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Thom Little Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:45 PM
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Allawi predicts a 'bloody chain of evil'
Iraq is likely to descend into civil war, unleashing a wave of "evil forces" around the world, if the current government is returned to power in this week's elections, the former prime minister warned yesterday.

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Dr Allawi believes this is the last chance to prevent Iraq collapsing into fiefdoms run by sectarian militias. There are strong signs that this is already happening, with the police being infiltrated by militias linked to parties in the ruling Shia Muslim coalition.

"If Iraq continues down this route, Iraq will dismember and fragment," Dr Allawi said at his guarded home in Baghdad. "When it fragments, God forbid, it will be quite bloody. Not only for Iraq. It will trigger a chain in the whole region, and perhaps beyond, which cannot be controlled, and this will unleash evil forces throughout the world."

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"The stakes are very high in this election," he said. "Imagine that the same group comes to power for a further four years and maintains the current situation. Everyone will get hit, not just the opposition. The opposition will be vulnerable to liquidation."



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/12/12/wirq112.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/12/12/ixnewstop.html
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:48 PM
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1. Has this guy been reading Revelations?
--It will trigger a chain in the whole region, and perhaps beyond, which cannot be controlled, and this will unleash evil forces throughout the world."--
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:39 PM
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9. No he's probably reading the wet-dreams of the neo-cons and their crazy
ideas about creative destruction.Some of them couldn't wait for the Iraq war to unleash total madness that would leave the middle eastern Arab countries fragmented and weak -- leaving their oil ripe for us; bases well we will -- and Israel the pre-eminent power in the region (after us of course.) As Mark LeVine (History prof at UC Irvine) finally realized one day -- things couldn't have gone more wrong in Iraq unless they were planned that way all along.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 07:45 AM
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14. Things couldn't have gone more wrong in Iraq
Edited on Mon Dec-12-05 07:45 AM by DoYouEverWonder
unless they were planned that way all along.

Yep, that's the plan. The PNAC plan. Too bad no one wanted to believe us 3 years ago when we were called conspiracy theorists for trying to tell people about this plan.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:50 PM
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2. Dr Allawi is as hilarious as Dr. Rice
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 10:50 PM by 0007
.......and .....and ....... and this will unleash evil forces throughout the world.

'0 my fucking God'
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:50 PM
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3. He sounds like Cheney....
in 2004. Must be the same speech-writer.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 10:55 PM
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4. Oooh, "evil forces"
Who d'ya think is gonna get blamed ten years from now for the clusterfuck that this will become? I think we better find some allies now and start kissing up to them big time or we're gonna be all alone when the rest of the world comes to kick our ass.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:04 PM
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5. Allawi is a thug and a murderer. He is right, but he is no better. n/t
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:28 PM
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6. Hand picked Alawi.....imagine that.
Sounds like a campaign speech like when Cheney said vote for dubya or else.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:30 PM
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7. "same group comes to power for a further four years "
We feel your pain.

You made your bed. Lay in it.


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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 11:32 PM
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8. If things are that grim, then perhaps Saddam was doing a good job
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 11:36 PM by daleo
Of course Allawi is phrasing things so that he is the indispensable man, but if he really thought Iraq was this unstable he should have never encouraged Bush to go down this path.

On edit: This part is good. He wants to go best two out of three:

"He is one of the London exile politicians, whose popularity has barely spread from Baghdad's middle class. While guests at his home receive tea Arab-style, he has it in a cup and saucer, as he did when he was a GP in London.

The land of the cup and saucer will beckon again if he fails to dislodge the ruling coalition. "I won't resign from politics, I will keep on fighting, but I will change my methods and probably even my location," he said. "It could be London, or elsewhere.""

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:19 AM
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10. It'll be London. If he wants to stay alive.
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:36 AM
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11. He told Bremer not to disband the Iraqi Army
That was the fatal flaw.
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:38 AM
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12. Allawi is totally right though
the Shia religious parties make their own state in the south which they will do if they win they will take all the oil with them. The Sunnis will fight forever to make sure they aren't left economically with nothing.

The prescription is endless war.
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:40 AM
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13. That sounds so ominous. Procure the duct tape NOW !!
The former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said this:


“We've pulled out of several places without achieving our objectives, and every time we predicted the end of Western civilization, which it was not. We left Korea after not achieving anything we wanted to do, and it didn't hurt us very much. We left Vietnam -- took us ten years to come around to doing it -- but we didn't achieve what we wanted. Everyone said it would set back our foreign policy in East Asia for ten years. It set it back about two months. Our allies thought we were crazy to be in Vietnam. We could have the same thing happen this time in Iraq. If we walk away, we are still the number-one superpower in the world. There will be turmoil in Iraq, and how that will affect our oil supply, I don't know. But the question to ask is: Is what we are achieving in Iraq worth what we're paying? Weighing the good against the bad, we have got to get out.”

– Admiral William Crowe, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the 1980s.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 08:55 AM
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15. Okay, we've had an axis, now a bloody chain

How about an industrial dog-food mincer of evil? We've never had one of them. Or a poisoned skewer! Yes! How evocative. What about "great ghostly pall"? or a magic marker of evil? or a lardy fucker of evil? Or a monster munch of evil? Or a Satanic Carnival of Evil?!?!?! That'd be GREAT!

These people have little imagination.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:39 AM
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17. Deluxe egg slicer of evil
it could really sell!!!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 10:33 AM
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19. Maybe it's a mistranslation.
Maybe there's a word in their language which means both "Axis" and "Bloody chain"

Anyway, I cast my vote for "Conga line of evil"
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:03 PM
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21. Now you've done it. I'm going to have to put up a poll... n/t
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:10 AM
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16. "Maybe even a mushroom cloud," he read from borrowed notes.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 10:30 AM
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18. and this will unleash evil forces throughout the world."
Cheney and Bush* are having orgasms about this. This is exactly what they want. It will give them the excuse to further the occupation to neighboring countries like Syria and Iran..
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 10:36 AM
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20. How many assassination attempts on him?
The tomatoes and shoes a couple of weeks ago were said to be an assassination attempt by his staff; they may very well have been telling the truth and NOT spinning. Then, last week I saw (one mention, no updates) of gunmen storming his office.

Meanwhile, Chalabi smiles and gives the parade wave.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 12:09 PM
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22. Yeah, he's a real svengali
Nothing like stating the obvious....

"If Iraq continues down this route, Iraq will dismember and fragment," Dr Allawi said at his guarded home in Baghdad. "When it fragments, God forbid, it will be quite bloody. Not only for Iraq. It will trigger a chain in the whole region, and perhaps beyond, which cannot be controlled, and this will unleash evil forces throughout the world."

"...will unleash"??? The accurate terminology would be "this will further empower evil forces throughout the world." Those evil force being BFEE and their friends/associates. And this guy ought to know since he's on the roster. "Evil forces" indeed!

Julie
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 05:34 PM
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23. Bloody chain of evil or Evil Cheney of Blood? n/t
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