Final arguments set in sexual misconduct case (polygamist fundie)

[NVMojo]

KINGMAN, Ariz. -- Attorneys will present closing arguments today in the trial of a Colorado City man charged with sex offenses involving an underage wife assigned to him through the polygamy-practicing Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Kelly Fischer, 38, is the first of eight similarly charged Colorado City members of the breakaway Mormon sect to stand trial in Mohave County Superior Court.Advertisement


He is charged with sexual misconduct with a minor and conspiracy to commit sexual misconduct with a minor, offenses punishable by up to two years in prison.

County attorney Matt Smith told jurors Thursday that Fischer was already legally married when he took 16-year-old Jenny Steed as a "celestial bride" about six years ago. Smith introduced birth certificates and hospital records to demonstrate that the church-sanctioned union led to sexual relations and that Fischer was the father of the child Steed bore on Aug. 13, 2001.

more ...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jul-07-Fri-2006/news/8369668.html

and a site to help child brides of these fundies:

http://helpthechildbrides.com/llewellyn.htm

[rayofreason]

1. Why not..

..use this story as the plotline for a new HBO show combining the best of Oz and Big Love?

[NVMojo]

2. I'm beginning to wonder if the story lines are from real life ...

I think the whole polygamy thing must be bigger than the average American realizes ...

[rayofreason]

3. And the whole mortician thing...

...for Six Feet Under fans.

[DURHAM D]

4. Absolutely - I once lived in a town in southern Idaho that was

founded by former LDSers. It was a real eye-opener regarding the number of polygamist marriages and the church's involvement in covering up same.

[NVMojo]

5. I never thought of it as "merchandising women" ...

2. Should the practice of polygamy be decriminalized?

There is a political movement underway, headed by pro-polygamists and libertarians, hoping to eventually persuade the Utah State Legislature to decriminalize the practice of plural marriage. This ad hoc movement plans to use the 2002 Olympic Games to promote their cause. Should polygamy in Utah be decriminalized?



YES, if engaged in by consenting adults. In my opinion it is hypocritical to tolerate or condone homosexuality between consenting adults and not polygamy. By accepting homosexuality, society is accepting the love-making practices of homosexuals -- buggery, fellatio, sodomy, mutual masturbation. If this type of behavior is not outrageous, why should the normal heterosexual habits of polygamists be outrageous? In a society where $10 billion is spent annually on pornography, where mistresses are common-place, and extra-marital affairs are even more common, it seems ridiculous by today's liberal standards that adult-consenting polygamy should be made a crime.



NO, unless polygamy can be "de-Mormonized." It is the feigned priesthood authority that is the primary source of abuse among Mormon fundamentalists. The Mormon concept of polygamy elevates one man above all the rest and subjugates the woman. The prophet is the greatest of all, a religious despot who controls the giving and taking of wives. Mormon fundamentalists believe that "plural marriage" is a commandment of God, that once the "principle" is revealed, those who refuse to live it, will be damned. They argue that plural marriage is the only conduit to a celestial exaltation and in their pious rhetoric attempt to abrogate any erotic connotation to the practice of plural marriage. They say polygamy is for procreation, the raising up of a righteous seed, the making of a progeny superior to those born under monogamy -- and that lust -- has nothing to do with it. The despot, the prophet, seer and revelator, the one who claims to be the only man on earth with the authority to speak for God, offers celestial exaltation and the license to take plural wives in exchange for ten percent of the man's gross income. However, if the man is found to be out of harmony with the prophet, his plural wife is taken away and given to another. In essence, the woman is married to the prophet's priesthood, not her husband. It is an extremely lucrative wife-selling business, in fact, a million dollar business. If you take away the pious rhetoric, Utah polygamy among the organized groups is the merchandising of willing women.

http://helpthechildbrides.com/llewellyn.htm

[fasttense]

8. So how come if the Mormon church thinks polygamy is so great,

they don't allow women to have multiple husbands? The truth is their form of polygamy is about abusing young girls. It's not about having a family or taking care of it. They normally have more than ten children and are on some sort of welfare because they can't afford to raise all those children and child brides. The whole thing is set up so fat, old, bald, white men can have 15 and 16 year old girls. In the normal scheme of things young girls want young boys as lovers. What 15 or 16 year old girl fantasizes over an old man? When I look at the photos of men girls fantasizes about, they don't include fat, old, bald, white men, no matter how powerful they are. This whole thing is set up so powerful old men can have pretty young girls. So what happens to the girl when she turns forty?

[blondeatlast]

9. Self-delete; replied in the wrong place. nt

[pansypoo53219]

6. the morman getting young girls married

ain'ty much different from arab/african forced marriages of preteens.

[oneold1-4u]

7. You found the big KEY

The LDS Church does not and never has followed the laws set down for the state of Utah to be admitted in the Union. They did put it into words, but never ended it, and still sanction plural marriage in many underhanded ways and legitimize births. Examples are taking in sisters and cousins and even step daughters and their children. Every male is more accepted by the greater number of his progeny!

[blondeatlast]

10. Welfare fraud, statutory rape, tax fraud, illegal weapons, and northern AZ

officials barely take notice because the Colorado City subculture is so powerful. I hope he gets in prison what he gave to those GIRLS he calls wives.

There is no "consent" involved in this form of polygamy. These are children being given up to adult males; even some of the young men of Colorado City are balking at the culture and bolting every chance they get.

If adult males want to take 100+ consenting adult women (or the reverse) as spouses, fine and dandy with me.

But children being given against their will to adults? No effing way, especially when my tax dollars subsidize this child prostitution.

Not to mention, as an Arizona taxpayer, I am incensed at the massive welfare fraud being perpetrated by Colorado City residents.

Arizona journalist Jana Bommersbach has written some outstanding articles about the dirty subculture that is Colorado City:
http://www.janabommersbach.com/pm-fea-may04.htm
http://www.janabommersbach.com/pm-fea-july05.htm

Rot in prison, lowlife bastard. I'm already paying for you to live, I'd rather you lived (and died) in prison.

[Tansy_Gold]

11. Many of the young men are removed from the community

before they can provide viable competition for brides.

That's another part of the story.

And this is not directed at blondeatlast, because I know she's fairly familiar with this whole situation, but for those who think it's collusion on the part of AZ state officials, please understand that the Arizona Strip (Hildale, UT and Colorado City, AZ) is a geographically isolated area. That's one of the reasons the FLDS chose to settle there. Because they control ALL local law enforcement, it's up to state and/or county officials to intervene, and physically it's just very difficult.

Most Mormons, like most of any other group, are pretty decent people. What's happened here is that a bunch of slimebuckets have sought moral refuge in a church of their own making. I'm not holding the main LDS apparatus blameless, but the FLDS is not the same as LDS. (That said, I have no love for LDS doctrine AT ALL.)