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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:57 PM
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Local Stations Run Out Of Gasoline (PA, NJ, DE)
http://www.nbc10.com/news/8847571/detail.html

Gas stations in three East Coast states ran out of fuel on Thursday as gas prices soared. Shortages were reported in Delaware, New Jersey and Pennsylvania on Thursday afternoon. They could last as long as 30 days.

NBC 10 was live at one gas station when the pumps went dry at rush hour.

An NBC 10 news team was at a Wilmington, Del., gas station on Thursday afternoon, where reporter Bill Baldini informed drivers pulling up to the pumps that the station was on empty.

Closer to home for NBC10.com, a Luk Oil station just blocks from our station was out of gas as news trucks hit the street to report the Thursday afternoon news. Stations on the Admiral Wilson Boulevard in New Jersey and in several Pennsylvania areas are also out of fuel, or only selling premium fuel, AAA told NBC 10.

<snip>

By temporary, AAA and other experts said the shortage situation could be for as long as 30 days. The news was unwelcome to drivers who saw a big jump at the gas pumps overnight. On Thursday morning, NBC 10 reported that prices at some local gas stations had hit $3 per gallon.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:59 PM
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1. It Will Get People Out In The Streets, I Guess
They will march when they can't drive--and then watch out, BushCo!
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:56 AM
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45. Enron didn't get people out in the streets and neither will this.
The same scene as Enron, the oil companies don't give a shit about you so keep jacking up the price until the Government stops them. When we have two oil Men running the White House do you think the Government will stop them.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:02 PM
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46. Are you kidding?That would require them to actually walk. nt
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 06:59 PM
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2. Thank God we have oil men running our government
I am sure they will come to our rescue
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:09 PM
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12. Sure glad our citizens are so intuitive. /sarcasm
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:01 PM
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3. No valid reason for this. Bush should release some of our oil reserves.
How could this happen without warning? This is NOT yet peak driving season. I have a similar question about the rolling blackouts in Houston. So the weather was in the 90's? That's nothing new for Texas. WE NEED LOTS MORE SERIOUS GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS and enforcement of those regulations! By career civil servants, not Bush's hack political appointees.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:03 PM
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5. Bush should ban SUVs and Humvees!
and all cars/truck/etc. that don't get at least 25 MPG highway IMO. This could easily solve the problem IF they'd drop the speed limit to 55 mph.

:dem: :kick:
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Jayhawk Lib Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:53 PM
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25. How about private aircraft
that the rich and famous use. Some of those rich and famous fly around in private jets and bitch about suvs. A private jet uses about 10 times as much fuel as a Hummer. Most of those rich and famous are nothing but hypocrites.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:56 PM
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27. Bush should be banned, while you're at it.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:58 PM
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28. I won't argue that point!
:D :D :D :D :D :toast:

:dem: :kick:
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:04 PM
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29. That speed limit thing is pure crap
It depends on the car. I have a 6 speed manual transmission. In 6th gear I have enough torque to adapt to road elevation changes, pass, etc plus I'm going about 80MPH. Cruising on the highway like this I get around 25MPG, which is actually above what the EPA estimate is for highway driving on my car. Not to mention my car has 150000+ miles on it and is 10 years old.


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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:08 PM
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11. No the oil companies whould stop holding it back
This is total BS, especially for mid April after a mild winter.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:02 PM
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4. Yippee! I'm traveling across PA tomorrow on I-80
I hope there's some fuel left in Ohio for me when I get there.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:14 PM
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37. I'm from PA
and you must keep in mind what my father drilled into my head as I began driving two hundred thousand years ago:

"There is only one difference between the Gestapo and the Pennsylvania State Police, and that is that one is out of business."

Be safe.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:03 PM
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6. Let the looting begin!
Pitchfork, check.
Torch, check.
Tar and feathers, check. :eyes:
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:58 PM
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32. You, and about
288 million other Americans. I have NO doubt, this is going to push Americans over the edge.

It's been proven before: every time the price of gas goes up, Bush's ratings go down. It's an inverse relationship.

And now?

I can easily see things starting to spin out of control. The timing couldn't be worse: right before the driving season, before prices typically go up anyway.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:15 PM
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38. Nuclear-powered nailgun - check
LeftieLawyer - check.

I'm in.
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:04 PM
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7. Here in N.C. some pumps are empty esp at cheaper stations
Several people I know have filled up all of their vehicles because they expect prices to skyrocket even more.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:05 PM
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8. I remember someone posting about this
the other day. Tried to get gas in jersey and all the pumps were bagged.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:59 PM
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33. all those refineries in Jersey....
and they have no gas? DHS is rounding up people, there's no gas, and two guys in a semi, with a half-million in a duffel bag, go to a nuclear plant to buy tools...
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:06 PM
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9. Something smells very bad with this story!
There's been NO warnings of shortages, in face YESTERDAY the report was that all the pipelines were full and so are all the storage tanks. Oil companies were being quesitoned about deliberately price gouging when there is no shortage...at least not in the short term.

Are the station owners or the distributors into the areas mentioned just trying to put a scare into those complaining about the $3.00????
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:08 PM
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10. It would work
If I thought I couldn't get gas in a day or two, I'd sure rush down and pay whatever at the pump.

I mean, not me personally, since I don't need any. But you get the idea.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:32 PM
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19. I know it would, and thats what scares me!
I sure hope somebody in Congress gets those hearings "under oath this time" to put these AH's on the spot and cough up some straight answers!
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PublicWrath Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:30 PM
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16. US refineries have reduced production....... n/t
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:52 PM
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24. yeah, i don't see the chain of causation. how do you get from
"the price went up" to therefore "we ran out"

why they ran out shouldn't have anything to do with the price. people don't look up and say, 'shit -- it's $3 bucks a gallon, better get some extra."
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:09 PM
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13. Fake shortage.
As cover for price gouging.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:12 PM
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15. Of course.
If I were a Republican congresscritter, I would be seeing my doctor about these palpitations, and nightsweats, and the unaccountable trembling in my hands.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:36 PM
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21. Exactly - this story is being reported every day at the top
of local news, sometimes national news. And you know it's watercooler and lunch room talk. Now shortages on top of it all. Remember this some part of what cost Carter a 2nd term.

Americans are getting pissed and I'm hoping they take it out on the Repukes in the fall.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:15 AM
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43. Funny, I was thinking about Carter this morning.
If this were going on under his era, he would have asked businesses to close earlier, let their employees work from home, ask people to limit driving, turn off lights, etc. This idjit in the white house just says "he's concerned".
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:31 PM
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18. thank you...
you've nailed it

and welcome to the site, btw!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:43 PM
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22. Yep. Stations "selected" to dry up by the oil industry.
"NBC 10 was live at one gas station when the pumps went dry at rush hour."

Uh-huh.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:48 PM
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30. Bingo! Fake shortage! Strike FEAR! Raise prices. No complaints.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:08 PM
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35. How has this gouging been able to go on for so long?
Just once I'd like to see a bunch of oil execs have to testify before Congress -- under oath. (Like that's going to happen with Republicans in charge.)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:01 AM
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42. Every time they DO, it's like the tobacco hearings all over again
They LIE like rugs, and the republican flunkie congresspeople/senators, pile on the accolades and praise..and then aske them their toughie question...pancakes or waffles?

If a 7-11 owner bumps up the prices of batteries in an emergency situation, he goes to jail..but oil companies can rob us blind in wartime and get away with obscene loot..

They are modern day pirates..

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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:47 PM
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51. toughie question...pancakes or waffles? LMBAO...

Thanks for the early afternoon laugh. To bad you are right on the money.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:10 PM
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14. This is getting entertaining.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:37 PM
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49. huh?
Are you an oil exec? Endlessly wealthy? Walk everywhere? How could this entertain anyone?
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:31 PM
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17. Virginia is having the same problems but they are saying that it is
because of the switch over from winter fuel to summer fuel. Many pumps are dry or they just have high test.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:33 PM
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20. BS!!!!! n/t
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Weembo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:55 PM
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26. Very true.
With the mandate that MTBE be eliminated, summer fuel blends (required in pollution-prone areas) have to kick in about now. The ethanol blend for this stuff just isn't keeping up, just like the supply of Priuses didn't keep up when they first went into big demand. It will resolve pretty soon.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:50 PM
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52. That is a smelly "BULLSHIT" lie!
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 07:48 PM
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23. Its the CLENIS! IT ONLY GETS 3 MILES TO THE GALLON!!!
THE CLENIS IS USING UP ALL OUR GAS!!!! IT HATES MURKA AND JESUS!
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 08:54 PM
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31. North Jersey
A gas station in my town had only regular yesterday. We crossed back over the $3 mark. Now this is really bad news for BushBoy. People want their gasoline. You might as well take away their TV
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:05 PM
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34. Everybody's upset...except for oil company execs (ie. Bush cronies)
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:10 PM
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36. People there is a problem out there
Wake up...

as long as 30 days... wonders whats going on???
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:16 PM
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39. Look at the big picture, folks!
Edited on Thu Apr-20-06 09:37 PM by regnaD kciN
Throughout the Bush maladministration, the corporate-right coalition has been gradually increasing their grip on our throats and pocketbooks -- but slowly, so that we wouldn't notice (remember the proverb about how to cook a frog by gradually increasing the temperature in the water?), and there wouldn't be a backlash against them at the polls.

Now, as Bush continues to sink in popularity, the gloves have come off, and it's "full speed ahead" on pushing the right's agenda. Hence, we have "unitary executive" proponents being placed on the Supreme Court, a White House that asserts its right to spy and leak information at its whim, conservative states banning abortion, and gas prices skyrocketing without any world crises driving the increase.

It's as if the conservatives have determined that their time in power is about to come to an end, and that they have nothing more to gain from trying to cloak their agenda to make it more palatable. Instead, they're trying to grab all they can, so that they can hold on to more when the inevitable and rapidly-approaching reaction takes place. Eventually, a Democratic Congress (and, Deo Volente, White House) will need to take some sort of action against the oil companies...and, from their point of view, is it better to grudgingly accept a price freeze when gas is going for $3.50 a gallon, or do nothing now and have it happen with gas at $2.50 a gallon? It's simple math, really, but it's also a potent indication that the right sees its time is ending. (OTOH, I can sympathize with the character in Blazing Saddles who, when told "Well, can't you see that's the last act of a desperate man?" replies "We don't care if it's the first act of Henry V. We're leaving!")

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 04:39 AM
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41. Mongol only pawn in game of life (EOM)
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:25 PM
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40. The Diamond Shamrocks (Dallas TX) keep running out
I asked a night manager what the problem was- he said their refineries were running out. (D.S. owns their own refineries.) They've been bagging their pumps (more often bagged than not) for over two weeks now.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:27 AM
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44. 5 of 6 stations on my way home from work.......had no gas...
I drive home from Chesapeake to Virginia Beach, VA.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 01:09 PM
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53. I guess we have been lucky here in Houston.
I only saw one station out of regular but wasw back in biz the next day. Guess there is something to be said about having the refineries nearby. No problems as of yet, but I make sure my car is gased up (never lower than 1/2 tank and no lower tha 1/4 in hurricane season).
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:10 PM
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47. I wonder how this will play out
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:36 PM
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48. I'm in PA and it's been over $3 a gal since Wednesday.
I've even seen $3.19

Um, have we heard any fucking explanation as to why this is happenning. I know they blamed Hurricanes before (even though the gauging started before Katrina). Now we are just supposed to bend over without even the courtesy of getting some bullshit reason? <sigh> :grr:
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 12:39 PM
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50. I'm noticing
I've seen stations out a couple of times now. It seems to be happening when one station is just a couple of cents lower than the others--everyone flocks there and they run out.

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