Shocking War Admission From Colin Powell

[AntiFascist]

(WJZ) In a candid interview just hours ago, former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell talks about mistakes made in the decision to go to war with Iraq.

"We were wrong," Powell says. "The intelligence community was wrong, the British intelligence community was wrong, and all the other intelligence communities were wrong and I presented wrong information, because that was the information we believed to be true at the time."

During the interview with the BBC, Powell frankly admits mistakes, saying the United States made the best decision possible based on information he now says was off-target.

"Everybody believed it to be true at the time, until we actually got into Iraq and didn't find the stockpiles," Powell says.

http://wjz.com/local/local_story_017073122.html

[bullimiami]

1. More dissembling. Hey Colin.......YOU SUCK!

[saigon68]

28. He had his "wet dream" when he saw the buildings exploding

And the sight of Children's Corpses in the streets

And later he got on his knees and serviced this guy

[cantstandbush]

84. "Everybody believe..." What about Scott Ritter, Hans Blix, El dbardi?

N/t

[donheld]

87. "Everybody believe..." What about

1/2 the members of DU.

[mdmc]

99. nice avr. pic

peace

ps - I like Colin Powell. If I had my way, the GOP would run McCain / Powell in 2008.

[jimshoes]

2. Well,

now what colin?

[VegasWolf]

3. No, France and Germany did not believe in Bush's puffery. nt

[caledesi]

8. Neither did Russia. nt

[rexcat]

50. The UN field inspectors were doubtful also.

NT

[ixion]

4. 'everybody' except much of the rest of the world

he knew the day he read it that it was a lie. You could see it on his face. This is just revisionist BS. :grr:

[Ernesto]

19. Including the UN inspection team, Scott Ritter, Joe Wilson .......... n-t

[Beaverhausen]

96. and the millions of people protesting all over the world

[UpInArms]

5. Message to Powell: STFU you lying asswipe

you knew you were lying then, you know you are lying now.

[Kikosexy2]

25. MLK, Jr...

is surely rolling in his grave....Uncle Tom sell-out!

[MsAnthropy]

6. Why does he continue to lie for the BFEE?

What do they have on him? Neocons wanted to go into Iraq back in the early 1990s and they made up stuff to be able to do it.

[classysassy]

95. its the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Colan,you and Michael are a disgrace to the human race.

[EST]

7. He moved his lips-he's lieing!

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. That's a lot of help now. Where were you in 2003 with this stuff?

Too late. Too damn late.

[blm]

10. Except we know you didn't believe it then. You lie now to keep protecting

the Bushboy, because that is your real position with BushInc.

[Deep13]

11. CIA, army, foreign states gave Bush good intel.

Bush gave Congress and us a crap souffle.

[spanone]

12. The United Nations Inspectors ON THE GROUND didn't think it was true.

Lying sons of bitches.

[Mandate My Ass]

13. It's only shocking he's still trying to peddle that steaming pile

of bushit.

[stillcool]

14. EFF That ...

Lying sob...just another war-crime-criminal.

[stepnw1f]

15. Everybody Except for your Club, Knew it was Bull

Nice try at spreading the blame, jerk off.

[WinkyDink]

16. He KNEW it was not TRUE!

HE'S STILL LYING!! And quite pusillanimously trying to spread the blame.

[Dogmudgeon]

17. Note to the potty-mouths

Perhaps they lied to Powell, as well.

If that was the case, Team Bush is also guilty of misleading itself and its own officials -- sometimes called "concealing evidence of a crime," and possibly "suborning perjury" in legal-speak.

Instead of telling Colin Powell to "STFU", maybe we should encourage him to talk. Especially where a judge is concerned.

Powell's reputation? Who cares! But if Team Bush used him as their patsy, it's NOT going to sit easy with a lot of people.

So, the Case Against Bush continues to grow.

--p!

[uppityperson]

20. Thank you. I wasn't going to respond, based on the other replies

Thank you for saying this as I agree. I am tired of the "STFU" stuff, as he should continue to talk. Yes, he may be lying. Yes, he has lied before. He may not be lying as he has told the truth before also. He may have been lied to. If so, and even if not so, we need anyone and everyone in this administration to say they were lied to.

[AntiFascist]

47. It should not end with Powell's explanation....

that the information from worldwide intelligence was bad. Enough new information is coming to light to indicate that it was bad for a reason, that there were forces aligned with the neocons who provided exactly the information that the administration was looking for. Is it such a leap of faith to consider that these same forces may have also staged 9/11 because that was also exactly the type of event neocons were waiting for?

[neweurope]

24. I do think Powell knew.But still your suggestion is the best so far:

Encourage the man to speak.

--------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[wookie294]

29. Powell thought he was telling us a "good lie"

Parents tell their underage children "good lies" all the time. Powell lied to America with what he thought were good intentions. He thought the war would last 4 weeks and that our victory would make his lies a moot point. If we won the war, nobody would care that he lied and it wouldn't obtain any media attention. Powell did indeed LIE. He should be condemned for it.

[sweetheart]

30. Yes, he had his chance to tell the truth

The next chance he gets, life will have him in much more of a vice.
Then if he doesn't come clean before he dies, his suffering for
his complicity in war crimes will be legendary.

Liar, discredited, bullshitter, who's justified what is an ugly crime,
and now he stands there a street thug demanding respect for his next
act of vandalism.. "respect" he cries again... "respect colon powell"
who has colon the size of lake powell, filled with deception and lies
he's prepared to dump on the world's people.

liar, felon, filth, lowlife...

[bpilgrim]

37. why did DU have more info than our secretary of state?

and now it is obvious to EVERYONE that not only did they lied but they actually manipulated the Intel.

but he continues to be the good solider and CONTINUE with the LIES.

face it, he knows whats going on and who's team he's on.

people are cursing and screaming at these WAR CRIMINALS for very good reason.


more...
http://GLobalFreePress.com

peace

[loudsue]

44. That's what I WISH the press would say...and they would, if they were

honest. Not only DUers, but MILLIONS of protesters around the world protested BEFORE the war, that this was a war for oil. And guess what!? Now, it's obviously the truth. Except, of course, to the 30% hard-core republicans that will believe ANYTHING this cabal tells them to believe.

:kick::kick::kick:

[wordpix]

86. you could be right; however, by now Colon should be investigating truth &

letting public know. If I were lied to in his position, I would be trying like hell to let people know.

[tuvor]

92. You might be interested to read this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=36998

[wookie294]

18. Yo, Colin

In 2001, Powell said: "He (Saddam) has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction."

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm

On May 15 2001, Powell went further and said that Saddam Hussein had not been able to "build his military back up or to develop weapons of mass destruction" for "the last 10 years". America, he said, had been successful in keeping him "in a box".

Two months later, Condoleezza Rice also described a weak, divided and militarily defenceless Iraq. "Saddam does not control the northern part of the country," she said. "We are able to keep his arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=13434081&method=full&siteid=50143

[daleo]

21. He is still lying

They know that "we were wrong" doesn't sound as criminal as "we invaded on phony pretexts". That's all this is.

[redqueen]

22. Liar... why should anyone listen to you

or any other thug in the GOPranos?

[babylonsister]

23. He's lying, as the NY Times pointed out today:

It Would Take 25-Ten Ton Tractors To Move The YellowCake From Niger


to Iraq. It would have been a monumental task. Are they telling us that with the satellites and all the surveillance that no one would have seen that? And, if they did try to move it in to make their case of WMDs, V. Plame would certainly have caught it.

2002 Memo Doubted Uranium Sale Claim
By Eric Lichtblau
The New York Times

Wednesday 18 January 2006

“ Washington - A high-level intelligence assessment by the Bush administration concluded in early 2002 that the sale of uranium from Niger to Iraq was "unlikely" because of a host of economic, diplomatic and logistical obstacles, according to a secret memo that was recently declassified by the State Department. Among other problems that made such a sale improbable, the assessment by the State Department's intelligence analysts concluded, was that it would have required Niger to send "25 hard-to-conceal 10-ton tractor-trailers" filled with uranium across 1,000 miles and at least one international border.

The analysts' doubts were registered nearly a year before President Bush, in what became known as the infamous "16 words" in his 2003 State of the Union address, said that Saddam Hussein had sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.

The White House later acknowledged that the charge, which played a part in the decision to invade Iraq in the belief that Baghdad was reconstituting its nuclear program, relied on faulty intelligence and should not have been included in the speech. Two months ago, Italian intelligence officials concluded that a set of documents at the center of the supposed Iraq-Niger link had been forged by an occasional Italian spy.

A handful of news reports, along with the Robb-Silberman report last year on intelligence failures in Iraq, have previously made reference to the early doubts expressed by the State Department's bureau of intelligence and research in 2002 concerning the reliability of the Iraq-Niger uranium link.”
Cont…

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011806Z.shtml

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

26. man, was Harry Belafonte right about this asshole. n/t

[Rex]

27. Liar

Colon Blow RUINED his reputation by serving his BFEE masters. For the rest of his life, Colon will be remembered as a LIAR AND a WAR CRIMINAL. Hard to swallow Colon? To bad.

[saskatoon]

31. TOO LITTLE TOO LATE Colin!

Your somewhat apology doesn't mask your ass kissing Bush and company. I used to admire you years ago, now to me you are a damn turncoat and a disgrace to colored people who put such faith in you. You make me sick.

[sundancekid]

32. Powell, your fukking dog OBVIOUSLY ate more than your homework!

[Jacobin]

33. MORE LIES

Office of Special Plans.

He knew all about it.

Liar

[sinkingfeeling]

34. No, Colin, not 'everybody believed it to be true at the time'. I didn't.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

35. Nor did I.

Nor did the thousands--maybe millions--of protesters who were ridiculed by the administration and the press.

And why was the "coalition" that invaded Iraq so much less representative of the international community than that in the first Gulf War? If I recall, it's because THOSE COUNTRIES DIDN'T AGREE THERE WAS AN IMMINENT THREAT.

Don't let these scumballs re-write history.

[MisterP]

38. Feb. 15, 2003, Guinnes' largest protest in history:

10,000,000 persons

[mike_c]

36. he's lying again....

The U.S. has known since the early '90's that Iraq was disarmed-- it actively covered the information up, obfuscated the intel, etc. Powell is doing more of the same, trying to blame others and "faulty information." The faulty information was the lies the U.S. gov't has been producing since 1992 or so. Lies that Powell was an active player in.

[alarcojon]

39. Still carrying water for Bushco, eh Colon?

Asshat

[damntexdem]

40. We didn't know the policy that we were twisting the truth around was wrong

How were we to know that the truth we were twisting was untrue? Nasty facts: bad enough when we twisted them, but they weren't even straight before we twisted them. I guess Darth Cheney's "motivation" to the intelligence community somehow backfired. ;-)

[Straight Shooter]

41. "I'm not reading this. THIS IS BULLSHIT!!"

Explain that one, Mr. Powell.

[HuffleClaw]

42. why he still shills for these clowns i just don't know

there's no reason he needs to.

[Hobarticus]

43. Short of Powell saying "I flat-out lied", I'm unimpressed.

What's shocking? All this does it reiterate the old "we thought we were right, so we're not really wrong" line of shit we've been hearing that's supposedly "revelatory".

You'd be swinging from the yardarm with the rest of 'em, general.

[Solly Mack]

45. same old bullshit - it's not our fault - it was the intelligence

Liars lying about their lies.

[KansDem]

46. So, General, what makes us think Bush will get NSA intell "right?"

Sure, you and the rest of the Bushistas "got the intell wrong." So why should we believe Bush will get the intell from his illegal NSA spying "right?" F*ck you, Bushista! You wanted this war! You wanted Iraqi oil! You wanted to kill Iraqis! You lied to do so! Period!

[newscott]

48. Liars go to jail Colin.

[yurbud]

49. what's shocking about repeating that lie? Cheney twisted

the intel community's arm, then they blamed them for telling the lies they were forced to tell.

[Geo55]

51. Ooooops....I lied,

[truth2power]

53. Yes he should STFU! Every time I see that photo

I feel enraged all over again. Colin Powell is a traitor! He knew. But he was too busy sucking Bush's **** to worry about children like the one above being maimed or killed.

I don't know if he has children, but I wonder how he would feel if this was his child? I hope he burns in hell along with the rest of thease monsters. And, yes, he's an Uncle Tom.

[saigon68]

67. The handiwork of cheney and the chimp

War Criminals

[madaboutharry]

52. Too late SHMUCK.

Powell never had any principles. He would always go along to get along and to get ahead. He is as corrupt as Bush and Cheney. He can never unring this bell. The lies he told the U.N. and the world will forever be his legacy.

[lakercub]

54. Powell is one of

the reasons Bush got elected in the first place (and election fraud, corrupt SCOTUS, etc.). There were enough centrists out there who thought Powell would be able to keep Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld under control that they were willing to vote for Bush despite reservations. To me, that makes Powell the biggest traitor of all. We knew what Bush, CHeney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, and Perle were. What people hoped is that Powell would be the voice of reason. And he may have been behind closed doors, but his UN speech (and continued dissembling like this) will forever ruin this man's reputation.
I hope your proud of yourself Powell. Your sell-out alone is the single biggest disaster in the last 30 years. Many people voted for Bush solely because they thought you, a man who appeared to have honor and integrity, would be part of Bush's government. Just you Colin, and only you. All by yourself, you enabled Bush to be elected and to start the Iraq War. Because of this, you are the biggest traitor this country has even known. If you had any scruples at all, as people thought you did, you would have resigned the second you were confronted with the evidence you gave to the UN. In fact you would have told Bush you didn't want to be his SOS in the first place. You didn't and now tens of thousands are dead ALL BECAUSE OF YOU. As I said, we knew Bush, Cheney, et. al. were oil-mongering, blood-thirsty extremists. But you were supposed to be the voice of reason. But you weren't, and your lies are the most damaging lies in this nation's history. Not Bush's lies, yours. We all knew Bush was lying, you were supposed to be the one people could count on for the truth. There is a special place for you in Hell, Colin, and if there is any justice whatsoever, you will burn for all the lives you timidly let Bush destroy. You bastard.
Blood will always be on the Bushies hands, but most of it belongs on Powells because people actually thought he was a man of priciple. I hate Bush, Cheney, et. al., but I hate Powell more than any of them.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

55. Liar, incompetent boob, or lying incompetent boob...

They all look pretty bad; but I suppose incompetent boob is the least embarrassing of the choices.

When a leader's stupidity results in the deaths of innocent people; that leader and all advisors involved need to be held accountable. How else can we properly apologize as a nation?

[rocktivity]

56. What's the matter, Colin--jealous of Paul Bremer's book deal?

You weren't "wrong," you were DELIBERATELY DECEPTIVE. You knew damned well that what you presented to the UN was a crock. But you didn't say anything then (you didn't even have enough self-respect to be insulted that you'd been left out of the loop), so I don't want to hear it now. Cue the DU "Cry Me A River" String Quartet!

:nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity:
rocknation

[lumpy]

57. I t has always seemed strange to me

that so many of in the world believed that the info was rigged. I suppose it was because we paid more attention to what the UN was doing and what the rest of the world was thinking. Powell's ridiculous presentation to the UN cinched it for me. Of course Bush's umrelenting vicious rhetoric against other nations should have made one suspicious in the beginning. His agressive presentation was one consistent with a dictatorial power monger.

[Upfront]

58. More Bull Shit

from this phony. They made it all up and he knew it!

[Zhade]

59. "The intelligence community was wrong..."

LIES!

Admission, my ass.

[Raster]

60. No one, including the BFEE, believed the WMD bullshit. You were lying

then, you are lying now. What's wrong colin, wondering how you'll look in front of a war crimes tribunal?

[rocktivity]

61. Candidate for this month's "You Call This NEWS?" award

"Shocking," my :kick:.

:headbang:
rocknation

[BlueManDude]

62. the intel was right

cia is not to blame here. they "stovepiped" and cherry picked and fabricated stuff. they heard what they wanted to hear.

[KakistocracyHater]

63. Does anyone else remember all the spies coming out

in the WaPo & the NYTimes & others-pointedly saying they were speaking for those inside our own American intelligence agencies & they said Bush's claims were total hype? There were some retired spooks who were speaking for those not retired inside the CIA, all throughout fall 2002 as the Bush regime whipped up the hysteria, with all the subtlety of Mr. Subliminal, pathetically trying to tie Iraq to 9/11. The fact that Bush & Cheney & the rest continue to attack us, the people in America, by using the horror of 9/11 as a spur to get whatever they want, that ought to wake people up to what Republicans have become.

[teryang]

64. "I lied"

The shocking war admission from Colin Powell.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

65. oh that's okay, Colin.

at least they have freedom now, and at least the war paid for itself, and no innocents got hurt, and Iraq is free of terrorists. I mean, we're a lot safer now, and the Iraqis are revelling in their new democracy free of tyranny, so that's good enough for all of us fucking idiots who do your bidding you son of a bitch.

[DS1]

66. errr, shocking to whom?

[Generator]

68. This "boy" is still carrying the Bushies water

and it still stuns me. The one man I believed of all of them to tell the truth is still lying.

Plantation indeed, Mr. Powell. Candid interview? Who is falling over laughing? "Everybody believed it to be true." Whitewash cover over lies. Is everybody in this country in denial from many Dem leaders to ALL the Republicans or is it just me? I bet there is a fine line between pathological lying and pathological denial.

I can't even hardly read DU anymore without silently screaming.

[meganmonkey]

69. That is SO not shocking

:puke:

:puke: :puke:

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[anotherdrew]

70. I didn't believe it... Hans Blix didn't believe it. Powell is still LYING

Collin... your pants are on fire...

[boobooday]

71. Oh yeah, everybody believed it

Except the millions of us marching in the streets because we knew you were a BUNCH OF LIARS.

[lovuian]

72. Actions speak louder than words... I applaud him for speaking

the truth but he needs to go farther...Redemption means being sincere and he needs to show more sincerity...

He's better than Rove Cheney and Bush thats for sure...

he's destroyed his own credibility...

[neuvocat]

73. Powell will never recover from this.

It doesn't matter how often he lies or how creative he gets with his lies.

[goforit]

74. Wait till you're finger prints are discovered all over the WTC!!!

Keep up the "it's all the CIAs fault"

It won't jive bucko!!!

It was your plan.
It was cheney's plan.
It was Bush's plan.
It was Bush Sr.s plan.

It was YOUR NEW WORLD ORDER!!!!


YOU KNEW THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE BEFORE THE WAR!!!!!

YOU KNEW IT WAS WRONG!!!!

YOU ARE A MURDERER!!!!

YOU ARE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!!!

YOU ARE AN ETHNIC CLEANSER!!!!

IT WAS YOUR ROBBERY

YOU WERE WRONG!!!!

That's right bucko!!!...You have been tried and prosecuted by the
PUBLIC!!!.....That's right bucko!!!....The "WE THE PEOPLE"!!!!

[go west young man]

75. He knew he was wrong all along.

Lying sack of shit.

[f-bush]

76. Powell's scum

and a chicken shit too. He goes where the wind blows

[Skittles]

77. F*** YOU COLIN

YOU KNEW IT WAS CRAP WHEN IT HAPPENED BUT YOU PLAYED THE DUTIFUL BUSH WHORE BECAUSE ALL OF YOU THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A CAKEWALK; GO TO F***ING *HELL*

[KeepItReal]

78. Damn, and I actually admired this guy when I was in high school...

He has truly been a disappointment, bordering on an embarrassment, ever since he left his job as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

[flyarm]

79. proof powell is a lying sac of crap from my files!!

i have saved in my files ..for this day to prove powell is a lying sac of garbage!! fly


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UK war dossier a sham, say experts
British 'intelligence' lifted from academic articles

Michael White and Brian Whitaker
Sunday February 9, 2003

Guardian
snip:

Downing Street was last night plunged into acute international embarrassment after it emerged that large parts of the British government's latest dossier on Iraq - allegedly based on "intelligence material" - were taken from published academic articles, some of them several years old.
Amid charges of "scandalous" plagiarism on the night when Tony Blair attempted to rally support for the US-led campaign against Saddam Hussein, Whitehall's dismay was compounded by the knowledge that the disputed document was singled out for praise by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, in his speech to the UN security council on Wednesday.

Citing the British dossier, entitled Iraq - its infrastructure of concealment, deception and intimidation in front of a worldwide television audience Mr Powell said: "I would call my colleagues' attention to the fine paper that the United Kingdom distributed... which describes in exquisite detail Iraqi deception activities."

But on Channel 4 News last night it was revealed that four of the report's 19 pages had been copied - with only minor editing and a few insertions - from the internet version of an article by Ibrahim al-Marashi which appeared in the Middle East Review of International Affairs last September.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4600667-103550,00.html

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Downing St admits blunder on Iraq dossier
Plagiarism row casts shadow over No 10's case against Saddam

Michael White, Ewen MacAskill and Richard Norton-Taylor
Monday February 10, 2003

Guardian



snip:
It emerged yesterday that the dossier issued last week - later found to include a plagiarised section written by an American PhD student - was compiled by mid-level officials in Alastair Campbell's Downing Street communications department with only cursory approval from intelligence or even Foreign Office sources.

Though it now appears to have been a journalistic cut and paste job rather than high-grade intelligence analysis, the dossier ended up being cited approvingly on worldwide TV by the US secretary of state, Colin Powell, when he addressed the UN security council on Wednesday.

Downing Street yesterday toughed it out, insisting that what mattered was that the facts contained in the document were "solid" and helped make the case Tony Blair rammed home on BBC Newsnight. But the middle section of the dossier, which describes the feared Iraqi intelligence network, was taken, much of it verbatim, from the research of Dr Ibrahim al-Marashi without his knowledge or permission.

"In retrospect we should have acknowledged . The fact that we used some of his work does not throw into question the accuracy of the document as a whole, as he himself acknowledged on Newsnight last night, where he said that in his opinion the document overall was accurate," the No 10 spokesman conceded. "We all have lessons to learn," he added. The four officials originally named on the website version of the 19-page dossier include Alison Blackshaw, Mr Campbell's senior assistant, and Murtaza Khan, described as a news editor on the busy Downing Street website.

Professor Michael Clark, director of the International Policy Institute at King's College London, said presenting such intelligence material "invalidates the veracity" of the rest of the document. The shadow foreign secretary, Michael Ancram, called for a cabinet minister to oversee government information on Iraq.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4601552-103690,00.html




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US claims on Iraq called into question
Inspectors pick holes in Powell allegations and call for patience in carefully coded message to council

Jonathan Steele
Monday February 17, 2003

Guardian


http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4606426-103550,00.html

[Stockholm]

80. He is a lying shit

He knew the intelligence was cooked but choose to present the lies to the world.

[leesa]

81. This is same old, same old...blaming it on intelligence. The

intelligence agencies said loud and clear there was not enough reliable information..Colin is LYING.

[lonestarnot]

82. Shocking?

[twaddler01]

83. No n/t

[wordpix]

85. gotta wonder what's in it for Colon to keep obfuscating for BushCo

[DemoTex]

88. CYA

Same-same My Lai. Same-same Iran-Contra.

[zann725]

89. Sounds more like Pile-of-@#! just trying to redeem his place in history.

n/t

[LeftHander]

90. I didn't believe it....Colin....

Neither did nmost of the world....becasue it was a lie.

It guess if you convince yourself that a lie is true then when you say it it isn't really a lie anymore.

[muriel_volestrangler]

91. Interview available here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/help/3681938.stm

(audio, plus occasional screen shots - about 15 minutes and 4MB)

[tuvor]

93. To quote LynneTheDem: BULLSHIT! Worth bookmarking....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=36998

[06517Linda]

94. powell interview

I heard this on BBC, and I couldn't believe my ears. He is still a team player! What an ass!

[AntiFascist]

97. You may all be interested in this PlameGate timeline....

http://jakking.typepad.com/daily/files/plamegate_chronology_051119.doc

pointed to by Stop the Bleeding in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2046689#2050447

In it you can see that on many occaisions Dick Cheney and the rest of the Administration continued to promote the lie that Iraq was pursuing nuclear weapons even when continually faced with reports, even from the CIA, that the Niger documents and other evidence may not have been valid.

March 11 <2003>:

CIA issued a limited distribution assessment that said it does “not dispute” the IAEA’s assessment of the Niger documents. It claims they always warned the reports were fragmentary.

CIA’s WINPAC drafted SWPR 031103-04, Iraq’s Reported Interest in Buying Uranium From Niger and Whether Associated Documents Are Authentic for the Secretary of Defense. It repeated the arguments of the limited distribution assessment of the same date.

[duvinnie]

98. what's really shocking

is the amount of garbage in this story.

"best decision possible" (geez, let's tell that to the survivors families)

"ALL intel agencies were wrong" (um, how about that DSM?)

"off-target" (understatement of the decade)

"Everybody believed" (everybody in washington, eh?)

geez.....

[pinniped]

100. Lying SOB, have fun burning in the bowells of hell, colon bowell.

.

[Tight_rope]

101. FUCK HIM...I'm not falling for that, "WE WERE DOOPED" bullshit!

The Bush Administration took us to war for 3 reasons and 3 reasons only, "MONEY, OIL AND POWER". So Collins can just go fuck himself.

[MODemocrat]

102. What a bunch of bull coming from Colin Powell

"United States made the best decision possible based on information he now says was off-target".
He cannot deny the fact he got on television and spewed the same lies that Bush, Cheney etc. did.
They knew there were no weapons of mass destruction, just the same as they know that Sadam was not connected with 9-11, but it didn't keep all of them from repeating it over and over and over. They're still saying that. Colin Powell used to have some credibility, but, he whored for Bush just like so many others. Now they are all scramblng to write their books, make excuses for themselves.
Therefore, I don't believe Powell at all. He needs to let it go, just get over it.
:evilfrown: :evilfrown: :puke: :argh:

[The_Casual_Observer]

103. They were wrong to foist off a war based on what they KNEW to be

10 year old intelligence. His retelling of this tale is pathetic, and, as time slips by, isn't standing the test of time.