Challengers target (Hillary) Clinton on Iraq issue

[sabra]

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Challengers target Clinton on Iraq issue
War opponents seek nomination to U.S. Senate

By The Associated Press

Former Green Party member Steve Greenfield is formally announcing his candidacy for the Democratic Party's U.S. Senate nomination at an event today at Columbia University in New York City.

There's one big hurdle facing Greenfield. The seat is already held by a Democrat -- Hillary Rodham Clinton. And she's running for re-election.

Greenfield is an anti-Iraq war candidate who says the former first lady has been too supportive of the war.

Last week, another Democratic anti-war candidate announced his candidacy to unseat Clinton. Jonathan Tasini, a labor advocate and former president of the National Writers' Union, said Clinton's 2002 vote to authorize the war in Iraq proves she is out of step with New Yorkers.

[David Zephyr]

1. She brought this on herself. She deserves the competition.

Uh, oh! Looks like Senator Hillary Clinton's recent gratuitious undermining of Congressman John Murtha brave speech on Iraq has resulted in a competitor now for her Senate seat.

Oops, Hillary, you went just a tad too far and now you may have cooked your own goose.

Anyone who takes this challenge lightly is foolish to do so.

Hillary brought this on herself.

Moreover, if the Democrats do not quickly organize a serious primary challenger to Joe Lieberman, they are inviting another credible Green challenger in Connecticut during the general election there, too.

Don't blame the Greens for this. Hillary and Bill just got a little too smart for their own good.

Hillary's undermining of John Murtha was reprehensible.

[The Magistrate]

5. These Two Combined, Sir

Will not get more than a sixth of the primary vote....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[David Zephyr]

10. You are most likely correct.

I don't doubt that the good people of New York would turn a seat in the U.S. Senate to a Republican again after Al "Whitewater" Al D'Amato proved himself to be such a corporate whoring jerk.

Still, should Hillary keep up her latest antics, she could see more than 1/6th of the General Election vote going Green. The Green Party is growing every year and in the most liberal places in the country. Matt Gonzalez nearly won the Mayoral race in San Francisco against a very liberal Democrat.

Hillary's continued cozyiness up with George Bush's war policies in Iraq insults and infuriates a lot of great progressives in New York and beyond the Empire State.

John Murtha is correct about the War. Hillary is wrong.

[papau]

6. "undermining of John Murtha" - what action by Hill gets this definition?

She said she was not signing on to his program as stated in his speech (Dean and Pelosi have signed on to Murtha's position). Indeed she said a decision on withdrawing from Iraq should be deferred until after national elections there next month -"I don't think realistically we know how prepared they are until we get a government on December 15," she is quoted as saying, in remarks to an audience in New York, by the Washington Post 11/22. "My approach is we tell them we expect you to meet these certain benchmarks and that means getting troops and police officers trained, equipped and ready to defend their people," Clinton said in widely-reported remarks.

She did nothing to advance the Murtha position - so this is undermining?

Only the right wing blogs and sites like NewsMax called her statements "undermining" -

Has some liberal site now come on board with the GOP and called her statement an "undermining"?

Has any site not dedicated to her not running for President called her statement "undermining"?

[David Zephyr]

11. Please. She threw a bucket of water on his fire when she didn't need to.

Are you actually insinutating that I'm a rightwinger?

Actually, I was being gracious. Her uncalled for statement right after Murtha's was far worse than undermining, it was treacherous.

[papau]

12. No I am not saying you are a rightwinger - of course not - but a different

opinion is not underminning - at least IMHO.

I grant you the bucket of water on his fire when she didn't need to - and I wish she had signed on as Dean and Pelosi have signed on - and I do not understand why she has not signed on.

But she is a contrast to our Illinois hero Rahm E who has undermined - or come damned close to doing so

and I was a cheerleader for him for a long time.

[David Zephyr]

13. Well, then we agree.

And Rahm really made my jaw drop. I still am left dazed and confused by his mouth.

[Doctor_J]

15. Oh yeah

the Dems blew a huge opportunity after the WAR HERO MUrtha stuck his neck out when no one else would. The usual hemming, hawing, and Smirk-enabling ensued. If every Dem in Congress had just jumped aboard the bandwagon, it would have had enough momentum to trample * on his next attempt at a dodge. If they'd all praised Murtha and fired on Smirk, Limpballs wouldn't have known where to point his next lie.

[prog dude]

17. Best Hope for Victory (Right Now)

If you look at the electoral map, She has the best hope of tipping the scales, particularly if the Reps run a Northeasterner like Romney or Rudy.

She'll run from the center... that's all she's doing with all this.

Bill did the same thing.

[MrBenchley]

2. Talk about DINO's!

There bozos have been Democrats for what, 20 minutes?

[Freddie Stubbs]

3. Great news for Hillary

With two of these guys in the race, she doesn't even have to get a majority fo the vote to get the nomination.

[VegasWolf]

7. Hillary getting the nomination is the problem that a worries alot of us!

[Freddie Stubbs]

8. But probably not enough NY Democratic voters

to cause her not to be reelected.

[VegasWolf]

9. Oops! Sorry! I meant the Democatic nomination for President! nt

[VegasWolf]

4. All Right!!! An anti-war candidate!!! nt

[mtnsnake]

14. Oh I'll bet Hillary is just shuddering in her boots!

Greenfelt will be mincemeat pie.

Next?

[prog dude]

16. She'll Win

The nomination is hers to lose. Being moderate on national security doesn't make her a DINO.