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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:46 AM
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Australians receive (Chinese) inmate organs
UP to seven Australians have received kidney transplants from death-row prisoners executed in China, according to a report.

The recipients are among dozens of Australians who have travelled overseas and paid up to $50,000 for organ transplants.

At least two people from NSW have received kidney transplants in recent years believed to have come from executed prisoners in China, The Daily Telegraph reports.

Three Victorians and one patient from South Australia and Queensland are understood to also have undergone the procedure.

Monash Medical Centre's Dr Ian Main said a blow-out in Australian waiting lists for kidneys meant people were now willing to take their chances with overseas transplants.

http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,17608051%255E1702,00.html
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 09:53 AM
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1. Disgusting!
I truly hate the Chinese government.:grr:
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:20 AM
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10. i agree, but...
what level of disgust should we hold for those receiving said organs?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:07 AM
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2. Well the were going to die anyway ....
.... so why not use their kidneys. It doesn't make them less dead.

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:13 AM
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3. Yeah. They probably committed some horrible crime...
...like opposed the government.

It probably won't be long before the warmonger Bush implements similar programs here.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:32 AM
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4. The Death Penalty in China
Discriminatory
In China, the death penalty targets poor and marginalized groups including ethnic minorities, migrant communities, political dissidents, and so called "separatists". Since the “war on terrorism” began, Muslims in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region have been the target of intense crackdowns, and political dissidents may be labeled as 'terrorists' and sentenced to death, regardless of whether they have used or advocated violence, and regardless of whether they have been implicated in any crime.
Organ Trafficking
Amnesty International is very concerned about reports of the sale of organs harvested from executed prisoners without permission. While officials deny the practice, accusations have been made that prisoners are given blood thinners, and executed in a manner to preserve the organs, which are reportedly harvested right away and taken directly to hospitals. These reports are very disturbing, and would constitute very serious human rights violations.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/abolish/world/china/index.html
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:35 AM
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5. doesn't make you warm and fuzzy
knowing that they own us? :sarcasm:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:04 AM
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7. Know your BFEE: The China-Bush Axis
These murderers are economic-political allies of the Bush Family Transnational Criminal Enterprise.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5333644

Would the whole world understood. Thanks for giving a damn, sasha031. And a hearty welcome to DU!!!
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:37 AM
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12. thanks Octafish
excellent research, I have put it in favorites, I am sure you are familiar with the Chinese for trade also.
I am afraid of our future and present, how will we ever get things straight again, if they ever really were.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:17 PM
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19. This must be why it's illegal to sell one's own organs.
It's so governments can sell them.

Welcome to the ownership society.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:32 AM
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11. Serve them right if donors had Hep C, B or HIV
The Chinese government is probably not too concerned about testing the prisoners or the safety of the recipients.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:07 AM
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8. Exaggerated pessimism?
"It probably won't be long before the warmonger Bush implements similar programs here."

Are the Republican poll numbers so bad that Bush wants to try to create a civil war rather than permit another Presidential election?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:14 AM
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9. No exaggeration. Bush is a warmongering NAZI bastard.
The fuckhead -- through his daddy's packed Supreme Court -- stole the 2000 election; implemented tax policies to benefit his ultrarich pals and penure the middle class; ignored evidence that Osama was determined to strike in the United States; used the 9-11 attacks as a pretext for war with a country that had nothing to do with 9-11 and was no threat to the United States; tortures prisoners and suspects without who've never been charged with a crime, including children; and spies on the American people who oppose him. To boot, there's much more. So, what is there in his personal makeup that leads you to believe he's not capable of using his own people as an organ bank farm?
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:36 PM
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14. What is the topic?
"It probably won't be long before the warmonger Bush implements similar programs here."

"So, what is there in his personal makeup that leads you to believe he's not capable of using his own people as an organ bank farm?"

We were discussing what probably will or will not happen before long. Perhaps I am wrong, but I think that what someone is capable of is a different issue.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:41 PM
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17. The topic: Bush is a mass murderer capable of harvesting human organs.
The warmongering turd Bush and his supporters are more than capable of killing Americans in order to harvest their organs. When -- and if -- that happens is open to conjecture.

Please know I didn't change the subject to a fear civil war over halted presidential elections. I brought up a few things in the record that suggest Bush possesses the criminal lineage and acts as a dictator and mass murderer.

For example: Bush thinks 30,000 Iraqi civilians, “more or less,” have died in his illegal invasion. More than 2,400 American service men and women have died for a lie—to protect the nation from non-existent WMDs.

Therefore, yes, there is more than enough in Bush’s background to make him capable of bringing such policies as organ harvesting to the United States.

Here’s some more on the subject of how the cursed crazy monkey got to be that way:



PROCTER & GAMBLE - The links with the US eugenics movement

Eugenics


One of the most alarming of the Elite's doctrines is that of eugenics - controlling human reproduction in order to reduce the number of those that the Elite perceive as inferior to create a 'master race' with 'desirable' genetic characteristics. Eugenics had its highest public profile in Nazi Germany but the policies began a long time before Hitler and are continuing to the present day.

SNIP…

The First International Congress of Eugenics was held in London in 1912 and was attended by a certain Winston Churchill. By 1917, fifteen US states had eugenics laws to sterilise epileptics, the mentally ill and regular criminals. On the agenda of the Third International Congress in 1932 was the 'problem' of African-Americans which, according to the delegates, revealed a need to sterilise to 'cut off bad stock'. At this meeting were several Nazis, including Dr Ernst Rudin, who had been enabled to attend by the Hamburg-Amerika Shipping Line, owned by the Harriman and Bush families. On returning to Germany, Rudin, who was funded by the Rockefellers, supervised the policy of sterilising those who were retarded, deaf, blind or alcoholics.

SNIP…

George Bush is a major voice in the eugenics movement and is surrounded by like-minded people - Boyden Gray (his legal advisor) and William Draper III (head of fund-raising for his 1980 presidential campaign). Draper's grandfather had unsuccessfully urged eugenics policies on Eisenhower before convincing Johnson to adopt them. In 1969 Bush was involved in hearings into the 'dangers of too many black babies' and when he became ambassador to the UN in 1972 he arranged for the Association of Voluntary Surgical Contraception (formerly the Sterilisation League) to extend its policy of sterilising young children with 'low' IQ to non-white countries. This was further extended when Bush became president in 1988.

CONTINUED…

http://www.trunkerton.fsnet.co.uk/Eugenics.htm



BTW: Welcome to DU, Boojatta! Where ya been?
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:03 PM
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15. No, but it ususally hastens their death because
the jailer gets some of the loot. And we all know that there are no innocent people in jail or on death row anywhere. :sarcasm: And what the hell, dead is dead, s/he won't need that organ anyway, Right.

Ah, the milk of human kindness. :sarcasm:
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 10:50 AM
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6. I'd rather die
than live by using an organ of an executed person from China.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:41 AM
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13. Ditto Caretha
It's amazing what lengths people will go through to continue on with their miserable existence at the expense of another.
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:03 PM
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18. If I'm going to be killed I'd like to have my organs donated
This is a terrible story and we can all see the horrors of a Nazi like organ donation "business." However, I wouldn't be sure that the person who was murdered by the state would not want some good to come of this-saving a life. I'd want that.
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bushcrab Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:37 PM
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16. "line up the prisoners, Queensland just faxed in another order!"
Wow, talk about outsourcing!
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