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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:08 AM Original message |
What Viveca Novak Told Fitzgerald (by Viveca Novak) |
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Cheney Killed Bambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Ouch |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. This sounds to me like a Hail Mary by Rove and Luskin |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:05 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. How is it a Hail Mary for Rove? |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Why do you believe it's NOT a Hail Mary by Rove? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Because the information was withheld from Fitzgerald, and the |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. IMHO, that's pretty weak, if that's what they were doing. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. You're having trouble believing that this administration counts on |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. If you've read ANY of my previous posts, you would know.... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I'm trying to find a common thread in this new Novak testimony, |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. You're twisting the words in my posts, counsellor....I suggest that you... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Testy, aren't we? |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. I guess you can't deal with someone unwilling to put up with your crap. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Pimms drinker. |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. It's a Hail Mary because once Rove knew he was caught, they HAD |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Hi Vinnie. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
71. I fear that you may be right. |
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wishlist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. If she was gathering info talking to Luskin, why didn't she keep notes? |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Note that she said nothing about taping the conversation. |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. I also found it hard to believe that she didn't know Luskin was Rove's |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
56. That's a major issue over at the conversation |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. why would she keep this from her editors? Didn't she learn the cover-up |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
5. Journalists are going down like bowling pins |
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Halliburton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
6. am I missing something? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I don't really see it either. |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. The help really came when she tipped Luskin off that there was more to the |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:31 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I Don't Think It Will Be That Much Help |
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Halliburton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. it hardly helps |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. My guess at how it helps Rove is timing. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
10. I wonder if Luskin violated attorney-client privilege in his conversations |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. It's disgraceful. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. "Access" |
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virgdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Very true... |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. the tragic fact is.... |
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Wordie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
51. We ought to kick up a HUGE stink about this. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
70. you slip me a favor and i'll slip you one--Federal Justice dismissed |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. I wonder if he violated Grand Jury secrecy rules |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
54. I don't think that people hauled in front a GJ |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 06:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I know Rove can talk to whoever he pleases |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 07:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. I am not a lawyer |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
12. If I screw up and say something I shouldn't have said |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Good point. |
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Halliburton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. maybe Luskin didn't want her to reveal his weak hand? |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. Totallly agree lwfern. Whenever I have made a big slip-up in my life, |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
19. What a sloppy reporter! She takes no notes and entirely misses a March |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I wonder how the law views recording conversations like that? Is it.... |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
63. Could be, but to tell a Fitzgerald that under oath would not be wise,would |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
24. She still won't come clean. What a dirtbag she is. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. Maybe she's competing with Judith Miller |
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quaoar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
52. You have obviously |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 06:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. That's true, I haven't. |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
28. I beginning to wonder if this was all a ploy to confuse the GJ & |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
29. Plastic Surgeons and the Press.... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
31. What a Bunch of Prima Ballerinas |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
36. This whole account stinks to high heaven! |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
65. My thoughts exactly...."It has a very nasty odor". |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
37. Not good for Rove, especially if you bear in mind that Luskin wanted |
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madmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
38. What she did is not in the same mold as what Woodward did; |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. At the least she should be fired |
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wordpix2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
39. if it's such a little deal, why did Fitz speak with her for 2 hrs.? |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
41. Does this create reasonable doubt that Rove deliberately lied? |
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Bumblebee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Don't think so. Timing is of essence. Just means he got scared when it |
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demgrrrll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Can you even begin to imagine how angry Fitzgerald is right now? |
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virgdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
49. There is something that has always bothered me... |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. It's bothered me too. No explanation yet. n/t |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
50. Sometimes I think a side plan of Rove and Co. is to first use the |
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quaoar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
53. You have to wonder why Luskin didn't quit as Rove's lawyer |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
57. Didn't they already make that movie?? "Secrets & Lies" |
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The Witch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
64. She makes it all sound soooo innocent. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
66. Heres a point Why didn't Luskin tell Fitz the conversation early |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
68. Cough cough |
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
69. It sounds like a cheap trick to me |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Well Fitz better INVESTIGATE THOROUGHLY or he is going |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
73. Viveca Novak, media whore extraordinarie |
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