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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:49 AM
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Moonie Times: Papers show bin Laden met with Iraqis

http://www.washtimes.com/upi/20060323-103915-8608r.htm

Papers show bin Laden met with Iraqis

Documents released by the U.S. military show al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden sought support from Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in 1995.

One document says one of Saddam's representatives met with bin Laden in Sudan on Feb. 19, 1995, and bin Laden asked that Iraq broadcast the lectures of Suleiman al Ouda, a radical Saudi preacher, and suggested "carrying out joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia.

Eight months after that meeting, on Nov. 13, 1995, terrorists attacked Saudi National Guard Headquarters in Riyadh, killing five U.S. military advisers. The militants confessed on Saudi TV to having been trained by bin Laden, ABC News said.

Another document, dated March 23, 1997, was an Iraqi governmental staff directive on procedures to follow if questioned by U.N. inspectors. It included orders to purge computer files and correspondence and eliminate traces of chemical or biological materials that were previously used or stored.



:rofl:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:50 AM
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1. This is called "grasping at straws" --what a joke! EOM
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:51 AM
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3. the headline is the best part
peace.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:14 PM
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28. This is old news.
We know Bin Laden sent some feelers to Iraq, but it never went anywhere.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:51 AM
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2. sought support != getting support
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:52 AM
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4. Freepers are into fuzzy math, so to them it's the same :-)
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 11:53 AM
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5. And who met with Saddam December 19-20, 1983?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:52 PM
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14. The US CHIEF WAR CRIMINAL AND MURDERER RUMDUMB
What a sight --- What an ass clown this murderer is.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:01 PM
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6. Look how they try to tie the alledged meeting and the attacks.
They give no evidence, but by putting them in the article, they are trying to tie Saddam to the attacks.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:02 PM
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7. Well maybe I am all turned around
on all this Iraqi invasion stuff...let me digest this latest bombshell /sarcasm
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:08 PM
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8. This guy met with Saddam
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Imagine My Surprise Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:32 PM
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10. and I seem to recall Noriega on the Christmas card list until...
around 1990, if memory serves me.
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Chi-Town Exile Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:32 PM
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9. Have I Told You How Much I Hate These People? eom
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:33 PM
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11. Photos show Rummy met with Iraqis
So what?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:34 PM
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12. I have this bridge in NY you may be interested in Rev. Moon
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:35 PM
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13. This piece appears to be designed to maintain lhe loyaly of the
lemmings who will be able to claim that Hussein was behind 9-11 by telling everyone on Washington Journal that the connection was written up in the Wash Times. This was written for those citizens who are fact deficient - manifested in their inability to analyze and think for themselves.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 12:56 PM
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15. The US also met with bin Laden.
In fact the US trained bin Laden,

But hey, never mind.

:eyes:

Handwritten on plain paper... :rofl:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:08 PM
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16. ABC: Iraq Archive Document Describes Bin Laden Meeting
http://abcnews.go.com/International/IraqCoverage/story?id=1734490&page=1

<snip>

Note: Document titles were added by ABC News.

"Osama Bin Laden Contact With Iraq"

A newly released pre-war Iraqi document indicates that an official representative of Saddam Hussein's government met with Osama bin Laden in Sudan on February 19, 1995 after approval by Saddam Hussein. Bin Laden asked that Iraq broadcast the lectures of Suleiman al Ouda, a radical Saudi preacher, and suggested "carrying out joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia. According to the document, Saddam's presidency was informed of the details of the meeting on March 4, 1995 and Saddam agreed to dedicate a program for them on the radio. The document states that further "development of the relationship and cooperation between the two parties to be left according to what's open (in the future) based on dialogue and agreement on other ways of cooperation." The Sudanese were informed about the agreement to dedicate the program on the radio.

The report then states that "Saudi opposition figure" bin Laden had to leave Sudan in July 1996 after it was accused of harboring terrorists. It says information indicated he was in Afghanistan. "The relationship with him is still through the Sudanese. We're currently working on activating this relationship through a new channel in light of his current location," it states.

(Editor's Note: This document is handwritten and has no official seal. Although contacts between bin Laden and the Iraqis have been reported in the 9/11 Commission report and elsewhere, (e.g. the 9/11 report states "Bin Ladn himself met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or early 1995) this document indicates the contacts were approved personally by Saddam Hussein.

ABC has 4 more documents at linked story.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:08 PM
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17. What took them so long?
I expected planted crap like this to surface 3 years ago. What were they waiting for?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:08 PM
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18. They had to find just the right typewriter to fake it on? n/t
PB
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:09 PM
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20. It was hand written.
Edited on Thu Mar-23-06 12:53 PM by Dhalgren
The first several versions were in English until someone pointed out that these guys would probably write in some other language. Then it took them 3 years to find someone who could both write Arabic AND forge a document. Leading the "Free World"(TM) is "hard work"(TM)....
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:32 PM
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30. Handwritten on a paper napkin. Incredible.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:09 PM
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22. Chalabi had to get his forgery equipment from Kurdistan.
Couldn't.

So handwrote it instead.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:09 PM
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24. ROFL! That must be it!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:09 PM
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19. ha, ha, ha - a handwritten note??? Was it in invisible ink or Pig Latin?
oh brother :eyes:
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:09 PM
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21. And it was written on Pee Wee's Playhouse stationary...
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:01 PM
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33. and delivered by a unicorn
mikey_the_rat
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:09 PM
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23. So? the 9-11 Commission knew this. We knew Bin Laden attempted...
... to cultivate an alliance with Saddam. We also have no indication that it ever amounted to anything (except perhaps Saddam allowing this religious programming on TV in Iraq).

But you can bet Fox News will be trumpeting it as "proof" that Saddam was in league with Al Qaeda.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:50 PM
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31. "We" know anything of the kind. Osama disliked Saddam because....
...he did not create an Islamic Fundamentalist government in Iraq. Saddam distrusted ANY potential rival operating within the borders of Iraq.

Osama would never have worked with Saddam for any reason, and vice versa.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:09 PM
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25. kind of duped...
Moonie Times: Papers show bin Laden met with Iraqis!!

More of that Military Intel 'good news' fund that has blown back States side...
This is so stupid...
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:09 PM
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26. Was the "document" a hooka napkin?
:shrug:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:09 PM
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27. "In other news, Humpty Dumpty found whole."
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Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:15 PM
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29. Seems pretty damn weak to me.
Un-sourced. No official seal.

What's the one about France supposed to be implying? That French politicians were being bribed and that is why they didn't want to go to war in Iraq?

The last one, where they are searching for possible Al Qaeda members in a border town can just as easily be to find them in order to expel them. In fact the tone of the report seems to indicate that. Is it supposed to be the mere fact that Al Qaeda was in Iraq (sanctioned by Hussein or not)? So what there were (are?) Al Qaeda right here in the US.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 01:51 PM
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32. Wasn't this covered by the 9/11 Commission already?
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:07 PM
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34. does it mention the wee fact that saddam told bin laden to
take a flying fuck? they aren't even followers of the same brand of islam. funny how the right wing pundits always forget that.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 02:23 PM
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35. Ho Chi Min Sought Support from America
Therefore, America was in league with the North Vietnamese...

:sarcasm:
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