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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:10 AM
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Democrats' Data Mining Stirs an Intraparty Battle (Ickes, Soros)
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 12:44 AM by iconocrastic
Democrats' Data Mining Stirs an Intraparty Battle
With Private Effort on Voter Information, Ickes and Soros Challenge Dean and DNC

By Thomas B. Edsall
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, March 8, 2006; A01

A group of well-connected Democrats led by a former top aide to Bill Clinton is raising millions of dollars to start a private firm that plans to compile huge amounts of data on Americans to identify Democratic voters and blunt what has been a clear Republican lead in using technology for political advantage.

The effort by Harold Ickes, a deputy chief of staff in the Clinton White House and an adviser to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), is prompting intense behind-the-scenes debate in Democratic circles. Officials at the Democratic National Committee think that creating a modern database is their job, and they say that a competing for-profit entity could divert energy and money that should instead be invested with the national party.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/07/AR2006030701860_pf.html

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:13 AM
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1. I welcome all efforts to move this party! NOW! nt
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:18 AM
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2. "data mining" they are trying to equate it with the illegal searching
the shrub is doing.

Of course, this "data mining" is legal....
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:38 AM
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3. maybe, but data mining is a marketing term
the term is used correctly, so the motives of the reporter are not necessarily sinister.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:42 AM
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4. You are right... it's a PR term, but
in the minds of the public I hope it is connected to the spying. Frankly, I don't like the facts that companies are keeping such tabs on us either. But you know, reality sucks.
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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:06 AM
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5. Data mining - term is also computer-jargon
The ability to query very large databases in order to satisfy a hypothesis ("top down" data mining); or to interrogate a database in order to generate new hypotheses based on rigorous statistical correlations ("bottom-up" data mining).
www.inproteomics.com/nwglosde.html

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M155Y_A1CH Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:48 AM
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6. But is this safe?
They had better do a good job of securing their communications first.

I don't mind sending the Dems info about myself, but
they seem to get hacked, tapped and bugged too often for me to trust
that the VRWC won't be sharing too.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:31 AM
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7. They are starting this outside of the DNC.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:24 PM
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8. This is so wrong. Too bad they can't help the PARTY
instead of their own little king-making, profit-making efforts. What an insult to Dean, to the DNC, to the party faithful. Democrats for profiteering. Wonderful, just wonderful.

I'll bet the DLC loves it.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:44 PM
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9. I'm confused. What's wrong with creating an accurate database,...
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 12:44 PM by Just Me
,...of Democratic voters? :shrug: That database would assist us in being far more effective in reaching out, educating and assisting those who identify with our platform.

I don't get the conflict? Is it only about securing the data? If so, that can certainly be built in.
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