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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 02:28 PM
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Documents Show Saddam's WMD Frustrations

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/wire/sns-ap-iraq-wmd-tapes,0,1059424.story?coll=sns-ap-world-headlines

Documents Show Saddam's WMD Frustrations
By CHARLES J. HANLEY
AP Special Correspondent


BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Exasperated, besieged by global pressure, Saddam Hussein and top aides searched for ways in the 1990s to prove to the world they'd given up banned weapons. "We don't have anything hidden!" the frustrated Iraqi president interjected at one meeting, transcripts show.

At another, in 1996, Saddam wondered whether U.N. inspectors would "roam Iraq for 50 years" in a pointless hunt for weapons of mass destruction. "When is this going to end?" he asked.

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Scores of Iraqi documents, seized after the 2003 invasion, are being released at the request of the U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman, Rep. Peter Hoekstra, who says he's seeking evidence the Iraqis hid their weapons of mass destruction, or sent them to neighboring Syria. No such evidence has emerged.

Repeatedly in the transcripts, Saddam and his lieutenants remind each other that Iraq destroyed its chemical and biological weapons in the early 1990s, and shut down those programs and the nuclear-bomb program, which had never produced a weapon.

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 02:32 PM
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1. "Conservatives" have moved past all that WMD nonsense
We moved on to regime change and establishing democracies (not nation building) and liberating Iraqis. That WMD stuff is so 2002. Why do liberals keep bringing that stuff up? bush lied, so what? We are "conservatives," accountability is not part of our way of life, accountability is only for liberals and democrats.

Thanks for the info Sabra. Isn't the rolling stockpile of truth just a kick in the head to his base. Such a shame there is nothing in the head.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 02:39 PM
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3. Hoekstra and the Freeper cohorts are still hoping to find some
kind of Smoking Gun, when in fact it seems to be doing just the opposite.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:57 PM
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6. Same docs, it appears to me
they got their spin out on it. This seems to be another take on the same information.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 02:34 PM
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2. Thank you for this
Imagine that... Ritter, Blix... they were RIGHT!
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Sal316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:35 PM
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4. Just to remind y'all.....
...these were the docs that formed a WND story. In the WND story, one of the docs was 'translated' by a 'member of Free Republic'.


"Among the first batch of the thousands expected to be declassified over the next several months, the Al Mukabarat document was translated from the original Arabic by a contributor to the online forum Free Republic."
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 03:57 PM
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5. Yeah this seems to be a retread of the same documents
at least when I read it (was just about to post this) it seems to be the same docs and videos that just last week Freepworld were holding up as justification. O'Reilly's brain told him that somehow these meant that W was owned and apology.

Nothing nada nothing there.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:03 PM
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7. Saddam Hussein told the truth to the world and George W. Bush lied.
That's about as blunt as it can be. Hussein told the truth and Bush knew the truth, but kept lying so he could have a war that turned to shit.

Impeach the President.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:39 PM
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8. Finally, proof that there were never any WMD.
How long has the admin had these tapes? Cheney still goes on about the supposed WMD.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 04:53 PM
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9. "Fixing the intelligence"...
no doubt!
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:03 PM
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10. Jesus Christ...
He wasn't even under the illusion that he his people were hiding them.

Jesus fucking Christ...
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:58 PM
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11. kick
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:59 PM
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12. Documents Show Saddam's WMD Frustrations
Documents Show Saddam's WMD Frustrations
By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Exasperated, besieged by global pressure, Saddam Hussein and top aides searched for ways in the 1990s to prove to the world they'd given up banned weapons.

"We don't have anything hidden!" the frustrated Iraqi president interjected at one meeting, transcripts show.

At another, in 1996, Saddam wondered whether U.N. inspectors would "roam Iraq for 50 years" in a pointless hunt for weapons of mass destruction. "When is this going to end?" he asked.

It ended in 2004, when U.S. experts, after an exhaustive investigation, confirmed what the men in those meetings were saying: that Iraq had eliminated its weapons of mass destruction long ago, a finding that discredited the Bush administration's stated rationale for invading Iraq in 2003 — to locate WMD.


The article continues at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060321/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_wmd_tapes

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:59 PM
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13. "We don't have anything hidden."
We knew that.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:59 PM
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14. Prosecute Bush and Cheney for the war criminals that they are.

Be The Bu$h Opposition - 24/7
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:59 PM
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15. Where's O'Leilly's apology?

I won't hold my breath...he's probably moved on to the war on St. Patick's.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:59 PM
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16. Documents also show Blix and Ritter told them the same thing.

Maybe these people never heard about Ritter and Blix. I guess in their rush to help the Iraqi people, or, I mean, protect the American people from WMD's, or, I mean, get that oil, or, whatever it is they're doing over there, they just forgot to pay attention to the inspectors.


NO! When the looting of the archives was totally allowed, and even encrouaged, the US military was guarding the Ministry of Oil.

Don't bullshit us.
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Vox_Reason Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:59 PM
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17. Suprise, surprise, surpise, said Gomer
Everything we said was right.

Everything they claimed was false, to put it charitably.

What a hideously tragic disaster.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 06:54 PM
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18. "...the very weapons the dictator TELLS US HE DOES NOT HAVE"
"...the very weapons the dictator TELLS US HE DOES NOT HAVE."
-george w. bush

So there ya have it, in georgie's pwn words; Hussein TOLD HIM he did not have any wmd. Just like the CIA, the DoE, the DIA, the USAF & the rwhole fucking rest of the entire world said; NO WMD.

Saddam Hussein told the truth, again and again and again. GEORGE W. BUSH LIED.

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:09 PM
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19. This coincides with what the CIA found:
While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that Iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/chap5.html#sect0

ISG judges that in 1991 and 1992, Iraq appears to have destroyed its undeclared stocks of BW weapons and probably destroyed remaining holdings of bulk BW agent.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/chap6.html#sect0

http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/index.html
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:16 PM
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20. This pokes a hole in a few theories
Including one of mine, namely, that Saddam didn't disclose that he had destroyed his weapons because he wanted others, especially the Iranians, to think he might have retained some.

Anyway, so much for any theory that even remotely justifies Bush's pre-war WMD claims. As for the lame excuse given by Bushbots that Clinton thought Saddam had them, it seems Clinton had no excuse, either. In any case, Clinton knew the intelligence was inconclusive and didn't try to disarm Saddam by force. Bush also knew the intelligence was inconslusive, but claimed otherwise. Bush lied.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 11:23 AM
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21. This is extremely important, please vote it up. n/t
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