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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:43 AM
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Death row elder needed 2 injections
Death row elder needed 2 injections

SAN QUENTIN, California (AP) -- In the end, California's oldest condemned inmate did not seem quite as feeble as his attorneys made him out to be in their efforts to save his life.

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Having suffered a heart attack back in September, Allen had asked prison authorities to let him die if he went into cardiac arrest before his execution, a request prison officials said they would not honor.

"At no point are we not going to value the sanctity of life," said prison spokesman Vernell Crittendon. "We would resuscitate him," then execute him.

But the barrel-chested prisoner's heart was strong to the end: Doctors had to administer a second shot of potassium chloride to stop it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/01/17/allen.death.ap/index.html
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:47 AM
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1. Anyone else find Crittendon's statement ironic?
If the guy had had a heart attack when they placed him on the gurney, would they have done everything to save him just to turn around and kill him? This amounts to the same thing, really.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:50 AM
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4. Totally idiotic
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 08:04 AM
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8. How dare he try to die before they can kill him ?
The nerve! :sarcasm:
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 08:59 AM
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13. Sick ironic
How can he say they "value the sanctity of life" when they're in the process of murdering a man?
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:18 PM
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24. they are the leviathan
revenge is Theirs, sayeth Them.

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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:42 PM
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25. Not only idiotic, but surely classified as "cruel and unusual punishment"
.
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:19 PM
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35. Why do I keep getting this feeling
that I'm walking around in some Goerge Orwellian novel ?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:48 AM
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2. The uptake and obsorption rate in the elderly is generally slower--any
good doctor would know this.
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kutastha Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 08:40 AM
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12. uptake and absorption rate is slower...
of potassium chloride?
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:50 AM
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3. breathtaking in its stupidity:
"At no point are we not going to value the sanctity of life," said prison spokesman Vernell Crittendon. "We would resuscitate him," then execute him.

was crittendon even aware of what he said?! that's as rich as these prolifers who are pro-war. no disconnect here, uh-uh :crazy:
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Ben Ceremos Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:57 AM
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6. Killers
killing a killer. American justice is non-existent. The purpose of all the grandstanding about human rights, etc. by the US gov't. is to provide the officially sanctioned murderers/executioners with a semblance of legitimacy. Killing a human is wrong, especially when avoidable, as was the case with Allen.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:51 AM
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5. What a heartless and cruel statement.
As if he being healthy justifies the death penalty. The culture of life..er corruption at its best.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 08:02 AM
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7. OMG!
So they revive him because they value the sanctity of life? But they kill him afterward? Good god, how sick!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:52 AM
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18. Just as sick are
prisons that want to force mentally ill death row inmates to take their medications so that they can be considered "sane" so that they can fry, gas, or inject them. Pretty goddamned sick, huh?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:06 PM
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28. Exactly, particularly with the schizophrenic
whose brains are actually physically different, they medicate them just to fry them.

Fundies reject science, to them any mental disorder is caused by demons.
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Servotron Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:30 PM
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36. That would explain Herr Chimperor
Sure he was a cokehead and an alcoholic for decades, but demonic possession makes much more sense in his case. :evilgrin:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 08:04 AM
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9. I bet he is a repuke
what a moran.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 08:08 AM
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10. Crittendon = total imbecile.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 08:36 AM
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11. We must not cheat the hangman!
So much for capital punishment at a defense against the most dangerous of the dangerous.
This is an old-fashioned case of ritual revenge. California had to make an example of Allen.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:40 AM
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14. That "sanctity of life" tem has become a favorte of the idiots. Its
originator must be proud. I nominate it for the bullshit cover all statement of the decade. It will be hard to beat. It has no true meaning, and is handily employed in statements that are self opposing. The favorite language of Bushies. Probably also used by the justices who wrote the dissenting view on the Orgeon assisted suicide law. They said you don't have the right to die. I am so confused.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:53 AM
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15. This Repub Ass (Repub Assemblyman) uses the Frist method of diagnosis
"For 76 years old, he looked to be in remarkably good shape," said Republican Assemblyman Todd Spitzer, who witnessed the execution as a member of a legislative committee debating a moratorium on the death penalty.
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:07 AM
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16. Jesus H. Christ
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 10:07 AM by Stockholm
So-called "Pro-life" in all its glory! :crazy:

Quote of the day for the blogs
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:13 PM
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31. You got that right.
I'll second that one.:crazy:
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:46 AM
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17. what a bunch of sick fucks.
Same goes for any of the victims' families who might be rejoicing in his death.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:01 AM
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19. I hope the victims rejoice and feel vindicated.
And the Sick fucks who murder, get put down a lot more quickly now.

And the Sick fucks who don't see the difference between murder and punnishment for murder, well, I hope they never have a relative killed by one of these animals. This sick fuck was in his 40's when he had 3 people killed. He was completly culpable.

My only regret is he wasn't executed 30 years ago for it.

Amazing the interpretation of Sick Fuck, yes?
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:06 AM
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21. Wow... another sampling of "Pro-life" at its finest
And yet another example of sick f*...

Busy morning.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:19 AM
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22. Exactly
He had people killed while he was in prison. The death penalty is the only possible sanction we have to deal with lifers that cannot get along with people, even when they are under 24/7 babysitting.


And while your comments on the differences between murder and the punishment for murder are lost on most here, I get them. There's a difference between the taking of an innocent life, and the termination of a guilty one.

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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:03 PM
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27. the "difference?"
"And while your comments on the differences between murder and the punishment for murder are lost on most here, I get them. There's a difference between the taking of an innocent life, and the termination of a guilty one."

If there's a difference, as you say, why is it that the majority of the nations in this world have abolished the death penalty? The U.S. and is one of the FEW among industrialized nations that continues this disgusting practice.

Seems the rest of the world knows there is NO difference - murder is murder. But I'm sure it is "lost" on you.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:10 PM
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30. How many innocent Iraqis have been killed by Bush?
I am all for putting your philosophy to the test, let's apply it to the war criminals of the Bush dictatorship.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:08 PM
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29. What's the point of a clemency petition when
all you want is revenge?

Let's see how Bush and all the fundies feel about the death penalty when they are the ones facing the gallows for their crimes.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:02 AM
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20. Next up: Death row inmate kept on life support until date of execution.
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 11:06 AM by Solly Mack
"Justice" must be served.


What a warped little country America is...

Revenge isn't justice. Never has been - never will be.
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:51 PM
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26. I'm just waiting for a Terry Shaivo type situation
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 05:51 PM by Betty
someone on death row goes into a persistant vegetative state, and the same assholes who would want the person executed would insist on a feeding tube forever, because we cannot deny the santcity of life.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:21 PM
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32.  Yeppers. And you just know it'll eventually happen
unreal
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:05 PM
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23. amazing nobody ever seems to realize that LIFE IN PRISON...
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 02:16 PM by jus_the_facts
...is so much more inhumane than the death penalty...don't believe it...go spend a decade in prison and report back. :nopity:

on edit...if you're an advocate for life in prison...you're advocating torture... :think:
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:12 PM
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33. K&R... Now, to make the DP reciprocal to judge & jury who convict
the innocent.

Than would slow it down a bit.

Throw in the DA as well.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:17 PM
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34. Sanctity of life? What a pile of crap!
If they cared then why did the state kill him? What a stupid thing to say!
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