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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:27 AM
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Sewage Tested for Signs of Cocaine
By Bill Turque
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 27, 2006; Page B01

If government studies are a reliable guide, about 25,000 residents of Fairfax County -- 2.5 percent of its population -- have used cocaine in the past year. The same data from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health suggest that about 9,000 have partaken within the past 30 days.

Those estimates, based on personal and computer-assisted interviews, rely almost completely on the candor of the respondents. The Bush administration, hoping to someday broaden the government's knowledge of illegal drug use, is probing the mysteries of Fairfax's sewage for a clearer picture.

Earlier this month, the county agreed to participate in a White House pilot program to analyze wastewater from communities throughout the Potomac River Basin for the urinary byproducts of cocaine.

"It's a very strange request," Board of Supervisors Chairman Gerald E. Connolly (D) said of the White House program. "We're ready to do anything and everything we can do to eliminate illicit drug use. But I'd want to know a lot more about what this will actually lead to."

The White House Office of National Drug Control Policy said it is not seeking to single out specific localities. ... But David Murray, special assistant to national drug czar John P. Walters, said wastewater testing, which has been tried in Europe, "certainly has that potential."

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:30 AM
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1. the war on drugs
makes it in to the sewer!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:50 AM
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10. Exactly where it belongs.
This is absurd.:rofl:
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 03:46 PM
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27. Taking surveillance to new lows~
These IDIOTS are unbelievable.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:30 AM
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2. They can't find housing for Katrina survivors, but they can test
droppings for cocaine? :crazy: Who's making the list of priorities here?
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:31 AM
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3. see other thread
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:33 AM
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4. Why are our rats so paranoid?
Could it be nose candy? We must find out!
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:34 AM
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5. was this in the sewer
that serves the WH :evilgrin:
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:35 AM
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6. nazi's really crawling up your ass
pretty soon they'll be at my small intestine,
i can feel this scratching... everyone needs
a drugs war nazi in their bowels, its so refresthing
to feel that taxpayer sponsored invasion of
assholes in to assholes.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:37 AM
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7. so a little math here
You would have to test the volume of effluent, divided by the average renal and hepatic volume over time of the average cocaine user, factored in with gallons per flush, plus all the rest of sanitary sewer use in that area, dishwashers, bathtubs, running water in sinks and showers, mortuaries, plus dental and medical offices and hospitals, not to mention hotels and motels. Also was this tested seven days a week 24/7 and then normalized to account for weekend use, special event use, or just some random drug dealer tossing a bunch of drugs down the toilet when his or her neighbor came knocking for Avon?

The findings are absolute utter total bullshit, literally. They don't have enough real data on the input side without assumptions piled upon assumptions to justify their findings.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:54 PM
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24. Couldn't have said it better.......'tis bullshit.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:47 AM
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8. "I have a dream..."
"..that my children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the content of their character, but rather the contents of their bladder... "

Eh, just doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?...



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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:49 AM
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9. What's next- surveying the sewage for used tampons each month?
:puke:
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:52 AM
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11. Drugs in the water supply. Bet they looked for Prozac, first (articles):
But perhaps they're protecting their drug company buddies against law suits at this point by saying it's cocaine.

Check this out:

Prozac 'found in drinking water'
Traces of the antidepressant Prozac can be found in the nation's drinking water, it has been revealed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3545684.stm

Prozac in Drinking Water? Likely So
Water Treatment Plants Not Designed to Get Rid of Medications
http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/92/101794.htm

http://www.webmd.com/content/Article/92/101794.htm
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:04 AM
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12. Does that mean that the Fairfax Cty Police have to confiscate the sewage?
Uncle Sam wants YOU
The Army
The Navy
The Marines
The Argentine Navy
The Fairfax County Police


--Scream, "Your Wars/Killer," Still Screaming

Really, I don't have any problem with the Fairfax County Police or their fine jail. I just don't ever, ever want to see either of them again.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:01 PM
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16. Wouldn't their union object to such nasty work?
Mine would. They're cops, not sanitation workers.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:04 AM
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13. Republicans literally in your s*
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:25 AM
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14. Man, this shit is good
Takes on a whole new meaning...
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:10 PM
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30. lol
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:40 AM
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15. OMG--this is how they're spending their time? These pukes're friggin NUTS
These Repiglicans are absolutely INSANE, it's an outrage that we're spending tax dollars to have them swimming around in sewage looking for coke.

:grr: :thumbsdown:
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:09 PM
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17. Is there 'gold' in that there septic tank
at the Ranch?
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:15 PM
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18. Is It Because Coke Users Are Clogging Up The Sewage
systems - because of all the Manitol used to cut coke?
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:18 PM
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19. Only 25,000, that seems a bit low. n/t
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:20 PM
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20. Why?
I mean, why? What's the point?
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:22 PM
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21. bottom line: people runinng war on drugs as crazy as those running war in
Iraq. In fact, same admin is in charge, isn't it?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:49 PM
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22. Gosh, wouldn't you hate to be working at this?

makes a WalMart job look like your dream job!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 12:52 PM
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23. This is just too bizarre for words.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 03:06 PM
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25. It says "more" but I don't see the link.
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DUHandle Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 03:36 PM
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26. I wonder
how large their sample was.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 03:52 PM
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28. and zero readiness spending for catastrophes like Katrina.
bushco has got EVERY single priority wrong.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:44 PM
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29. ($) How much is this going to raise sewer bills? ($) NT
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justabob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 07:46 PM
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32. I am curious about that too
My other question is if Fairfax has municipal water/sewer or if the sewage/water treatment is privately contracted.
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tonekat Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 09:02 PM
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33. It's chartered as a public, non-profit utility
They tried to scam me this past summer, we had a leak in the supply pipe under our 50 year old house, some nasty flunky who drives around in one of the meter reader trucks tried to scare me into thinking I would have to pay for 300,000 gallons of water (his math).

Actually, you get pro-rated in the case of a leak, which is what finally happened. After they sent us some ridiculous bills to see if we'd actually pay them.

Why don't we just eliminate the need for them to test. A direct response would be vastly more efficient. Everyone! Downtown....pee on the occupants of the White House!
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 05:59 PM
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31. while they are at it
maybe they can check out the fluoridation of the drinking water! lol
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