(UK) Cleric calls on Mohammed cartoonist to be executed

[ECH1969]

Omar Bakri Mohammed, has said the cartoonist behind caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed that have sparked outrage across the Arab world should be tried and executed under Islamic law.

The cleric said the cartoonist had insulted Islam and must pay the price, as three people were killed during protests against the cartoons in Afghanistan.

"The insult has been established now by everybody, Muslim and non-Muslim, and everybody condemns the cartoonist and condemns the cartoon," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

"However, in Islam, God said, and the messenger Mohammed said, whoever insults a prophet, he must be punished and executed.

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[CJCRANE]

1. That guy is a nutcase nt

[Burning Water]

2. Oh, yeah,

religion of peace.

Moderate Muslims need to publicly disassociate themselves from these whack jobs. Sharia law does not obtain, yet, in the UK

[CJCRANE]

3. Unfortunately

this nutcase likes the sound of his own voice and the RW newspapers like interviewing him.

[meganmonkey]

14. Moderate Muslims DO disassociate themselves

from guys like this, often and publicly.

I think it's about time the rest of us learn to disassociate guys like this from moderate Muslims in our own perspective.

Peace.

[Burning Water]

17. Some do, it is true

but what about CAIR, for example? What about the leadership in Saudi Arabia. How about some denunciations from Islamic countries?

[meganmonkey]

21. They HAVE spoken out about this

Lebanon has apologized to Denmark. That is in practically every article about this.

As for CAIR, well, no one is talking about them. Why don't you contact some media sources so they'll spread the word?

I found it in ONE major US paper:

The cartoons were the topic of most of Friday's sermons at Chicago-area mosques, said Ahmed Rehab, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations' Chicago office.

"And what we were saying is that we need to react in a way that does the Prophet justice, not more injustice," he said.

CAIR has spoken out against the violent reaction of some Muslims.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0602060184feb06,1,7889545.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

[Burning Water]

25. OK, good news,

if true. There needs to be a lot more.

[meganmonkey]

29. If true?

You think the Chicago Tribune is making it up?

You are living proof that propaganda works. The information is right in front of you, but you question it...what, until it's on CNN? Of course this nutjob gets press, and of course the peaceful, reasonable people get none at all.

There are probably close to 1.5 billion Muslims on this planet. How many of them burned shit down? Don't let the media control the way you see the world. They helped manipulate America into supporting the Iraq war. You're going to be surprised when they do it again?

Seriously, Google is your friend.

[Burning Water]

30. Please.

I take nothing on faith.

Besides, no one was saying that every Muslim on the planet supports terrorism, or rioting. I want to see lots more.

Hey, just because we don't agree, that doesn't make you right. Ii suspect I read a far larger variety of news sources than you do, as I make a determined effort to get all sides.

[NuttyFluffers]

32. hee hee, what about the leadership in saudi arabia? ;)

y'know this is working wonders for them, right? they do a lot of things differently, and when it came to western technology their actions often seemed stupid or ridiculous to me. but make no mistake, these people are geniuses when it comes to assessing human nature, manipulation, and cutthroat diplomacy. give them a good long while, especially after much international courting, to submit a brilliantly crafted rebuke/condolence statement -- saying absolutely nothing you want. they get what they want without having to lift a finger -- just a few well placed words and playing both sides for the middle.

you're welcome to expect some leadership and forthright dealing from saudi arabia, but please, please, i implore you not to hold your breath...
;)

[Greeby]

4. The day we are ruled by religious law here in the UK

I will consider a "Jeffersonian" solution. I mean that

[GOPFighter]

5. If Allah is insulted...

...let Allah do the punishing. I get so pissed off at gods who are so weak they must have man do their dirty work.

Actually, I'm pissed at men who use a god as an excuse to engage in violence to satisfy their miserable, self-loathing.

[Adelante]

6. Screw this

"He said if countries refused to put people on trial for insulting Mohammed they must "face the consequences"

:crazy:

[SillyGoose]

8. That part got to me, too. nt

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

7. If anyone's read Jon Ronson's "Them: Adventures with Extremists"

this arsehole is the guy from the opening chapter. Why the BBC (and Channel 4 News tonight) are giving him air time is beyond me - of course he's going to say insane things, he's a nutjob fundamentalist. This is a time for the great many moderate muslim organisations, leaders and individuals to be heard, but they don't generate such catchy headlines.

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. I thought he'd gone to Lebanon or Syria

Because the government were about to arrest him for something? If so, why are the British media bothering to contact him? He's one person that the less we hear from, the better.

[Mythsaje]

9. Too much 700 Club will do that to you...n/t

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[meganmonkey]

15. That could just as likely say "Preparation F"

The 'F' standing for "Fucking Fundamentalist Christians and Bush-voters"

:eyes:

[megatherium]

24. I almost replied to the now-deleted post, to ask if he got the offending

graphic from Free Republic.

[sweetheart]

12. i am not kicking this

It is sadly not a kiss,
from a southern muslim friend,
perhaps he should do his bend,
hoping that his death threats mend,
deference god in every end.
might that allah kicks his ass,
when he bends there being so crass,
fatwa for his ego's end,
long time further should he bend.

[megatherium]

13. Aren't the British deporting clerics for hate speech or incitement?

Some on the left say that concern about Muslim immigration in Europe is a form of racism, but many in England and other European countries are very worried about a growing minority group perceived to be actively hostile to the cultural values (secularism and free expression in particular) of the host societies. I understand that certain countries are taking steps to deport preachers of hate, and limit immigration.

[muriel_volestrangler]

16. He went to Lebanon, and won't come/isn't allowed back

(he's not a British citizen) but for who knows what reason, the BBC phoned him in Lebanon for his opinion. Stupid move.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=22024

[Catrina]

18. He sounds like Pat Robertson ~

Maybe the BBC was acting on a request from their US neocon friends ~

As I recall, when things were getting wild in N.Ireland, just to keep the fires of hatred burning, someone always asked that other fundie nutcase, the Rev. Ian (I-don't-hate-Chyatolics,-Katie,-I-just wish-they-were-all-dead) Paisley for his opinion, also.

[GreenPartyVoter]

19. I thought the same thing

[muriel_volestrangler]

23. Since Ian Paisley leads a major political party in Northern Ireland

his opinion has been sadly relevant to what many Unionists have been thinking for 35 years or more (he's been an MP since 1970). Omar Bakri Mohammed, on the other hand, has a realtively small following.

[Catrina]

28. Very true, which makes you wonder all the more why the BBC asked

for his opinion ~ particularly since there is a Muslim member of Parliament whose opinion is far more worthy of attention, one would think. By contrast, he asked the question 'why were there no arrests on Friday?'

[jahyarain]

20. i take it the cartoonist is not a Muslim

hence, he's not obligated to live by Islamic law, right?
fucking religions

[SillyGoose]

22. Iran's parliament issued a warning for publishers of the cartoons.

Also Monday, 200 members of Iran's parliament issued a statement warning that those who published the cartoons should remember the case of Salman Rushdie — the British author against whom the late Iranian leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a death warrant for his novel "The Satanic Verses."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060206/ap_on_re_mi_ea/prophet_drawings;_ylt=AjfdYR9kOfw126kAqiTgTHSs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b3JuZGZhBHNlYwM3MjE-

[AX10]

26. How about they "execute" this KKLERIC?

:puke:

PIG!

[msongs]

27. what a nice man. he must have a fun loving mosque :-) nt

[NuttyFluffers]

31. someone shut the clown car door, please? we already have too many

bush, howard, blair, chalabi, wazzisname from iran, falwell, dobson, on and on. a few are entertaining when they are powerless, but the circus entertainers have already broken the stage's 4th wall and hijacked the audience... and i'm running out of peanuts to stave off the elephants.
:+

[Wheres The Beef]

33. about fundamentalists

God did not create Man. Man created Gods and they reflect his imperfections. This world will be turned into an inferno by all religious nut balls!

[Rex]

34. Death and torture, tools of religo-wackos

Maybe one day we will evolve past the inherent fear of mortality. I doubt it.

[MrSlayer]

35. I think HE should be executed not the cartoonist.

He and Robertson and all the other religiously insane people that would use the name of god to harm others. Assholes, each and every one of them.