Nagin: New Orleans will seek aid from other nations

[Charlie Brown]

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N03281051.htm

NEW ORLEANS, Feb 6 (Reuters) - Shortcomings in aid from the U.S. government are making New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin look to other nations for help in rebuilding his hurricane-damaged city.

Jordan's King Abdullah also visited New Orleans on Friday and Nagin said he would encourage foreign interests to help redevelop some of the areas hardest hit by the storm.

"France can take Treme. The king of Jordan can take the Lower Ninth Ward," he said, referring to two of the city's neighborhoods.

French Transport Minister Dominique Perben, leading the French delegation to a city that was founded by France in 1718, said, "This catastrophe has deeply upset the French people and the French government."

France, Perben said through a translator, "wants to be a long-term partner for Louisiana and New Orleans."

[phantom power]

1. America. The super-power...

:eyes:

[Born Free]

39. yes, and the current leaders have no shame

I never would have guessed the day would come when poorer countries would have to take care of our own because the people in charge are stealing everything the America people have to give.

[niceypoo]

88. New Orleans rejected Bush in the last election

Everything is backstabbing and politics w/these people

[Zambero]

91. Negligence has tentacles however

By abandoning New Orleans' plight after an 11th hour attempt to save face with grandiose but empty promises, Bush is sending a message to the rest of the country: If a natural disaster decimates your community, don't expect anything other than lip service from me. He grossly underestimates the backlash that will continue to eminate from this policy of not-so-benign neglect.

Yes, we could certainly do more to assist this great city in a time of need, but that would compromise this administration's "firm commitment" to the Iraq disaster-in-progress, and worse yet could jeopardize making permanent huge tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans.

[wordpix2]

50. LOL, superpower, indeed!

[ClintonTyree]

84. In terms of military might.....

we are. Big deal, huh? :eyes: So we can blow any other country in the world into dust, doesn't that make you proud to be an American? The old argument "guns or butter" comes to mind and our government has certainly chosen "guns". Everything is backassward in this country right now, it's time for a complete 180 degree turn.
That this is happening in "the world's only super-power" is a disgrace, our president is a disgrace and his policies are completely off the wall.
Somehow we must hang on 3 more years or impeach the bastard. IMPEACH NOW! :grr:

[Zambero]

76. If Bush can dismiss New Orleans as a Third-World poverty pocket ...

...politically "unredeemable" and therefore unworthy of more than token federal assistance, then he might just as well blow off the entire country. And in doing so, if other nations wish to come to the aid of this aspiring Third-World nation, then God bless them for helping out! Bush talks about an "ownership society", but it's really all about "dis-ownership". If you have full-fledged standing in the wealthy elite, then the Calvinistic force of benevolent goodness will always smile upon you. But if you somehow don't fit into this picture, then buddy you're way out on the end of a limb -- with a chainsaw busily working to sever you from the tree.

[CAcyclist]

101. He's blowing off California.

Zero appropriations in the new budget for levees in California.

Although there are developers who want to build a private levee system in the Sacramento delta area so they can build houses where they shouldn't.

[CTyankee]

2. Things have come to a pretty pass when

the mayor of New Orleans, one of America's great cities, has to go hat in hand to foreign countries to do what our own government won't do.

What an outrage!

[CottonBear]

12. Spain and France founded NOLA which became a city of immigrants

from Europe, the Meditterranean and South Asia. It makes sense for those countries to offer help.

[wordpix2]

53. true, France and Spain have a long history in NO--why not help out?

Especially when your own gov. turns its back b/c it's too busy with a fraudulent war in Iraq and now Iran.

[girl gone mad]

22. We're too busy...

blowing up and half-assedly rebuilding Missle Eastern cities.

[liberalnurse]

26. Can he really accomplish this?

I sense that he will be stopped by FEMA, *bush cronies etc.......There were many nations who already offered help and aid and were turned away by this administration using some trumped-up rationale.

[xultar]

3. This is gonna be some FUNNY ASS SHIT Y'ALL

[emulatorloo]

8. no kidding - we are in for a show n/t

[wordpix2]

54. yeah, this WILL be a good show, on top of Spygate

[laheina]

4. So much for freedom fries. nt

[CottonBear]

5. Good for Nagin. I hope NOLA gets a lot of money from other nations.

Maybe this expereince will convince him to become a true blue Democrat and not just a DINO.

[wordpix2]

55. and I'd rather have beignets, camembert and wine shops than

McDonald's any day in NO

[Carni]

59. Hell I may move there eom

[ixat]

78. *sigh* too bad Nagin is such a damn clown...

<EOM>

[NobleCynic]

100. No kidding

I admit I am hesitant to support anything Nagin has touched. The man is an idiot. But even an idiot can't always be wrong. Let's just hope this is one of those cases, as he might still screw it up royally.

[Canuckistanian]

6. My, my, my... FRANCE is going to help NO

Won't that just put a twist in the wingnuts' shorts?

[CottonBear]

7. Maybe Spain , Germany, Italy and Vietnam will help too!

The Spanish were in NOLA before the French if I remember my history correctly. Many French (Creoles), German and Italian citizens immigrated to NOLA. Later, many Southeast Asians, like the Vietnamese, immigrated to NOLA. The Cajuns came from Canada. Perhaps Canada will donate to the relief work in the Acadian areas of the Gulf Coast.

[Canuckistanian]

27. Sure, we'd pitch in

Looks like thay're just as vulnerable as the people in mountains of Pakistan after the earthquake.

Somebody's got to help them.

[CottonBear]

67. Your help would be much appreciated.

Mr. CB is a NOLA native. His sister and nephew and great nephew and cousins and extended family suffered greatly in St. Tammany Parish. His sister hasn't slept in her own bed since the hurricane. She hopes to have the house repairs complete this month.

[Lisa]

97. maybe it's just as well that many big US cities started as outposts ...

... of other countries. Given what happened to New Orleans, if San Francisco gets hit by a big quake, at least they could turn to Spain! And maybe New York could get an assist from the Netherlands, if they have another disaster.

(Seriously -- it really disturbs me that the administration seems to have a blind spot when it comes to large urban centers, whether they're in a disaster, or the ongoing day-to-day struggle. It's one thing to have some kind of holdover Romantic-era bias in favor of the countryside, but if people honestly believe that cities are wicked degenerate places and don't deserve help -- they should not be holding political power, given that most Americans are urbanites!)

It's nice when cities form international relationships, even under such sad circumstances. I am pleased that Vancouver sent some urban rescue personnel to Louisiana soon after Katrina ... though I wish that we could have done more, to help out. Apparently, out of pride or just plain disorganization, offers of help from Canada (and from inside the US too) were turned down!


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0908-02.htm

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/31/235829/261


"The Government of Nova Scotia donated $100,000 towards the Red Cross effort. This was followed on September 8 when the Government of Alberta announced that it was donating $5 million to the Hurricane Katrina fund administered by former presidents Bush and Clinton. The cheque was personally given by Premier Ralph Klein to former president Clinton during a visit to Alberta in October."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina

[pokercat999]

43. Cuba could send some Medical Doctors.

[juajen]

32. France has been helping from the beginning

N/T

[0007]

47. I love it!

[geomon666]

9. Unbelievable. How disgusting this country has become.

If we only knew back in 2001.

[Patchuli]

63. We knew on his first day in office

when he signed an order against private American organizations helping third world women with reproductive health issues using private money. He started in on the ladies right away...

I warned a certain friend who told me "Oh he would not try to overturn Roe v. Wade since Laura is pro choice! ha!

[Hekate]

70. I practically drove off the road when I heard that on the radio

Everyone has their own "moment"-- apparently * was quite busy signing Executive Orders that day -- but from the moment he re-instituted the global gag order I knew he had no intention of being a "uniter, not a divider," and every day since then has simply confirmed it.

As for Laura (and all the other Bush women) being pro-choice, * keeps telling anyone who will listen that he is president, not they.

Hekate

[Tempest]

10. I bet Chavez will be more than willing to help out

Unlike Bush, he cares about the people.

[Wilms]

15. .

:thumbsup:

[KamaAina]

25. Intriguingly, Caracas is a sister city to New Orleans

http://www.sister-cities.org/icrc/directory/Americas/Venezuela

Caracas has indeed chosen wisely, with San Francisco and Honolulu as well. (Does that make us "cousins" of N.O.?)

I've been wondering for some time now when we're going to see some action on this front. Chavez, as you know, has a knack for sticking it to Bush** where he's vulnerable, such as with the discounted home heating oil sales in the northern states. In any event, it wouldn't hurt New Orleans to redevelop some of its once close trade ties with Latin America, either.

[Cha]

42. Ironically, I mentioned

down thread that maybe Chavez would be interested in helping New Orleans:)

[CTyankee]

46. Chavez is helping low income people in New Haven, Ct

offering heating oil at lowered prices. I don't know too much about it because I am luckily not low income, but it was in our local newspaper that he was helping low income people.

I guess we just have to shove it to Bush!

[Tempest]

77. And in Vermont

They signed a contract the week before last.

[biscotti]

11. I love it!

Take that, you corrupt administration. I hope * feels the sting of this slap.

[NanceGreggs]

13. What a great little piece ...

... of negative publicity for this Administration, and the Repubs who have supported it.

The Unites States of America is now a Third World Country, dependent on the charity of others in order to sustain itself.

Heck of a job, Bushie!

[medeak]

14. email to MSN!!!!! n/t

[bigtime]

16. a nice idea

but the State Dept will block this I feel sure

[stillcool]

17. well now ....

looks like Mayor Nagin isn't waiting on Mary Landrieu's Senate Schedule ....so her speedy approval of Alito was for who's benefit?

[peacetalksforall]

18. I believe with all my heart that the administration had a plan to screw

the Blacks of New Orleans and gain this city for their friends. I believe they thought it would all be forgotten and that they could pull off another theft.

Now, let's see how humbly the citizens of the U.S. are going to accept other countries coming in to save the city and save these people.

And think about this - 5300 people are missing. If everyone of these people had only five people who are relatives and friends or business partners - that means 26,500 people who are mourning waiting, and blocked from closure.

Now compare - compare the attention given to 9-11 with NO by this administration. They right wing criminals have a perfect political TOOL with the victims of 9-11 and they hide the tragedy of NO. And both have suffered from their broken promises.

I am extremely angry with France right now because of their partnership with the U.S. on the takeover of Haiti and their partnership in installing criminal hand picked Chalabi type criminals to run the country in a pretend way.

We live a sham - but bring it on. Let foreign nations save the grand city of New Orleans, including France. Maybe one of those countries can conduct all the investigations of wrong doing, also.

[Tempest]

19. There's proof Bush is trying to screw Blacks in N.O.

Just look at the plans for razing Black neighborhoods without input from the local citizens or government and replacing them with upscale development.

Development most Blacks from N.O. won't be able to afford.

[lagavulin]

20. Somewhere in the LA Capitol Bldg the word "secession" echoes in the halls.

When your own government can no longer provide for you, of course you'd look for one that will--just ask any of the Northeastern states that are now working deals behind Bush's back for Venezuelan heating oil.

Of course, if you have to keep looking elsewhere after a while I would imagine you'd start to wonder what good that government is to you anymore.

Anybody remember this USA Today article about trends to watch for in 2006...amazingly frank and on target:

In the year 2006: Online TV, secession, survivalism

"Other predicted trends:
...Citizen-driven movements for states to break away from the union will arise."

[juajen]

31. Except

Middle and Northern Louisiana are bible belt and majority pug. Tis a wierd state, but we in So. Louisiana are prettier, nicer and more democratic. LOL

This is why Landrieu and Blanco walk a fine line between the parties and make so many of us progressives mad as hell. Ah, well.

[NJCher]

90. very interesting

I've been saying this (pressure for secession) for a long time and people call me a crackpot. Nice to see I'm a "far out" crackpot with ideas printed by USA Today, LOL!

Look at what the states had to do over the Medicare fiasco; add Katrina and how the citizens of NO were left to fend for themselves. Look at the fact that the EPA misled on the issue of air safety during the cleanup of WTC. What is the role of the federal government? To eff things up?

Then there's the matter of auto emissions choking citizens and the governments of states like NJ and CA have had to step in with their own emissions plans because the U.S. government is wholly bought and paid for by the automobile companies.

I see T-shirts: "I am a USA citizen and all it got me was a big fat Iraq war debt."

As they continue to steal elections and the real needs of the people are ignored, there will be more pressure on the states to act. At some point, the sheer economics of it will force a choice: your state (meaning regional area) or the federal government? It's easy to see which one most citizens will choose.




Cher

[ContraBass Black]

21. I feel sick.

I thought this was a joke peice...

[ConcernedCanuk]

23. But - ya silly people - * needs that $$$ for a higher "purpose"

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Y'all don't wanna take away from ur Emperor's ability to invade and occupy other countries now do ya??

SHEESH!!

Lotsa cannon-fodder left down there . . .

[KamaAina]

24. Of course, KamaAina's been on this for months now...

I have long championed the formation of a non-governmental organization (NGO) to represnt the interests of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast region at the UN, in effect giving the Crescent City the same kind of observer status the PLO long enjoyed. Since it's obvious that the U.S. "government" has no interest whatever in rebuilding the region, it is incumbent upon the city to find one or more who will.

The king of Jordan can take the Lower Ninth Ward

Okay, boys and girls, pull up your favorite map server and enter "Arabi, LA". The section of New Orleans just across the parish line from there is the Lower Ninth Ward! This, by the way, not the Middle East, is where we get the jazz tune "Sheik of Arabi".

While we're at it, the entire section of New Orleans on the West Bank of the Mississippi is known as "Algiers"; Algeria, you know what to do. The section Uptown between the Garden District and the river is the Irish Channel, boding well for trade ties between N.O. and fast-growing EU member the Irish Republic. Back between there and downtown is the Coliseum Square area, where the river-lake cross streets are named for the nine Muses of Greek mythology -- we just bracketed the EU at its (for now) eastern end as well.

But seriously, folks, a more interrnational New Orleans is the only way to go. By August '05, the presence of a building called the "World Trade Center" (also "International Trade Mart") had become a quaint anachronism.

Gotta wonder if Ray Ray came up with this idea on his own, or if he's been reading my posts on the NOLA rebuilding boards...

[Barrett808]

96. The empire is collapsing

Failing to prosecute its two wars, losing control of its Latin America and the Middle East colonies, losing control of its treasury, unable to rebuild critical infrastructure...

[Magleetis]

28. Maybe Iraq

has a few extra dollars they can contribute. Thats where all the US money is going.

[Hekate]

71. Unless their name is Chalabi, the Iraqi people aren't seeing any of it...

...as the $$$ keeps flowing to Cheney's corrupt cronies.

And apparently still will, in New Orleans, with similar results.

Hekate

[laruemtt]

29. i love Nagin for doing this.

this will shout the ineptness of * through a megaphone throughout the world, not that the rest of the world doesn't already know. so i guess we are now officially a third world country.............

[spotbird]

64. After all his sucking-up I'd grown to despise

him. But unlike other Democrats, he can learn. So all is forgiven.

[MasonJar]

30. Viva la France! Take that you pretender scum. Actually NO

needs this kind of attention. If the neo-cons run the show, NO will no longer be NO. Can you imagine Paris without the Montmartre? Well, obviously the French cannot believe an America without New Orleans.

[Benhurst]

33. What other choice does the mayor of a devastated city in a

third world, third rate country have?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. Bravo ! Just like the NE States buying their own heating oil !! n/t

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

35. I don't blame 'em one little bit.

Take it from where you can get it- it sure as shit ain't coming from their own government.

[Gman]

36. Nagin's "thinking outside the box"

Good for him.

[truthisfreedom]

37. brilliant solution to the problem... it makes a fantastic political

statement and it makes bushco look like blundering a**holes. absolutely stunning move.

[kiraboo]

38. Okay. NOW I'm ashamed to be an American.

Can this possibly be true? That our government cannot find the motivatin to rebuild this city... no, not even to rebuild necessarily but to restore hope and dignity to its destitute citizens...while at the same time beating the multi-billion-dollar war drums for Iraq, Iran, Syria and gawd knows where else? Why isn't every republican repudiating this Administration like the devil it imitates? I am so damned angry.

[TriMetFan]

45. Don't ever be ASHAMED to be an AMERICAN!

Be PISSED at Bush and the Nazi-Rapebulicans.

Thank God or to whom anyone believes in for the help we are getting from the other Nations of the world.

[Auntie Bush]

40. I hope he asks Hugo Chavez for help. Wouldn't that tick bush* off?

Nagin better watch out for small planes and contaminated sea food.

[Cha]

41. I love it! France can

buy New Orleans!

Chavez might be interested in helping, too..who the heck knows! :D

Old bush and his handlers want New Orleans to disinergrate so his filthy buddies can own it..wouldn't it be just desserts for the French and whatever other foreigners want to invest!?!

[CTyankee]

48. Yeah, and here comes

Club Med with their new New Orleans vacation spa!

This is so awful it is not even funny. I want to scream. What happened to America?

[ConcernedCanuk]

51. "What happened to America?" - PNACers and the Illuminati

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That's what happened

(sigh)

[Name removed]

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[Chipper Chat]

80. Maybe New Orleans could form a confederation with

Key West. They could call the new country Conch-Gumbo.

[cyberpj]

49. GREAT Move. I don't always agree w/him but at least he's making noise!

[wordpix2]

52. hey, when help doesn't come from your own gov., where you going to turn?

[Sgent]

56. We'll see

but its my firm belief that Bush has managed to put LA in the blue state column for a long time.

My uncle -- a longtime R (including signficant financial support) who has lived in NOLA for the last 40 years spent last Thanksgiving ripping * a new one. No one in my family from that area who voted for * in '00 can even stomach David Vitter now.

[muntrv]

57. Might as well get help from France.

After all, New Orleans is a FRENCH city, and the bushies are still boycotting French products.

[Tight_rope]

58. Good for them...The French need to take back New Orleans...hell the whole

state of Louisana for that matter. What a fucking shame that we have to look abroad to get help to rebuild a famous city. May Bushco all rot in hell for they have done to this once great nation.

[RazzleDazzle]

60. More evidence that the empire is crumbling within

One of the few things I remember from any of the history classes I ever took, and this tidbit from gradeschool, is that the Roman Empire crumbled from within which was what made it so vulnerable to assault from without.

[wordpix2]

61. pretty obvious

[rooboy]

62. And I bet there'll be one hell of a big Chinatown... n/t

[baldguy]

65. A sign of a nation in decline.

[applegrove]

66. Good for Nagin!

[uppityperson]

68. Good for him. Get some help and embarrass the bush administration

more publicity, more more more.

[Hekate]

69. Wow. Nagin has a pair of big ones, I'll say that for him...

This has entertainment value -- and I hope it works -- but most of all I hope it embarrasses the hell out of Bushco and his sycophants.

Go, Mayor Nagin!

Hekate

[tavalon]

72. fucking disgraceful

I'm so tired of being embarrassed for my country, by my country.

[Nutmegger]

73. Wow - Good for him!!!

How sad is it that we can't even take care of our own people??

[The Traveler]

74. Attaboy, Ray!

Nagin has certainly had his, uh, off moments and all ... but what Mayor of a major American city has had to deal with anything like this? A massive disaster of nature, followed by a systemic failure of the federal government to respond. I admire Nagin for simply not falling apart under the weight of his responsibility ... and because he keeps trying to find a good path for his city's recovery. This is a good move ...

[Rex]

75. Someone has to do it.

Lord knows Repukes won't lift a finger for anyone if it is an inconvenience to them. What the fuck happen to America? Sad.

[DeltaLady]

79. This is an implicit wake up call

to the nation; New Orleans/Louisiana is restive. The messages are being sent; Governor Blanco has stated she will oppose any offshore oil lease sales come August (we supply and refine the bulk of domestic oil production) and Nagin has appealed for foreign aid. Someone better pay attention or succession may be the next step.

This movement knows no political barriers; we are cojoined in our struggle for survival and will savage any politico who stands in our path to recovery. Baker, Jindal, Vitter, republicans all are standing united in demanding we receive the assistance we require. I could not agree more.

[madmark]

81. its embarrassing

[HBK]

82. Sad...

How very sad that the mayor of New Orleans is forced to rely on other countries for assistance because Bush and the Reputz-controlled Congress are too busy trying to cover up their own corruption. :banghead:

[SoCalDem]

83. "Help", as in???

The biggest problems NOLA has right now is the displaced population and the huge MESS..But even if the mess gets cleaned up, MOST of the displaced people have ongoing fights with insurers, mortgagors, landlords...and then there's the issue of jobs, hospitals, schools..

This city took 300 years to evolve to where it was before the storm, only to be destroyed in a day, and "restoring" it will be as big a trick and trying to get a full grown adult back into the womb..

The poor people have been banished and most cannot return, even if they wanted to, bevcause there is no "there" there. These people need services to exist, and as long as the Old NOLA was intact, they all managed to make it check to check with help from neighbors, friends & family, and the availability of government services like clinics & hospitals..

Where they ended up after Katrina is probably where they will stay until family members go and get them and invite them into their own homes..

Ray Nagin talks a good game, but there's NO way on earth that poor folks will be welcomed back in..

NOLA will just have to "grow" a new crop of poor folks..:(

[KitchenWitch]

85. Gods, what is wrong with this picture?

:cry: x(

[liberal N proud]

86. This is sad, While we are spending billions upon billions

"Spreading bu$h's Democracy" our own cities must seek help from abroad.

And the stupid mothers who voted for this regime think this is alright?
:mad:

[gademocrat7]

87. I applaud the mayor's action.

We all know that shrub and company care nothing for the poor. They are so consumed with greed and power. At least Jordan and France are willing to help those in need. How very disgusting that our government is so corrupt.

[ClayZ]

102. Good for Mayor Nagin. US spends $100,000 per minute on WAR.

That is, $1,000,000 in ten minutes!!!

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2002780385_spending03.html


Iraq war is costing $100,000 per minute
By Mark Mazzetti and Joel Havemann

Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON — The White House said Thursday that it plans to ask Congress for an additional $70 billion to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, driving the cost of military operations in the two countries to $120 billion this year, the highest ever.

Most of the new money would pay for the war in Iraq, which has cost an estimated $250 billion since the U.S. invasion in March 2003.

The additional spending, along with other war funding the Bush administration will seek separately in its regular budget next week, would push the price tag for combat and nation-building since Sept. 11, 2001, to nearly a half-trillion dollars, approaching the inflation-adjusted cost of the 13-year Vietnam War.

The cost of military operations in 2006 is $35 billion higher than what Congress had estimated a few months ago that the Defense Department would need this year. The higher costs are occurring even as the Pentagon is planning to reduce troop levels in Iraq in coming months, reflecting the continuing wear and damage to military equipment in desert combat, the need to upgrade protection for U.S. troops and the effort to train and equip Iraqi forces.

snip>

[PurpleChez]

89. Touching and shaming...at the same time!!

[Shadoobie]

92. Would they secede?

If NO gets rebuilt with the support of a foreign country, would they vote to become a part of that country? They might as well be a part of the country that cares for them.

Greg

[katinmn]

93. Oh the irony. The US controls the World Bank (Wolfowitz) and

we are dependent on the goodwill of other countries to save our people.

Venezuela embarrases RW ideologues by providing affordable heating oil to Americans, and now this.

I can't believe I'm even in the same country I was born in.

[zann725]

94. Why is no one asking Chavez? He's offered heating fuel to poor in U.S.

...and food and supplies, directly after Katrina.

I'd trust Chavez a lot more than King Abdullah types.

[Kurovski]

95. Amazing. Now we're outsourcing concern and compassion.

Perfectly remarkable.

Many thanks to all nations who will help rebuild the home of our American brothers, sisters, and children of The Gulf.

[stepnw1f]

98. Help Your People... Whatever It Takes

Now THAT is what a leader is supposed to do. Fuck you Freepers sickos.

[NobleCynic]

99. Not a bad idea really

Even if it came from that snivelling moron Nagin. He is going to have to do a lot more than this for me to even consider thinking he's a competent public servant, but it is a start. One good idea won't save the man from the perception of idiocy he has so carefully cultivated.

[Nothing Without Hope]

103. I also expect Bush crony tycoons to invest in real estate taken from

the New Orleans (and other areas) poor and use it to build profitable casinos and luxury housing.

[aquart]

104. foreign aid to an american city.

how do we look in the mirror.

[NewDemocrat92]

105. An absolute shame

We have billions for weapons to kill people, but nothing to restore life. And isn't this the pro-life crowd??? What bible do they read from?

And apparently the new budget has little money for reconstruction?

While in the background, we are cooking up another war. The Twilight Zone couldn't even make this stuff up.

[JNelson6563]

106. Call Venezuala, they'll help

And to really rub it in give Castro a call. :toast: