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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 03:57 PM
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Gov. Jeb Bush calls negative President Chávez' influence in Peru
Jeb Bush calls negative President Chávez' influence in Peru


Florida Governor John Ellis "Jeb" Bush claimed Thursday in Lima that the influence of Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez on Peruvian elections is negative. The official was making reference to the ruler's support to a leading candidate for president Ollanta Huamala.

"(Hugo) Chávez will not only influence negatively on the Peruvian elections (to be held next April 9th), but also on similar processes elsewhere in the hemisphere," the Governor said.

The brother of US President George W. Bush expected that Peruvians "do not follow the instructions from Venezuela or the United States" on how to vote in the elections for president and the legislature next April.

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http://english.eluniversal.com/2006/01/19/en_pol_art_19A657721.shtml
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 04:09 PM
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1. Jeb to Peruvians: "The situation with populism is it cannot deliver."
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Bush on Thursday chided Venezuela's left-leaning President Hugo Chavez, who earlier this month sparked a diplomatic dispute with Toledo's government over his praise for retired Lt. Col. Ollanta Humala, a leading nationalist candidate in Peru's April presidential elections.

``I believe President Chavez will try to influence elections, not only here but in other places,'' Bush said, when asked if he thought Chavez would negatively affect Peru's electoral process.

``But I believe Peruvians are proud to be Peruvian and do not want to receive instructions, either from the United States or Venezuela,'' he said to applause. ``The situation with populism is it cannot deliver. They can promise the world, the sun and everything else, but it does not deliver.''

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/local/sfl-119govbushperu,0,7067888.story?coll=sfla-business-headlines



Just substitute the word 'neoconservatism' in there, Jeb, and you'll be right. And by the way, take your own advice and stop sticking your nose into their election process.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 04:17 PM
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2. Screw you, Jeb........
you backwoods, banjo pickin' fat-assed prick!

South America doesn't need your bullshit advice. They've elected Hugo Chavez (Venezuela), Evo Morales (Bolivia) and now Michelle Bachelet (Chile). All three defeated their right wing opponents backed by your lying brother, the chimp.

Hands off South America, and STFU asshole.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 04:18 PM
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3. Beth to Jeb: How is your buddy Miguel doing on the lam? n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:37 PM
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8. We know he's fixed o.k. for cash, having perpetrated the LARGEST
MEDICARE FRAUD IN U.S. HISTORY. He won't be running out of money any time soon, whether he's hiding in Spain, or Venezuela, or some other country.

Jeb really does seek his own element in the world. Miguel Recarey. What a winner.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:48 PM
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10. They ALL do! They're magnets for frauds and criminals. n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 04:26 PM
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4. gee we get about a third of our oil from him
let`s piss him off futher! ya that sounds like a really good idea!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 04:51 PM
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5. DU MUST STOP CRITICIZING PRESIDENT BUSH!!!
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 04:52 PM by ih8thegop
Pres. Jeb Bush is a great man! He and Sen. Alan Keyes, Sen. Katharine Harris, and everyone else are doing a fabulous job!

:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 04:51 PM
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6. "Chávez will not only influence negatively..."
perhaps, but 'negatively' for WHOM? the US, thats who.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:32 PM
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7. the US should be leading the charge for a unified americas
rather than telling latinamerican countries how they should conduct their elections, we should be working on relations with every north, central and south american country so that no matter who gets elected, we will have a friendly relationship with them. it's ridiculous to be meddling in the affairs of other countries, but especially ones you share a land mass with.

if terrorism from the middle east really becomes a problem on US soil, you bettr have a good relationship with everyone on your continent (and any adjacent continents) so you can be sure they will be willing to help you by not allowing known terrorists to enter the land mass. for some reason, bushco, and the entire clownish repuke party, have not figured this out.
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Flanker Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 06:37 PM
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9. The local right wing has no clue
First they assume Chavez is unpopular in the region, when he is mildly popular.

Second they assume giving Ollanta publicity is a good idea.

Third they get the dreaded vote of confidence from Washington/Miami

Currently they resort to racial elitism when talking about the "gorilla vote".



Chavez is like a franchise, they join up and he guarantees they will shoot up the polls.

http://www.caretas.com.pe/Main.asp
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:31 PM
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12. I'm aware the elite European-descended Venezuelans do this.
Looks like the problem has been lurking there, throughout all the countries seized by Europeans. That's so damned filthy. It tells you all you need to know about the Peruvian elite.

Thanks for the inside look at these idiots.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:05 PM
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16. Que chorro de pandejos racistas de mierda. n/t
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:21 PM
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11. Interesting line of attack by brother Bush--economics. These people
often give away what their next thieving, deceiving, murdering scheme will be. You just have to assume the opposite of what they say (as a general rule of thumb). Jeb gives this one away here...

"The situation with populism is it cannot deliver. They can promise the world, the sun and everything else, but it does not deliver.'' --Jeb Bush

It's a fascinating quote, actually--and contains much information. For one thing--some kind of plot in the works for economic punishment/skulduggery to hurt Venezuela's economy, and Peru's, too, if they dare to elect a leftist. Could have to do with oil, in Venezuela's case, or with the Bush Cartel/CIA cocaine trade, in the case of Peru. The other day, pResident Bush tried to stop Venezuela from buying military planes from Spain by denying them parts made in the U.S. Could also be pressure on the World Bank or IMF, to hurt these countries more. Who knows? But what's clear is that Jeb is determined to insure that "populism" has no rewards and cannot benefit people.

His brethren in the Venezuelan oil business--just as Chavez came to power--sabotaged all the computers in Venezuela's oil infrastructure, and thus significantly retarded production (by about a third). The Chavistas got to work and figured out how to get the system back on line, but they were hit with a big loss of revenue in the meantime. Chavez got rid of the lot of them (US/CIA tech company), but I imagine they've got more dirty tricks up their sleeves.

So this is how to read remarks like this: "The situation with populism is it cannot deliver..." TRUTH: The situation is that we WILL NOT PERMIT populism to deliver."
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 11:05 PM
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18. Yes, Jeb is all about punitive measures for those who support the people.
I suspect that Jeb, being a charter member of the PNAC, also wants to dismantle OPEC, which would negatively affect Venezuela.

What's good for the BFEE was, is, and forever will be the motivation.

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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:47 PM
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13. Yes, he is a very negative influence
for those who support maintaining the status quo.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:48 PM
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14. SD1981 calls Jeb and his brother negative influences on the whole world
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:49 PM
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15. Gee, Jebbie, what about your influence in 2000?
Without Jebbie's influence, President Gore would be in his second term. Under Jebbie's influence, they blocked blacks from voting (had to settle with a civil right commsion on that), falsely placed Democratic supporters on felon voter lists, colluded with Shrub Inc, and directed Cruella to block recounts. Talk about irony in a statement.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:08 PM
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17. so he's giving them the instruction not to follow his instructions?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:28 AM
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19. jeb bush ought to keep his cojones out of south america.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:31 AM
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20. Jeb Bush = Howard Dean on Latin America
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 12:35 AM by IndianaGreen
Both of them support American corporations and neoliberal imperialist policies to keep Latin America as the exclusive plantation of the United States.

Fortunately for the world, the US military is bogged down in Iraq, unable to perform its traditional role as a colonial army in Latin America.

CNN LATE EDITION WITH WOLF BLITZER

Interview With Shimon Peres; Interview With Benjamin Netanyahu

Aired January 8, 2006 - 11:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


DEAN:
Look at what's happening in Latin America. This president, while saying that he wants to further democracy and capitalism, is driving people in the opposite direction.

We need real leadership in this country and we don't have it right now.

BLITZER: Are you blaming the president on the elections in Bolivia or on the elections in Venezuela? Is that what you're saying?

DEAN: We had an enormous opportunity, when this president took office, and he said he was going to reach out to Latin America. Instead, he has turned them off. He's been high-handed with them; he's rejected them.

He's ignored the economic plight of their folks. And so, we're getting something that I think most Americans wish we didn't have, which is left-leading regimes in these places. We need a president who will work constructively and cooperatively with our allies around the world so that we really can move capitalism and democracy further into the world and not turn off people. When you turn people off, as the most powerful nation in the world, they are obviously going to do something that is not in our best interest. And that's exactly what's going on right now.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0601/08/le.01.html
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 09:16 AM
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21. Sad, isn't it? God forbid anyone should admit the truth about U.S.
behavior toward all Latin American countries, the courtship of the powerful elite in each one, at the profoundly tragic misfortune of the masses.
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