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Thom Little Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 04:20 AM
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Pot seeds might not produce a high, but Oregon court says they're legal
Smoking marijuana seeds may give you a headache, but it is apparently perfectly legal under state law, according to the Oregon Court of Appeals.

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state law says "Any person who knowingly or intentionally is in unlawful possession of less than one avoirdupois ounce of the dried leaves, stems and flowers of the plant Cannabis family Moraceae is guilty of a violation, punishable by a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000."

Although the law doesn't mention seeds, the Court of Appeals considered whether legislators might have made a mistake. But the court rejected that idea after noting that lawmakers had included seeds elsewhere in state law.

"The omission of seeds from that list of marijuana plant components was apparently not an oversight," the court wrote Wednesday.



http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1135997712130341.xml&coll=7
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 04:21 AM
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1. Go, Oregon! n/t
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 04:29 AM
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2. with this new protection for weed seed people of Oregon
I'd like to see a massive "Johnny Appleseed" like campaign by pot smokers of the
North West. I could imagine millions of pot seeds tossed in parks,yards,fields,
everywhere a seed might grow and overwhelm law enforcement by sheer numbers of plant locations. But seed smoking for a high? I don't know about that.
BTW, I lived in NYC and use local services for my pleasures..mostly commercial shit..
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 05:35 AM
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4. I used to dream of a light plane, sacks of seeds,
Edited on Sun Jan-01-06 05:37 AM by EST
and a lot of time to turn America green. Might have seen a little of that happen.

In the late seventies, there was a push among people I knew, to be sure every possible seed found a home on a bit of ground, somewhere. It is such a thrill to be somewhere new and suddenly realize you've been gazing at a familiar looking plant that nobody has seen-because no one expected to see it.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 12:43 PM
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8. in the '60's thay had a "Sow your Seeds Campaign".. Hippies were grazing
like cattle beside the freeways..
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 12:48 PM
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9. it is because the seeds have hemp oil, a replacement for Petrolium...LINK>
we could become independent form foreign oil and put family farmers back to work and clean up the air with agricultural hemp.. the paper mills, cotton farmers, and petroleum industry keep it illegal..

http://www.naihc.org/

http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 03:32 PM
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14. I'm with you on this idea...during WWII while HEMP was still
illegal our government developed a program,"HEMP FOR VICTORY" it called for farmers to grow HEMP in abundance
to help the War effort,as you know many daily useful products are gleaned from HEMP but HEMP was enemy #1 to
BIG OIL, DuPont,and others. I long for the day HEMP once again is legal to possess and smoke like George
Washington Franklin Jefferson Lincoln Bill Clinton and many many more.
Thanks for the sites and the feedback..
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 12:58 PM
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10. In the early 70's in Detroit there were many volunteer plants
growing all over the city. Some was found on the property of the 13th precinct police station.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 01:48 PM
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26. Considering that the 13th is almost on WSU's campus....
That's not too surprising. I can see some of those 70's hippies (some are now 50-something coworkers of mine) planting seeds there while high, thinking "Let's plant pot seeds at the precinct, won't that be fun". I probably know whoever did it. It is funny.
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Oreegone Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 01:43 PM
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12. I think it is more like
Johnny AppleWeed.....
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 04:42 PM
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15. We've to upgrade the dream with genetic engineering
If we can join the cannabis plant and nettles, then cannabis would become a shoot-based annual
and be impossible to kill, much like nettles are, god bless the hardiness of that stinging plant.

Cannabis combined with bamboo, or aspen trees, so that the plant would grow in clusters with shoots,
a very effective way for cannabis to grow... a sattiva root cluster 13,000 hectares in size... the future
is in the genetics lab. :-)

In the mean time, i agree with you, sewing a seed here and there is the best
civil disobedience in existance. Every dollar they waste picking my garden weeds
is a dollar they are not using to kill black people.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 07:17 PM
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19. thanks sweetheart...but what is a nettle?
we have here in NYC vast grassy areas where a particular kind of weed grows (not HEMP) heartily,everywhere
one looks this weed grows its the kind of picture I have for weed (HEMP). I often throw my seeds on the local
parkway but the Parks Dept. cuts the grass often so no growth. Its really a sin America doesn't once again allow HEMP for Commerce it surely would be a boon to the economy.

thanks again for the feedback
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 06:22 AM
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20. "Urtica dioica"
"common stinging nettle"
http://www.nettles.org.uk/
http://www.mountainnature.com/Plants/PlantsLatinNameResult.asp?ID=152&LatinName=Urtica+dioica

There is a hemp-nettle, but i can't locate a picture.

I have 4 ongoing nettle-wars in my garden. One patch is
over 30 square meters, a root system of leathery crabgrass
roots and the only way to kill it outside of salting the
ground with roundup, is to dig the whole patch up, meter
by meter. It is virtually impossible to erradicate that plant.
Its an impossible folly, like hoping to wipe out a mosquito
population with a fly swatter. Every root mass i dig up, new
ones sprout everywhere, after every rainstorm. I used a sythe
to trim a patch to the tround twice last summer, hoping that
by cutting them, the root mass would lose sustinance, but its
a long war that.

In my coup d'etat against one nettle patch, i planted a sycamore smack
dab in the middle (Acer pseudoplatanus) of one patch. The leaves from
the maturing tree will kill the patch after i'm dead. :-)

So myself losing a war against a plant in my own garden, i could only
dream of cannabis being that fertile.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 06:26 PM
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21. Thanks again sweetheart for the links I see what your
up against and it doesn't look pretty,.Kind of like fighting a war on terror (lol). Here in NYC we have a similar weed that looks like a cousin. It grows everywhere and serves no useful purpose. Now if those nettles
were hemples..I'd never have to buy weed again..

Thanks sweetheart...:hug: :hug: :hi:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 04:37 AM
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3. The sterilized seeds are legal
You can buy them as 'birdseed'. I think they are imported from China.

The fertile seeds are illegal, however. I believe the original tax law (1929?) describes 'marijuana' as the leaves, flowers and fertile seeds of the hemp plant. Technically, the stems are legal, too, as they are not 'marijuana'.

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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 06:43 AM
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5. "hemp seed" is in food I can buy at the local supermarket
in the breakfast cereal Hempola.
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Wise Doubter Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 01:25 PM
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11. "Technically, the stems are legal, too, as they are not 'marijuana'."
Technically, the stems are legal, too, as they are not 'marijuana'


Ha Ha ! I wish my distributor was not aware that STEMS and SEEDS are legal. Could do without so many...

:smoke:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 06:00 PM
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18. Too many seeds?
Have you any idea how much seeds go for on ebay these days?

The price is outrageous!
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 02:02 PM
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13. The Oregon court said even pot seeds are legal
They could still be illegal under federal law.

Pot seeds in Oregon now inhabit that same twilight zone as medical marijuana in states where it is legal. Legal under state law, illegal under federal law (I think).
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 04:47 PM
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16. here is a link to a place you can buy sewing-seeds
Just buy them and whatever about the stupid law.
Obvously they think their own laws are stupid, so there
is a whole industry selling seeds and growing materials
that people are obvously using to grow indoor tomatos,
cucumbers and strawberries. wink wink nudge nudge..
say no more...

http://www.cannabis-seeds.co.uk/
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 06:47 PM
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23. I'd be incredibly wary of buying hemp seeds online, internationally
That sseems like the kind of thing that would get a person into trouble, or even if it's technically legal, would get you watched very closely by the authorities.

Tucker
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 05:26 AM
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25. I agree
It depends if your buying the seeds to plant in washington DC's parks, or seeds
to grow in your closet. Obviously the latter, its better to stay off all "payment"
networks, electricity grids and all the systems they use to monitor people's
private lives.

Even better to get some seeds by a person-to-person transaction without traceability.

But was we were discussing civil disobedience by planting pot seeds on every
square inch of fertile public earth....

It could be a very fun form of civil disobedience... as if popular civil disobedience
were to force the hand, and 28 million american pot smokers were to plant 100 seeds
this year in a public park, each seed separtely sewed in a unique location, then that
would mean the drugs war nazis would have to find 280,000,000 pot plants. If the
majority of americans who support medicinal marijuana, were to plant 10 seeds, then
1,500,000,000 plants across america, and that is in addition to the growing traffic
of the illegal growers.

Since the seeds are legal, planting them is legal. Just don't grow it yourself.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 06:57 AM
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6. I'm not sure it would generate the desired effect,"
"But it appears to be OK." :rofl:

In other news, aspirin sales expected to rise sharply in 2006.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 12:41 PM
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7. how many old Hippies are still doing 99 yrs for 'a' seed in Texas since 68
:cry:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 05:33 PM
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17. interesting... good news...
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 06:33 PM
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22. America really has it's priorities in order.
To think we could be helping the starving in Darfur. But instead we're still blabbing about the age old bullshit of marijuana. A total and complete waste of everyone's time. Sick. And we wonder why America is such a piece of shit now. Our focus is in the wrong place. We could be educating, feeding, building new ways to convert energy, discussing world population...
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 07:10 PM
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24. Marijuana (or hem) seeds are rather nutritious
They also can be made into oils or lotions which are good for the skin.
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