Reid, his church agree to disagree on amendment (gay marriage ban)

[NVMojo]

The GOP/Bush asshats are so damn clever. With all the problems going on with this country, they deal on issues that make Dems like Reid look bad with the media whores and one of the last red states still showing a 50% approval rating for Bush ...the bastards are clever.

June 4, 2006

Disagreement over a proposed constitutional amendment banning gay marriage doesn't mean Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., is at odds with his church over the issues behind the amendment, a Reid spokesman said Saturday.

Reid, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, will vote this week against a resolution calling for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, said Jim Manley, a spokesman for the senator.

The church, however, supports the proposal and issued a statement on May 26 calling on its members to contact their senators and voice support for the measure.

The U.S. Senate is expected to vote this week on the resolution to amend the Constitution. The amendment would define marriage as between a man and a woman.

more...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jun-04-Sun-2006/news/7775064.html

[ixion]

1. so has The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints started paying

taxes?

If they're going to be political, they ought pay taxes, too.

[NVMojo]

2. good point! They NEED to pay taxes anyways. greed rules

[Freddie Stubbs]

21. As long as they are not supporting or opposing candidates,

(or political parties), they are free to keep their tax exempt status. The power to tax is the power to destroy. If the government started doing this, who do you think it would go after first? The Mormons? Or the Quakers and Unitarians? Be careful what you with for.

[NVMojo]

24. All Bush fundie church supporters should pay taxes. I EEOC on the issue!

[Freddie Stubbs]

27. Do you beleive that the government would fairly enforce such a law

with regards to Quakers, Unitarians, and African-American chruches?

[msongs]

3. they could start by giving utah back to the native americans nt

[CatholicEdHead]

4. Another sign of the GOP pushing Theological Correctness

They do this across the board no mater which religion/denomination, every non-Athiest public offical has to listen without question to what their religious leader says and apparently nothing else matters. :puke:

[Solo_in_MD]

5. Mormons are much more hierarchical and disciplined when

it comes to doing what the church says than any other Christian oriented group. Much more so than Catholics or fundies.

[Divine Discontent]

6. my friend

is a LDS. and I agree, she follows whatever they say to do... she doesn't know I'm of "that" persuasion, if I talk to her again off in neverland of UT, I'll probably tell her... that ought to seal my connection with her... ha...

IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY YOU'RE BEHIND A PARTICULAR BILL OR AMMENDMENT AS A CHURCH, THEN YOU ARE A POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE AND NOT JUST A 'CHURCH' ANYMORE!


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[Solo_in_MD]

7. Remember that the root of black politics

is the church, as is so clearly seen during presidential elections. It will bite both sides.

[Ian David]

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[LeftyMom]

22. Except *

He's UMC I think and they were against the invasion of Iraq. Funny how that never comes up on the news but the press goes apeshit on pro-choice Catholic politicians (unless they're Republican.)

[whalerider55]

9. They've asked Reid to sponsor an amendment to the amendment

defining marriage as the union of a man and several women.


whalerider

[Moderator]

10. kick

[NVMojo]

11. Critics say Reid inconsistent: Senator's stance on gay marriage attacked

The subheadline should actually read "Senator attacked again"

June 6, 2006

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid is against gay marriage. He's also against banning gay marriage in the U.S. Constitution.

Reid, D-Nev., says that stance makes sense and is not an attempt to have it both ways, but he has come under fire from those who say his position on the issue is at odds with his constituency.

In a speech on the floor of the Senate on Monday, Reid said he believes marriage should be between one man and one woman and noted that he supported the ban on same-sex marriage in the Nevada Constitution and the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. But he said he did not believe amending the U.S. Constitution was necessary.

"I believe in our federal system of government, described to me in college as a central whole divided among self-governing parts," Reid said, according to his prepared remarks. "Those self governing parts -- the 50 states -- have already decided this on their own in state after state," including Nevada.

more...

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Jun-06-Tue-2006/news/7799387.html

[msongs]

12. many in his "constituency" also support having 10 wives nt

[NVMojo]

15. ...and he knows it. Can't say I know if he approves of polygamy. I

would think that he does not.

[stepnw1f]

13. NVMojo? DO You Not Like Reid?

What is your opinion of the man? And are you from NV as your name suggests?

[NVMojo]

14. the local Democratic leader, whom I have zero respect for, says ...

"Reid may be a bastard, but he's our bastard."

I agree with about 80% of what Reid does, that's not all that bad since he is just a human being and not a GOD.

I also believe he needs to be careful and fine tune the eyes on the back of his head as it is only obvious the GOP is gunning for him. I keep waiting for headlines that read "Reid caught passing gas while being human".

[stepnw1f]

16. He Seems Ok To Me

I'd like better. It just seems he gets blasted alot from the media lately. I guess being in the position he is in makes him a large target. He does need to be careful.

[NVMojo]

17. just think, Reid and us Dems were frothing at the mouth when DeLay

went down. We have to expect a backlash.

I do wish for better too sometimes.

I know too many stories involving Reid and personal interests.

[RCinBrooklyn]

18. Reid needs to be replaced as Minority Leader ASAP!

[David__77]

19. It is a wrong position.

The Democratic bigwigs cannot keep this "anti-gay, pro-gay" position forever.

[zbdent]

20. Maybe Reid should submit legislation to outlaw divorce in Nevada

that should "quell" the reichies . . . and take away half the "marriage" business in Vegas . . .

[GoddessOfGuinness]

23. Where is the Democratic Rep with the guts to state the obvious?

The government has no business defining marriage. Leave it to churches and individuals; and recognize all civil unions.

[demo dutch]

25. Why are the Dems always playing into the Repugs cards!!!

[brentspeak]

26. What are you talking about?