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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:02 PM
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Iraq insurgents want U.S. out in 2 years

http://www.localnewsleader.com/kindred/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=198675

Iraq insurgents want U.S. out in 2 years

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents are demanding the withdrawal of all U.S. and British forces from Iraq within two years as a condition for joining reconciliation talks, a senior Iraqi government official said Wednesday.

...

Iraqi government officials involved with the contacts with insurgents told The Associated Press that several militant groups sent delegates from their regions and tribes to speak on their behalf.

The official said the insurgents have demanded a two-year "timetable for withdrawal" in return for joining Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki‘s bid for national reconciliation.

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Key Iraqi lawmakers have said that seven insurgent groups — not including al-Qaida or Islamic terror groups but mostly made up of former members or backers of Saddam Hussein ‘s ousted regime — had offered the government a conditional truce.

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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:05 PM
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1. Hold on. 2006+2 years.......wait, that's 2008, what an interesting
timetable to pick.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:06 PM
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2. Yeah, right.
They want us to wait 2 years before leaving. right. :eyes:

No, dumb ass. It's the pro-american factions that want us out within 2 years. (I'm not referring to you, Sabra. :))
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:52 PM
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20. I think the insurgents are trying to be realistic
They know immediate withdrawal demands will be met with silence.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:08 PM
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3. I'd agree; even sooner would be better
than later

MURTHA WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!!!
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:39 PM
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11. Not quite "ALL ALONG"
he voted for war in the first place.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:11 PM
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4. I do not believe that at all.
Two years? 30 days I would believe, not two years. That story is bullshit on the face of it.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:16 PM
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5. Talk to South Korea, Japan, Germany and many others
I'm sure they'd assure you that they too want U.S. out in 2 years.
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:52 PM
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6. Now wait a minute
We can't have a debate in our Congress about a time table, but "insurgents" who are firing on our troops as we speak can demand one. Talk about surrendering.

AValdoux
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:08 PM
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7. We Don't Negotiate with Terrorists
I don't give a shit that you want us to stick around for two more years....We're pulling our "effing" troops out now!!!

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:08 PM
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16. Except when it's in our best interests. I seem to recall
the recent amnesty issue for terrorists rearing its ugly head. Would that not be negotiating with terrorists?
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:39 PM
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8. AP: Iraq insurgents offer to stop attacks
By STEVEN R. HURST and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writers 10 minutes ago


BAGHDAD, Iraq - Eleven Sunni insurgent groups have offered to halt attacks on the U.S.-led military if the Iraqi government and President Bush set a two-year timetable for withdrawing all foreign troops from the country, insurgent and government officials told The Associated Press on Wednesday.


The demand is part of a broad offer from the groups, who operate north of Baghdad in the heavily Sunni Arab provinces of Salahuddin and Diyala. Although much of the fighting has been to the west, those provinces have become increasingly violent and the attacks there have regularly crippled oil and commerce routes.


The groups do not include the powerful Islamic Army in Iraq, Muhammad Army and the Mujahedeen Shura Council, the umbrella label for eight militant groups including al-Qaida in Iraq. But the new offer comes at a time when Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's government is reaching out to militant Sunnis, including a new amnesty plan for insurgent fighters.


Al-Maliki, in remarks broadcast on national television Wednesday, did not issue an outright rejection of the timetable demand but said it was unrealistic because he could not be certain when the Iraqi army and police would be strong enough to assume full responsibility for the country's security.


A bit more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060628/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_insurgent_offer;_ylt=Auzuo7uPqLCBqkf9wtGdnJ2s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:39 PM
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9. Is The AWOL/moron dumb enough to turn this down? Afterall,....
all you have to do is .... SAY... you want this deal and set a timetable. If the fighting continues we are in the same place we are now.

So let us see how stupid this moron is. He's made every wrong decision anyone could make already.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:39 PM
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10. Ooh, between a rock and a hard spot? Do they want war
or do they want peace? If it's peace, now's the time to prove it. Two years seems a sufficient amount of time for the Iraqis to get their ducks in a row.
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mike923 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:53 PM
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12. The scary thing is....
what if they do achieve peace?
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:02 PM
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14. I don't get it--
why would it be scary if "they achieved peace"? Why wouldn't peace be a good thing?
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mike923 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:21 PM
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17. If there is lasting peace in Iraq, what does that do to Bush's legacy?
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:51 PM
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19. If people shit quarters, would we still need slot machines?
The more revealing question is, if suddenly ALL the insurgents--as opposed to a few factions in one region of Iraq--offered to stop blowing shit up in exchange for a quick, complete and permanent exit by American troops, would Bush take them up on it? My guess is that he'd find numerous (and entirely bogus) rationales for refusing to do so, because the real reason we're there isn't about the insurgency, inconvenient as all those car bombs are. It's about the oil. If we were really serious about invading a country with WMD's and an evil dictator in order to make America more secure and bring God's gift of liberty to an oppressed people, we'd have invaded North Korea or Iran. No?
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 08:40 AM
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25. How about Pakistan?
They've got a dictator and proven nukes, unlike Kim Jong-il who just claims he has them
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:24 PM
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26. Right. And they've been selling nuke technology to the highest
bidding Islamicist. And harboring the terrorists who knocked down the WTC.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:06 PM
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15. Peace would be just fine with me; no more bloodshed of
Americans, coalition forces, or Iraqis is what my ultimate dream is made of.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 02:56 PM
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13. If the Insurgency stopped attacks on the US/UK
Troops and Mercs, also other Iraqis, why would the US need 130K Troops plus 20K Mercs in Iraq? Seems that only the al Q Faction would be needed to be rooted out.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 07:17 PM
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24. The difference in titles is amazing.
#1.) Insurgents are demanding the withdrawal of all U.S. and British forces from Iraq within two years...

#2.) Iraq insurgents offer to stop attacks

The second one is the one that caught my eye. I didn't see the first until I did a search here at DU.
Sounds like a great offer, if in fact it is an offer but it doesn't include:

"The groups do not include the powerful Islamic Army in Iraq, Muhammad Army and the Mujahedeen
Shura Council, the umbrella label for eight militant groups including al-Qaida in Iraq."


I seriously doubt bush and criminal's INC. will go for this. Maybe they planted this story?

If they are really willing to stop attacking, I say that's a good thing but I'll believe it when it stops!

:shrug:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:48 PM
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18. Hah. We don't cut and run. *W* says he'll do as he sees fit
Take that, you ignorant insurgent fool.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 03:52 PM
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21. You mean Iraqi "patriots"
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ktlyon Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:55 PM
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22. Could Bush and the neocons give up permanent bases
or are they ready to end and pull out?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 05:58 PM
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23. See! The Democrats and the "terrorists" are on the same side!
How convenient that they are calling for a time line. This story stinks all the way up to Olympus.
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