Rumsfeld says Tehran government sending military to destabilize Iraq

[ECH1969]

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld says members of the Iranian military have been slipping into Iraq to make trouble.

Rumsfeld says there's been steady, detectable traffic of members of the military across the Iranian border to destablize Iraq. He says "I doubt they're religious pilgrims" and he believes the activity is taking place with the blessing of the Tehran government.

Rumsfeld says, "I doubt members of the Revolutionary Guard move around willy-nilly."

Rumsfeld did issue this warning -- he says Iranian meddling in Iraqi affairs "is something they will look back on as being an error in judgment."

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=4597319&nav=23ii

[underpants]

1. We warned you about that too

Idiot

[MadMaddie]

2. Who could have guessed this would have happened?

Sigh......apparantly not the * cabal.....they are too worried trying to shut down the media!!

[underpants]

7. Well obviously if they had foreseen something like that they surely...

would have planned for that contingency.

[MadMaddie]

14. Ha...ha....Contingency....

the word of the day!!!

I bet * couldn't define "Contingency" just like he couldn't define "Sovereign Nation"!!

Contingency is Contingency....it means to have a contingency.......

:banghead:

[BOSSHOG]

3. No one could have anticipated this.

So Iran will look back at their meddling as an error in judgement. Now I get it.

Worst. Secretary of Defense. Ever.

[underpants]

5. Who could have guessed that a country would go into another country

a sovereign country and create upheaval for their own gain?

I mean COME ON! Give me a break here!! No one could have expected THAT!

[BOSSHOG]

9. If you cross the border, you will cause disorder

[Brotherjohn]

15. Johnnie Cochran for Sec. of Defense!

I know he's dead and all, but could he do any worse?

Seriously?

[BOSSHOG]

There is no doubt

A cadaver would not fuck things up like rumsfeld does on a daily basis. But there is also no doubt that bush thinks he's doing a heckuva job.

[coalition_unwilling]

29. The combo of Rummy Dummy and Peter Pan Pace is

enough to give me a serious case of the willies

[BOSSHOG]

35. It breaks my heart

that a Marine General would prostitute himself thusly. He is redefining Semper Fi (always faithful.)

[coalition_unwilling]

36. My Dad was a PFC in the Korean War (purple heart at Inchon)

and he thinks Pace (and Marine officers in general) are just as bad as the officer corps of the other branches of armed services.

[underpants]

17. Just say no to RUGS

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x596782


Oh very nice Jessie

[Amonester]

4. Last time it was Syria, now it's Iran...

Duh

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. I wonder how many LAARPS will be sent

to Indochina... ooops sorry wrong war.

[tatertop]

8. This story is propaganda: The Two Minutes Hate

Iran has absolutely no reason, or need, to send
troops into Iraq. Once we bomb the fuck out of them that
is going to change.

[Brotherjohn]

10. Of course he does.

It's not like, as the post above points out, this is unexpected.

But whether it's really happening or not,

1) They will SAY it is happening, and that Iran is "6 months from a nuke", that Iran is sending sophisticated explosives to Iraq, that Iran's president kidnapped our citizen's 20 years ago, and that Iran is the GREAT - BIG - BOOGEYMAN!!!

BOO!!

and...

2) Must we remind everyone WHO started this war, and that it was a WAR OF CHOICE? And, as it turns out, an UNNECESSARY choice at that (but we also told you that). And if neighboring countries are getting involved, that means WE DE-STABILIZED THE REGION!

Great work, guys.:sarcasm:

[Democrats_win]

18. Exactly! This is educated chicken little who cried wolf and brought Bull.

[adarling]

11. wow guys, you are so quick to come up with the answer

how did these people get in charge of our country? Maybe this is a general statement but why do unqualified people always get the leadership positions, whether it is in gov't or a regular old job? Someone please answer this for me.

[coalition_unwilling]

30. The Peter (Pace) Principle? (n/t)

[Mithras61]

32. That's funny... same time stamp & everything!

:D

[Mithras61]

31. It's the Peter Principle on a national scale... (n/t)

[superconnected]

12. In other words he just said, Bushco is declaring war on iran and

there is nothing you can do about it.

Profits are at stake here people. Our Muderer and Thief can't let bloodshed get in the way.

[madrchsod]

16. we have been at war with iran for almost a year

scott ritter has written about this last year. the brits are also engaged with the iranians in the border towns..it`s a dirty not so secret war

[madrchsod]

13. so we do what murtha said-pull the troops

away from the cities and station them along the borders until the central government of iraq can control the situation with in the cities. it makes no sense to let the borders open so the iranians can supply the militia in the cities. but we are led by those who make no sense at all when it comes to warfare.

[HuffleClaw]

20. they've already built monster bases to protect the oil fields and

once iraq 'asks' the us to 'leave' right before the fall election, bush will proclaim a great victory...

[HuffleClaw]

19. he's projecting again.

its the CIAl Qaeda that is intent on destabilizing iraq. he sure loves to threaten others.

[Emillereid]

21. The drums of war are growing louder!

[movonne]

22. Well we were the first to destabilize iraq.....the trouble with this

administration is they lie so much, we don't know what to believe..

[AnneD]

23. Well if it isn't

the pot calling the kettle black.

[Dover]

24. Rumsfeld had nothing to say when the Brits were caught dressed as Arabs

firing on Iraqi policemen in Basra.

[Massachusetts]

25. "willy-nilly."

Is that like "wooly bully"

Uno, dos, one, two, tres, quatro

Matty told Hatty about a thing she saw.
Had two big horns and a wooly jaw.

Wooly bully, wooly bully.
Wooly bully, wooly bully, wooly bully.

Hatty told Matty, "Let's don't take no chance.
Let's not be L-seven, come and learn to dance."

Wooly bully, wooly bully
Wooly bully, wooly bully, wooly bully.

Matty told Hatty, "That's the thing to do.
Get you someone really to pull the wool with you."

Wooly bully, wooly bully.
Wooly bully, wooly bully, wooly bully.
-Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs (How appropriate)

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[maxrandb]

26. Never Trust a Secretary of Defense that uses the term

"willy-nilly"

Thank God the "adults" are in charge.

[arewenotdemo]

28. More cuteness from the same Nazi that brought you

"my goodness" and "good gracious", etc., etc.

All designed to make the White House press corpse and the folks at home think "Rummy" and not Herr Rumsfeld.

[Renew Deal]

27. It's a smart move by Iran

If that's actually happening.

[coalition_unwilling]

33. Is it being a "poor sport" to root for Iran? (n/t)

[Renew Deal]

49. It's being an asshole.

There is no way that I am rooting for those thugs to kill our soldiers.

[coalition_unwilling]

55. I thought it was against the rules here to name-call, but anyway

"Those thugs"? Iranian soldiers? Thugs? Most of them are conscripts or joined the Iranian military for pretty much the same reasons our volunteers join, i.e., income, education, health care.

Or perhaps you meant to say, "There is no way that I am rooting for those thugs to kill our thugs."???

[RazzleDazzle]

37. Or are WE doing it and blaming Iran?

Dahr Jamail...."Who Benefits?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x193106#193113
Link: http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/archives/dispatches/000365.php

FAUX News: All-Out Civil War in Iraq: Could It Be a Good Thing?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x510889
Link: http://mediamatters.org/items/200602240003

Many Iraqis Believe "Suicide" Bombings Done By US To Start Civil War (several good links)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5554171#5554406
Link: http://benfrank.net/blog/2005/09/17/suicide_bombers

[boddhi]

34. it's all part of the plan

most of the analysis coming out of iraq says that most of the trouble is caused by local iraqis

maybe funded and armed by iran but none of that is important

how are they going to take the fall election?

between iran's support for the insurgency in iraq and their refusal to back down on the nuclear issue (which the admin knows iran wouldn't support)

air strikes beginning in late July/early August last thru early October - no time for analysis until after the election

anyone saying "i told you so" will be branded unpatriotic

anyone not fully supporting the air strikes will be branded unpatriotic

admin will say "good thing we have those bases in iraq to attack iran"

shrub looking presidential as he orders the strikes, meeting with congressional repugs who he will hail as real leaders

general message will be: "now is not the time for change"

all the repug misdeeds will be lost in the visuals of iranian command and control buildings being blown to bits by precision guided missiles

civilian casualties will be unknown until after the elections

they've been working on this since before the last election - they've got this thing timed - they're creating the "nuclear threat/iraq uprising support/iran as terrorist" message to create the perfect storm - and everything is perfectly on target

it's the same script, but they've honed it since going after iraq

[Roland99]

38. If they can *detect* it, why the hell can't they *stop* it??????

:banghead:

[anotherdrew]

39. THAT WOULD SURELY BE AN OPEN ACT OF WAR! attack rummy if you dare

shit heads

[High Plains]

40. I think this is called "projection."

[ConcernedCanuk]

41. Iraq was stable before the United States of America invaded & occupied it

.
.
.

Someone tell me I'm wrong??

[MasonJar]

42. Does anyone really care what Rummy says, or any of the Bush

cabal for that matter? They are pretty much irrelevant except for their evil power and their 3 year longevitiy.

[Rose Siding]

43. Once again, he transforms his doubts and suspicions into fact.

Because he "doubts" fact x, fact y is true.

[stepnw1f]

44. I Don't Believe Anything They Say

and why the fuck should anybody?

[Buck Rabbit]

45. He makes an easily provable claim, yet he offers no proof.

Show us the Iranian Republican guards you have captured and killed.

Heck Rummy, even Hitler knew how to put corpses in uniforms, take a picture and claim Polish aggression. Have you lost so much confidence that you don't even try to pass off doctored evidence anymore? Easier just to pull unverifiable claims out of your ass? No evidence provided no chance to be debunked for the fraud you are.

[stepnw1f]

54. It's Astonishing How they Operate

Pretty clumsy, but with a media that gets on all fours for this administration, who will ever know besides us and who we tell?

[The_Casual_Observer]

46. Let's just say they were, would that be enough reason to attack them?

It's Iraq after all, not the US mainland. Since when has Iraq become an official american protectorate?

[Amonester]

47. Since "Mission (un-)accomplished"?

Oh! Right. That was for the BFEE only (and their fascist enablers). :argh:

M'kay. x(

[teryang]

48. Explanation of failure du jour

He and his cronies haven't got a freakin clue of what is going on in either country. They're too busy padding invoices and counting their swiss bank accounts.

[Mountainman]

50. I can't believe a word he says. Sounds like anti Iran propaganda to me.

It seems to me like more of the reasons we should attack Iran. Sounds like the build up to a new war. I don't buy it.

[High Plains]

51. Juan Cole pretty much laughed out load at this idea on PBS

tonight. Said it didn't make sense and there was no evidence to support it.

[Starfury]

52. Hmm, I think someone else's military got there first.... n/t

[Ben Ceremos]

53. Projection.

Pure, unadulterated projection. Iran will hand you a lifetime of pain...It would help if the Brits would stop crossing the Iranian border and planting bombs in Iran. FU Rummy/ I hope the mullahs hand you your head on a platter.