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:40 AM
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24. I agree, but I think the poster was reacting to the T-shirt too.
It said that's all she was wearing, which means no underwear. I think some people don't come from a tradition of letting little kids run around as close to naked as possible in the summer. An adult T on a 5 year old is the equivalent of a dress in terms of coverage -- I think even my mother, back in the Stone Age, would have let us run around our own yard that way on a hot day. Heck, until we were about 9 or 10 the girls were free to discard their shirts and run around topless just like the boys.

In terms of footwear, I'm afraid my parents were as neglectful as you in the summer. When we weren't barefoot, we were wearing sandals. I HATED going back to school because I had to put on all that restrictive clothing again.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 09:53 AM
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39. And for all any of US know, she WAS wearing underpants, but no one
thought of mentioning it. Geez. How many people mention their underwear when asked what they were wearing on a particular day? I think it is quite likely that the reason it said "only an adult t-shirt" is to make clear that the child wasn't wearing shorts or pants. And, of course, on a 5 year old, an adult t-shirt would be like a dress.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:28 AM
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20. record heat for SLC
and where I live nearby...

and I never wore shoes even on 122 degree hot pavement.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:34 AM
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23. are you serious?
lots of people run around barefoot, and sounds like she had on a nice long shirt/dress with no underwear. Has our culture gotten so not putting underwear on means neglect? Or not wearing underwear is setting up to be vicitimized? Has our culture gotten so sexually odd as this?
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:47 PM
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35. Um, she was FIVE
And by the way, she got murdered, found in the basement next door. No underwear in a five year old girl is not good. It means they didn't care. The only time a kid should be without their underpants is if they are in a swimsuit or inside their own home. No way that kid should have been outside playing in an adult t-shirt and no underwear.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 09:58 AM
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40. This sounds like blame-the-victim's-parents to me.
You're making this judgment based on hardly any real info. She could have been wearing underwear, for all we know -- probably all the journalist meant was that she was wearing a t-shirt without shorts or long pants. How many people bother to mention underwear when saying what they wore?

And maybe the parents didn't even know that she wasn't wearing underwear, until her body was found that way.
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melnjones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:46 PM
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25. It would take more than
a five year old in a long T-shirt to make me suspect a kid was neglected. That's like wearing a night gown...nothing neglectful necessarily in letting a kid play in the yard in pajamas, so long as they are covering.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:20 PM
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26. The article wasn't clear
It said the family had been out just prior to the child going missing, and I guess I was wondering, did they have her out in public wearing only a grown-up's t-shirt and no shoes, or had they been home awhile? If they had her out running around that way, and yes, I was thinking she perhaps had no underwear on, that is cause for concern. This child is gone, but if there are others in the home, it wouldn't hurt to have the county look into it. Those of you who think I am judging them too harshly, well, the kid is dead, I think a few questions are in order. I'm not saying they did anything for certain to cause some scumbag to take her and kill her, but children who are neglected are better targets in the eyes of a predator.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:07 PM
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27. When my kids were small I couldn't keep
clothes on them in the summer. I'd dress them in the morning and by 9A they had shed their clothes. They grew up on a farm and ran through the hay field down 2 the creek 2 splash and play on the little beach. I was introduced once as the woman who lives on Lost Creek...the new person said 'Oh, you're the woman who lets her kids run around naked'. Had to confess, yes I'm the one. Hell, if I could have gotten away w/ it, I'd have been naked too in that heat and humidity.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:31 AM
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22. Was weary of the "green streaks in hair"
comments by the press rather than focusing on the silver caps on her teeth.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:53 PM
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36. please world, no more dead children.
thank you.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:11 AM
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3. Next door??? The very next house over?
I guess you can't search every inch of every house without a warrant, but you'd think that some extensive interviews with every single neighbor would have produced some odd behavior, some suspicions of the neighbor who did it.

If he's guilty, may he rot in hell.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:13 AM
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4. damn damn damn
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:14 AM
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5. Fuck. nt
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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:23 AM
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8. It is so sad...

I don't blame the family and friends for being upset. If I am following all this right, the little girl was possibly seen yesterday afternoon alive. I know the police and FBI did all they could legally to search for her, but as a parent, it sure would be hard to understand that given the outcome.

Trudy
www.pryorsplanet.com

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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:35 AM
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10. Seen yesterday alive? I don't think so...Most likely, the sighting
in the black pickup was a false sighting. The gas station attendant thought he saw Destiny, but it probably wasn't her.

I can't imagine a killer would have her out in plain sight in a truck, 20 miles north of Salt Lake, and would then bring her back--alive--next door to her own house where half the police department has been for the past week.

No, sadly, she probably died the same day she disappeared. That's they way these things often go.

I don't know, though...this is all my supposition.
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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:54 AM
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13. I could have read that wrong...
I thought the gas station attendant had been after the police to keep checking because he/she was so sure that it was Destiny they saw on the 23rd. Even after they had posted and then cancelled the Amber alert.

Either way it is sad...The only thing to hope for now is that the guy confesses and saves the family from the ordeal of a trial.

Trudy
www.pryorsplanet.com
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:04 AM
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14. I dunno. You could be right. Details are very sketchy and sparse.
More than likely, though, the gas station attendant saw what he/she wanted to see. Our eyes often play tricks on us.

Who knows? Maybe this next-door neighbor has a black pickup.

We'll see.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:27 AM
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16. oh no... how awful...
There aren't words... how could somebody hurt a little child like this?
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:51 AM
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17. disturbing news
My condolences go out to the Norton family.
I'm sorry this came to such a tragic ending.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:16 PM
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28. 350 convicted sex offenders...
...lived within a 3 mile radius of this little girl.

Until this nation begins to take seriously, the epidemic of child sex abuse in this country--cases like these will continue to increase.

In addition--since most child sex perpetrators are someone very close to the child (father, stepfather, grandfather), we will also continue to see the crippling and debilitating effects of sexual abuse on children as they grow into adulthood and cannot function.

One in four girls is sexually abuse before the age of 18. One in seven boys is sexually abused before the age of 18. There are wolves among us, and they are stealing the soul of this nation, as they masquerade as regular folks.

I'm so sorry for this family. It's just heartbreaking.

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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:23 PM
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29. Actually, reported case of child sex abuse are on the decline.
Here's what the Justice Department has to say about it:

http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/199298.pdf

I think it is the nationwide publicity about what are really local-interest child sex crime stories that lead people to the mistaken impression we are facing an "epidemic" of such crimes. Nancy Grace, Greta van Susteren, and the like share the responsibility for this with their constant harping on the crime du jour.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:22 PM
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30. With all due respect, you are incorrect...
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 03:31 PM by TwoSparkles
Repeatedly, studies have shown that ONE IN FOUR FEMALES and ONE IN SEVEN MALES is sexually abused before the age of 18. This statistic has been found over and over again and has remained consistent for more than 3 decades.

Furthermore, the article that you provided states that there is no conclusive cause for the declining numbers OF CASES OF SEXUAL ABUSE REPORTED TO CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES. This article does not state that child sex abuse is on the decline--it states, as the headline says, that the number of CASES REPORTED are declining.

In addition---most REPORTED sexual abuse are cases in which the perpetrator is a neighbor, stranger or someone outside the home. It is critical to understand that the vast majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by SOMEONE INSIDE THE HOME (father, stepfather, grandfather, etc) AND MOST CHILDREN DO NOT TELL; 90 PERCENT OF THESE CASES GO UNREPORTED. These children are victims of horrendously dysfunctional families--in many cases the mother is mentally ill or a sexual-abuse victim--still in denial about her own pain .

It's entirely possible that the number of stranger/acquaintance sexual abuse is on the decline because of community education and the sexual offender registry. However, child sexual abuse perpetrated in the home, by a very close relative--IS NOT ON THE DECLINE. The statistics have remained constant for years.

Stranger child sex abuse and stranger abductions (like the Elizabeth Smart case) are horrendous and tragic. However, in the majority of these cases where the child survives--she is given support, therapy, validation and love. Healing happens. When a child is raped for years by her own father or grandfather--he/she suffers as the perpetrator traumatizes her/him as a silencing technique. The victim doesn't ever tell or get help--because the adults around her/him are either molesters or enablers. Children in these situations have NO ONE TO TELL---and NO ONE TO REPORT TO.

I do agree---it's possible that THE NUMBER OF REPORTED CASES--might have decreased. However, the number of REPORTED CASES has literally nothing to do with the EPIDEMIC (yes, epidemic) of sexual abuse that happens to children in their own bedrooms.

I do agree with you that Nancy Grace and others sensationalize these crimes. They feature these crimes a great deal on their shows. Spotlighting abduction and stranger sex abuse---while ignoring what fathers/stepfathers/grandfathers are doing to 25 percent of America's children--allows society to remain in denial about the true problem.

Most people do not want to face the fact that at least 25 percent of the little girls on their block---or 15 percent of the boys in every third-grade class--are being sexually abused by the neighbor they trust, the co-worker in the next cubicle or the salesman down the street. We want to believe that the molester is "somewhere out there"--scouting the parks and wearing a dark raincoat.

There are monsters inside many homes--ON EVERY BLOCK. The sooner society emerges out of denial about this fact---the easier it will be for these children to break their prison of silence--which only helps the perpetrator.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:14 PM
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31. Try reading the link.
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zuzu98 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:32 PM
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34. links?
Do you have any links to these studies with the statistics you cite?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:34 PM
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37. Statistics...
I've read a great deal about sexual abuse--during my own journey of recovering from childhood sexual abuse. Here are some stats that I found off the Web. There are hundreds of studies that echo the "1 in 4 girls, 1 in 6 boys" statistics. As many of these studies indicate, it may be impossible to know the precise statistics, because sexual abuse is underreported for numerous reasons. Even if the statistics are 1 in 10 girls and one in 20 boys...that's extremely high.

I've read more than 100 books on childhood sexual abuse and its effect on survivors. I'm certainly no expert but the "one in four" statistic is consistently repeated in hundreds of studies. Here are some citations I found in ten minutes. They might not answer all of your questions or back up everything I said, but they do give you some general stats that are out there currently.

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A.) A 1984 study found that one in four Canadian women will be sexually assaulted during her lifetime. Half of these assaults will be against women under the age of 16. -Study from: Statistics Canada, 1993.

B.) The National Resource Council estimates the percent of the U.S. population which has been sexually abused to range from a low of 20-24 percent to a high of 54-62 percent of the population; the higher estimate includes sexualized exposure without touching, such as masturbating in front of the child.1 The largest retrospective study on the prevalence of child sexual abuse found 27 percent of women and 16 percent of men reported abuse.---The National Resource Center on Child Sexual Abuse, "Fact Sheet on Child Sexual Abuse," Huntsville: NRCCSA, 1994.

C.) One in three girls and one in six boys are sexually abused before the age of 18. Source: Russell, Diana E.H. 1988. The Incidence and Prevalence of Intrafamilial and Extrafamilial Sexual Abuse of Female Children. In Handbook on Sexual Abuse of Children, ed., Lenore E.A. Walker. Springer Publishing Co.

D.) In 2001, clinical child psychologist Wade F. Horn reported on the work of researchers at Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health. The researchers found that nearly 20 percent of low-income women, recruited through family planning, obstetrical or gynecological clinics, had experienced child sexual abuse.

E. A 1985 Los Angeles Times nationwide poll found that 27% of female respondents and 16% of male ones had been sexually abused.

F. Sexual Abuse And Incest -- 20% to 25% of all children; one female in four and one male in eight in FBI statistics;

G.) A 1996 national incidence study conducted by the federal government found that girls are sexually abused three times more often than boys. Retrospective surveys reveal great variation, but do support the estimate that at least 20% of American women and 5% to 16% of American men experienced some form of sexual abuse as children. In a national survey of over 1,200 adults, victimization was reported by 27% of the females and 16% of the males.

H.) In a study by the U.S. Centers for Disease control of 5,000 college students at over 100 colleges, 20% of women answered “yes” to the question “In your lifetime have you been forced to submit to sexual intercourse against your will?” Thus, one in five college women has been raped at some point in her lifetime. (2)

I.) Objective: To ascertain the prevalence of childhood sexual abuse (CSA) in a community sample of Australian women. Design: Retrospective study, done in 1994, of cross-sectional data on the prevalence of CSA, collected as part of a larger two-stage case-control study of the possible relationship between CSA and alcohol abuse. Data were appropriately weighted to adjust for the different selection probabilities of cases and controls.
Participants: 710 Women randomly selected from Australian federal electoral rolls.
Results: One hundred and forty-four women (20%) had experienced CSA.

In 14 of these 144 women (10%), the abuse involved either vaginal or anal intercourse (i.e., 2% of the sample population experienced such abuse).

The mean age at first episode of CSA was 10 years, and most (71%) of the women were aged under 12 years at the time.

Perpetrators of the abuse were usually male (98%) and usually known to the child; 41% were relatives.

The mean age of abusers was 34 years, with a median age difference of 24 years from that of the abused individual.

Only 10% of CSA experiences were ever reported to the police, a doctor or a helping agency (e.g., community organisations, such as sexual assault services).

J.) Until the early 1970's child sexual abuse was thought to be rare, and centered among the poor. Experts now agree that child sexual abuse has always occurred and still exists in all socio-economic groups. Increased public awareness has led to greater reporting; from 1970 to 1990, child sexual abuse reports increased more than other categories of neglect or abuse.1 Despite this gain, child sexual abuse still remains vastly under-reported.--- National Research Council, Understanding Child Abuse Neglect, Washington, DC: National Academy Press, 1993.

K.) A study in three states found 96 percent of reported rape survivors under age 12 knew the attacker. Four percent of the offenders were strangers, 20 percent were fathers 16 percent were relatives and 50 percent were acquaintances or friends. Among women 18 or older, 12 percent were raped by a family member, 33 percent by a stranger and 55 percent by an acquaintance.---Patrick Langan and Caroline Wolf Harlow, "Child Rape Victims, 1992," Crime Data Brief, U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1994.

L.) Estimates of child sexual abuse rates vary for many reasons. Less than 10 percent of set abuse is reported to the police.--David Finkelhor, Gerald Hotaling and Kerti Yllo, Stopping Family Violence: Research Priorities in the Coming Decade. Newbury Park: Sage Publications, 1988.

M. The extent of incest and childhood sexual abuse is difficult to measure because of lack of reporting and lack of memory. One study in which adults were asked to report on past incidents found that one in four girls and one in ten boys experienced sexual abuse. Source: Boston Women's Health Book Collective

N.) WASHINGTON, April 20 /PRNewswire/ -- One out of every three adults in the United States -- and nearly one out of every four teenagers -- personally knows someone who was sexually abused as a child or teenager, according to a new national survey released today by the Center for Child Protection and Family Support.---SOURCE Center for Child Protection and Family Support

O.) Contrary to the belief that rapists are hiding in the bushes or in the shadows of the parking garage, almost two-thirds of all rapes were committed by someone who is known to the victim. 67% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger – 47% of perpetrators were a friend or acquaintance of the victim, 17% were an intimate and 3% were another relative.
National Crime Victimization Survey, 2004






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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:18 PM
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32. Guys like this just need to be shot.
Why bother with a trial? Fuck it!
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:24 PM
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33. There are no words.
I've lost a child, but not to violence. I cannot imagine what her parents are going through right now... what the mothers and fathers on the police force are going through... what the neighbors are going through... what the other children are going through...

and all of this says nothing of what Destiny herself must have gone through.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 09:15 AM
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38. Cornfield...
I just wanted to say that I am very sorry for the loss of your child. Although I haven't lost a child, I am a mother and I am sending loads of support and light your way.

:)
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