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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:13 PM
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Insurgent doctor killed dozens of wounded soldiers (by lethal injection)
Insurgent doctor killed dozens of wounded soldiers
By Patrick Cockburn in Kirkuk

When policemen, soldiers and officials in Kirkuk who were injured in insurgent attacks arrived in the emergency room of the hospital, they hoped their chances of surviving had gone up as doctors tended their wounds.

In fact, many of the wounded were almost certain to die because one of the doctors at the Republic Hospital was a member of an insurgent cell. Pretending to treat the injured men, he killed 43 of them by secretly administering lethal injections, a police inquiry has revealed.

"He was called Dr Louay and when the terrorists had failed to kill a policeman or a soldier he would finish them off," Colonel Yadgar Shukir Abdullah Jaff, a senior Kirkuk police chief, told The Independent. "He gave them a high dosage of a medicine which increased their bleeding so they died from loss of blood."

Dr Louay carried out his murder campaign over an eight to nine-month period, say police. He appeared to be a hard working assistant doctor who selflessly made himself available for work in any part of the hospital, which is the largest in Kirkuk.

He was particularly willing to assist in the emergency room. With 272 soldiers, policemen and civilians killed and 1,220 injured in insurgent attacks in Kirkuk in 2005, the doctors were rushed off their feet and glad of any help they could get. Nobody noticed how many patients were dying soon after being tended by their enthusiastic young colleague.

Dr Louay was finally arrested only after the leader of the cell to which he belonged, named Malla Yassin, was captured and confessed. "I was really shocked that a doctor and an educated men should do such a thing," said Col Jaff.

(more)

http://web.krg.org/articles/article_detail.asp?LangNr=12&RubricNr=&ArticleNr=10034&LNNr=28&RNNr=70
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:15 PM
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1. OMG
I have no words for this.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:17 PM
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2. it's shocking
imagine - horrible
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:14 PM
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11. total bullshit story to rally support against A-rabs
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:21 PM
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3. Kurdistan Regional Government News?...
I've never seen this source used before. Interesting.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:24 PM
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5. Really. But Patrick Cockburn is top-notch in my book. n/t
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 02:24 PM by Barrett808
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rabbit2484 Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 08:25 PM
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25. Its the new Faux News affiliate
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:23 PM
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4. I don't know why, but..
This seems all too convenient, and I am not sure that I buy it.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:44 PM
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12. You're right to question it - "Nobody noticed ... patients were dying"
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 03:45 PM by Cronus Protagonist
I think he would have been caught much earlier if the story were true. The whole thing sounds like a black ops piece.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:49 PM
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13. Hmmmm. Sounds kind a strange.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 05:38 PM
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16. I don't buy it -- sorry
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, I'm just saying I don't believe this particular story.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:24 PM
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6. that is war. that is why you dont get involved in war unless
you have no other choice.

consider.

they are fighting for their own life and land. there are no rules.

i see this as tragically sad.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:36 PM
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9. I remember when Robert McNamara asked Vo Nguyen Giap
how they had persevered in spite of staggering casualty rates.

Giap looked at him as if McNamara had taken leave of his senses and said, "It's our country".

I spent 27 months learning that the hard way.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:26 PM
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7. Hey, it's civil warfare. This should not be surprising.
Not to sound unfeeling here, but what do you expect?

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:28 PM
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8. Sounds like civil waar to me.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:52 PM
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10. hmmmmmm.
i wonder if the truth is this guy happened to be a witness to some shenanigans by the occupiers. what are we to believe anymore? they've admitted to planting stories in the iraqi media.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:59 PM
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14. Here's another source:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article353015.ece

My first instinct was that this was like another incubator baby story (remember that one from the Persian gulf War :puke: ) but it looks pretty legit.

:(
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 05:06 PM
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15. Dead soldiers would tell no stories coming back. Why are they being
penalized for WEARING body armor?

The only logical reason that I can see is someone does not want them coming home.

Something is very, very wrong.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 05:42 PM
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17. Nope! Still not the good news Iraq stories the Republicans are searching
desperately for!
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 05:42 PM
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18. IF this is true
I am sorry but I have to say lethal injection is a hell of a whole lot better than being blown to smithereens. I don't mean to sound unfeeling and I am sorry for the families of the soldiers; however, I stand by what I say. WE (America) took the gloves off a long time ago. What's that saying about reaping what is sown?

Jenn
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 05:44 PM
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19. It shows you the benefit of our men getting treated by our
doctors!!! What a murderer!!!
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enigma000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:36 PM
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20. I could see it if he were tending to Americans
but the doctor was tending to Iraqis. Why would a Muslim kill fellow Muslims? Unless he was working for the occupation?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:43 PM
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23. Muslims kill Muslims all the time.
It's not as if the Iraqis are a whole people. The Shiites hate the Sunnis and vice-versa. We've gotten ourselves involved in a tribal war that has been going on for 500 years.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 04:45 AM
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26. Wow. I guess you'd call them "enjunz" if you could.
Your narrow minded view is disconcerting at the least, and certainly and conveniently promotes the description of a group of individuals as a "tribe", which is often used as a way to minimize and demean, not meant to respect the grouping for which they reside.

They, those "tribes" in Iraq, actually happened to have (twenty years ago before those in our government decided we needed to stop their progress) had more Phd's graduating from their nation than the United States of America.

But you obviously failed to realize that "tribal" accomplishment.

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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:24 PM
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28. Way to take what I said into the realm of ridiculousness.
It is a fact that the Sunnis hate the Shiites and vice-versa. My point was that the Iraqis are not a unified people and that it shouldn't be a shock to the person that I responded to that this could happen considering that fact. How about if a I called them two different sects? Or two different peoples altogether? My use of the word tribe carried none of the condemnation you claim and was simply used to differentiate. You have gone off the deep end with your accusations and in your zeal to "nail" me on something you missed the point entirely.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:16 PM
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21. Chilling to the bone.
And how many other 'Dr. Louays' are out there? Waiting and methodically murdering injured soldiers and officers; unbelievably sick.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:20 PM
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22. And remember, this is the news the Bushbots do NOT want publicized. n/t
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 07:53 PM
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24. Interesting.
As of the time I'm writing this, there aren't as many people aghast at the idea of a medic killing his patients as there are people defending him.

With most people just denying it's possible. Which is a sort of defense.

Nobody's even suggesting that if he did it, he's just a routinely certifiable lunatic; after all, the occasional whack-job in the US or Britain offs a bunch of patients. No, if he's doing it, it's either because he's justified for having seen atrocities, or he's just doing the proper hypocritic (sic) thing by accepting patients and killing them. You know, violating the sense of trust that he's implicitly accepting by being there.

If he did it, he killed nearly 90 unarmed non-combatants. Under the traditional rules (i.e., Geneva conventions), they're protected. It's nice to know so many DUers figure that the rules justly don't apply to insurgents. Maybe they're not "human" enough? Or their cause--killing subhuman Iraqis--is sufficiently high-minded and moral? Dunno. Sounds very strange. Sort of like superfreepers gone wild. But, no, these are mostly DUers.

I need a beer.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:00 PM
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29. Oh there are lots of routinely certifiable lunatics in that theatre ...
... and also in the command centres back home ...

> If he did it, he killed nearly 90 unarmed non-combatants.

Isn't that approximately two "weddings" (to use the USAF units
of peace and freedom)? That's not enough to get worried about
really ... if he worked a bit harder at it he might be able to
match the weekly civilian deaths in Baghdad alone.

> ... there aren't as many people aghast at the idea of a medic
> killing his patients as there are people defending him.

Maybe they've just been numbed by years of abuse from their
government ...? There was a nice quote recently about "the
problem with America" being that half the people are just
shell-shocked at the way that the leadership treats them
while the other half are so stupid they haven't noticed yet.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 05:03 AM
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27. I have never heard of an "insurgent doctor" before.
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