Poll: Bush's Ratings Bottom Out

[seriousstan]

There is good news and bad news in this poll for President George W. Bush. Americans have become more positive about the economy; more than half think the economy is in good shape, an 8-point increase since October.

The President’s overall approval rating has risen from 35 percent in October to 40 percent now, and his ratings on handling the economy and the war in Iraq have also improved.

But while this poll shows some improvement in Americans’ views about how the war in Iraq is going, most continue to say it is going badly. Americans remain firm in their desire for U.S. troops to at least start coming home, and would like to see a timetable for that process.

Although President Bush has said he will not do this, 58 percent of Americans want the United States to set a timetable for troop withdrawal.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/07/opinion/polls/main1107196.shtml

[bemildred]

1. Ohh, a ratings "spike". nt

[UpInArms]

13. I noticed that A(lways)B(roadcasting)C(rap) went on the "positive"

for *Co about a week ago - nothing but "good" news and rah-rah-rah - I was surprised to note that Woodward did not wear a cheerleader's costume.

[bemildred]

14. Woodward is a warmonger.

He could suck the lead from a pencil.
"Bush at War".
What else do you need to know?
Knight-Ridder is the only US press organization I have any respect for at all, and they are bankrupt.
I figure we are on our own when it comes be being informed citizens.

[Gyre]

26. Self-centered coward is more apt. n/t

[bemildred]

31. I defer to your superior judgement.

:thubmsup:

[trogdor]

33. More like a dead cat bounce.

You watch.

[AX10]

2. This could also be good feeling during the holiday season too.

A recession may come next year.

[WCGreen]

41. I agree...

At this time of year, people are much more positive about world around them...

I pointed this out late last month when the Bush numbers started to track up....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2270677

[Deja Q]

3. Xmas sales. People are as dense as usual.

Wait until February when gas prices skyrocket again. His #s will go down.

And they won't get anywhere near election-winning levels until we all have good paying jobs again (hah! I'm more likely to get married to a Playboy magazine model...)

[sonicx]

4. 35 to 40 is going from "very shitty" to just "shitty" nt

[jackbourassa]

25. Don't dispare good Dems...

All that happened was that his idiot hard-core supporters started coming back to him.

40% is still a very shitty number.

His supporters began to abandon him over:

1) Katrina

2) Harriet Myers (I think this had more to do with it than anything)

3) Gas prices.

So gas prices levelled off, Myers was replaced by Scalito, and the press got the memo from New Orleans. All is well in Bushland again according to the dittoheads.

The only problem for Bush is that everyone else thinks he's a major league asshole. He's lost the independants for good.

P.S. 40% is still lower than anything Clinton ever got.

[central scrutinizer]

5. could be no change - look at the MOE's

the margins of error overlap so it is possible that there has been no change at all. With a 3% margin of error, 35% and 40% are not significantly (in the mathematical sense of the word) different.

edited for spelling

[hippiechick]

6. "Americans are positive about the economy" ???

... as CBS news just finishes a story about Ford cutting 30,000 hourly jobs, the prediction that the bottom is going to fall out of the housing market within the next year, and many companies are now trying to get out of their 'responsibility' to pay pensions ...


:wtf: What ARE these optimistic 'Murkans smoking ??? :smoke:

[IChing]

15. Didn't get the news from Miniplenty? Did you? shame

Ministry of Plenty

"THIS MORNING, MINIPLENTY ANNOUNCED VICTORY IN THE BATTLE FOR PRODUCTION.
RETURNS NOW COMPLETED OF THE OUTPUT OF ALL THE CLASSES OF CONSUMPTION GOODS
SHOW THAT THE STANDARD OF LIVING HAS RISEN BY NO LESS
THAN TWENTY PERCENT OVER THE PAST YEAR.

ALL OVER OCEANIA THIS MORNING THERE WERE
IRREPRESSIBLE SPONTANEOUS DEMONSTRATIONS
WHEN WORKERS MARCHED OUT OF FACTORIES AND OFFICES AND
PARADED THROUGH THE STREETS WITH BANNERS VOICING THEIR GRATITUDE
TO BIG BROTHER FOR THE NEW, HAPPY LIFE
WHICH HIS WISE LEADERSHIP HAS BESTOWED UPON US."

[hippiechick]

29. LOL ! I'm reading 1984 as we speak !!

... thought this was a good time for a refresher.

:scared: :hi:

[EVDebs]

17. I hear the DoD has been spiking the clouds with Lithium....

A super secret domestic operations project. They've put Lieberman on it secretly as one of the first experimental 'guinea pigs'.

Happyland is coming also by contact with dollar bills; you've heard how the Hundreds have traces of cocaine on them...well the Ones are being dusted with Lithium also.

[Megahurtz]

20. Lol spiking the clouds

with the Chemtrails! Actually, I wouldn't be surprised! Hahahaha!

[hippiechick]

30. Where do I find some coke laced dollaz ?

Dayum ! :woohoo:

[NYC Liberal]

7. How crappy a president do you have to be when it's 'good' news

that your approval has gone UP to 40 percent?

[stanwyck]

8. Oh, the Bushies have yet to

see the bottom. 2006 will show it to them.

[Junkdrawer]

9. Translation:

"Enough with this 'letting you know how your fellow citizens think' shit!. We'll trot the bumbler out on a PR tour and provide phony polls so that you believe your fellow citizens are stupid."

PS:

"Chocolate rations will be increased."

[Warpy]

10. It will continue to follow gas prices

which puts the little jerk onto the horns of quite a dilemma: does he sacrifice his own popularity to pay off his oil buddies, or does he stab his buddies in the back to gain a few popularity points?

Ah, decisions, decisions. I'm sure he needs a hug.

[RamboLiberal]

11. Wonder what effect home heating prices will have

I know I've been depressed and watching my thermostat since getting my first home heating oil bill this winter. $344 for 160 gallons - ouch! Be interesting to see where his ratings are after Xmas when all these bills will come due!

[kainah]

23. I think that's right

We have stood on a downtown corner in Laramie, WY every Friday night for nearly 3 years with signs saying, "Honk for Peace." One of the regulars has noticed a definite pattern between gas prices and the amount of honks we get.

I have another theory about why gas prices matter so much. There is no other commodity which has its price so loudly and boldly announced. How many gas stations do you pass every day? I can't think of any other commodity where the price is so much in your face. You feel affected by it, whether your tank is on full or empty.

[acmavm]

12. I do not believe this. Not for one minute. His ratings are not getting any

kind of bounce. What's happening is the media are getting nervous, they see their boy is tanking, so they're being very careful who they question, what they ask, and how they ask it. No way. Not when more people are saying they'd vote Democrat if they had the chance to vote again.

NO FRIGGING WAY.

[kainah]

24. another interesting piece

I saw an analysis of new poll numbers -- which, you'll notice stopped for a while because, as you say, the media was too nervous to ask the questions for a while -- and they pointed out that there's a very scary underlying number for the White House: the "strongly opposed" numbers are hardening and have now reached into the 40s.

So, these may show 40% approving -- and in some polls that number will be including "strongly approve" and "somewhat approve." What they're not saying is that there's more than another 40% who strongly disapprove.

[Tiggeroshii]

16. Funny how it has to go up* to 40%

I'm guessing it'll start going down as Fitzgerlad's been reconvening the Grand Jury and DeLay's trial heads to a start.

[agincourt]

18. In other news,

tooth decay, cancer, and getting ones fingers pulled out polled at 45, 43, and 38% respectively.

[Algorem]

19. didya see the happy soldiers having fun in Iraq on CBS news tonight?No

wonder Bush's ratings are up!Iraq is a fun,happy place for our military.Bob Schitfer was all happy too.It's all fun and happiness!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/07/eveningnews/main1107217.shtml

and last night CBS news and Bob Schitfer started showing happy stories of injured soldiers from Iraq instead of just the fortunate ones who are honored to be killed there.They showed a soldier who had her leg blown off there and now she's a marathon runner!What a great happy war this is!

[The_Casual_Observer]

21. We are in between bad news hits, these bastards know it

so they put out a quick poll.

[depakid]

22. CBS News- and I'm supposed to believe their polls?

Please. These people throw out cheap media poll's to back up whatever story they want to spin. They'll say anything- and if they don't have the results they want on hand- they'll hire some pollsters who'll design poll results they want.

The media's been doing this so long- and so few question it, that it's gotten to be the normal course of business.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

27. Come January, people will not be feeling so charitable

Especially when they get their heating fuel bills and watch their grocery prices spike.

[libodem]

28. His popularity is proportionate to the price of gas

As the price comes down his poll numbers go up

[DemonFighterLives]

32. Tweety was orgasmic last night

about dubby's poll numbers coming up. :rofl:
Coming from the sewer to the drain is a big plus. Whoa!
Any clear thinking person would not see any reason for him to come up. His speeches are so bad, that his polls should go down. Separatist, Saddamists, 911 - :puke:

[agincourt]

43. Boy what a suprise,

That tweety and other GOP rimjobs would be wetting themselves over a 5 pt. bump.

[DemonFighterLives]

45. What they fail to trumpet is that 53% disapprove

knucklehead is not rebounding, he is just getting jomentum.
Could Joe be helping? :puke:

[MrTriumph]

34. BOTTOM OUT? How do they know they won't go lower?

Same ol' corporate media.

[ihelpu2see]

35. Andrea Mitchel on Imus this morn. still touting the come back numbers

be prepared to see that head line again and again.. "Bush is resilient" Andrea says it is the growing economy and the positive news from Fridays press conf. ..... puke.... The home market has stalled, a second snow storm is about to hit the Northeast and it is not yet Winter and home heating costs are creeping higher and higher.... I'm sure the great economy will be able to keep money pouring in from our debtors in China and Japan!!

[Maggie_May]

36. Being proud of 40% approval is pretty sad.

I believe the approval number has risen because gas prices are lower. I know that its a sad excuse with everything else thats going wrong. People will feel differently when they receive their heating bills or shut of notices.

[Barrett808]

37. Dream on. I still predict Bush hitting the "Nixon floor" by May. n/t

[bdot]

38. Great, so they are positive about an economy that keeps gettings worse.

[Zorra]

39. Yuh...and I saw Elvis yesterday.

A nationwide sample of adults, drawn from the RNC membership rolls?

[Initech]

40. Who are the people who still support this jackass?

[digno dave]

42. I didn't think he would dip below 30...ever

unless they find Osama hidden on his ranch or something.

[BenDavid]

44. Isn't it amazing how

all the news media will follow suit with faux news and have their polls within a one or two point difference than faux.... two weeks ago faux finally had bush in the high 30's and was the last news media to poll, and now this week they were the first to come out that bush was at 42%. Followed by CBS at 40% and now ABC at 42%.Look for NBC to have bush at 44%....

I watched Lou Dobbs this afternoon and he and ole Bill S. were gushing about the new poll numbers form CBS that gave bush 40%. He is rebounding.. His message is getting through......