Microsoft to hire 3,000 in India

[Bhaisahab]

Microsoft Corp, the world's largest software maker, plans to increase the number of engineers working on its products in India to 7,000 from 4,000 over the next 2-3 years, chairman Bill Gates said.

Microsoft relies heavily on India's booming $17.2 billion software services industry to source quality skills at costs far below average Western salaries.

The planned increase in the number of engineers includes those working for Microsoft's Indian software vendors such as Infosys Technologies Ltd.

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http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=59625

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[mzmolly]

1. Perhaps Americans will have to immigrate to India to get work?

:eyes:

[StrafingMoose]

2. Outsourcing the West...

We're definitely in deep shite... I mean, you really want to compete with someone who's ready to code your next Windows OS for 7$ USD/hour ?

It's not just the "cheap labor" jobs anymore, we're talking about IT here.

[superconnected]

10. actually it's $4 an hour.

My microsoft friend who's sitting here knows.

[StrafingMoose]

15. wow.. even worse than I thought..

[Triana]

3. what an excellent time to switch to ....

...Mac OS X or Linux with OpenOffice...huh

[wordpix]

14. my sentiments, exactly---I'm buying a Mac next time around--Dell is

teh computer of choice at my workplace (a school) and this year 100s of new Dells were bought---there are problems galore. So much for outsourcing.

[okieinpain]

17. I'm a windows guy, and I agree with you. but isn't apple doing the

same thing.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. At the rate things are going, those companies will outsource, too.

[Dogmudgeon]

4. That's the last straw!

Just for that, I'm going to buy a 7-11!

--p!
That'll show them!

[FormerDittoHead]

5. So Bush's plans DO create jobs! Just not HERE! n/t

[Starbucks Anarchist]

6. "We have to hire them there so we don't have to hire them here."

Seems fitting.

[jody]

7. Thanks. n/t

[Phlem]

8. any guesses as to long term outsourcing effects?

I think it goes like this

Big business funds politicians

Big business outsources with the help of politicians

Big business gets filthy fat rich

Outsourced workers living conditions catch to the American standard because non of us have frickin jobs!

Jobs come back to the now poor US citizens cause wages are in line with the developing countries.

Big business becomes untouchable and obscenely rich.

You now have you future government.


F*@K!

Sorry for the depressing outlook but this is a serious problem that no one is addressing. I'm sure a Global economy is the future of business success, but at the cost of the US worker. Would someone please realize the human cost in outsourcing, Yeah we can all retrain, but how many frickin jobs can you re-train for and start at the bottom in a new company in one lifetime?

Rant off

Phlem

Where is the America I once knew.

[VegasWolf]

12. No guesswork needed. Just look at Japan in the 90's. nt

[area51]

22. Welcome to DU, Phlem.

Damn, offshoring is insane. We have people here who need jobs! And w/jobs being offshored, that's less tax money & that means less money for nazi wars, less money for social security, fire depts., police depts., road repair, etc. Nazis are so fscking stupid.

[joefree1]

9. India has a 67% import tax, USA has a 10% import tax

India has an exploding population of around 1.5 billion, rampant pollution, huge amount of corruption and no workers rights. I know, I worked there.

So tell me again how globalization is a good thing?

[VegasWolf]

11. That is why it it ideal for American CEOs to do business there. After

the tax breaks here for outsourcing and the tax breaks India gives you for hiring people there, it is almost free head count.

Of course, not so good for the rest of America.

:bounce:

[cosmicone]

25. India bashing

As an Indian-American, I find the India bashing quite unsettling.

While I quite understand the frustrations of American workers, jobs going from one place to another is nothing new. In the past, west had all the technology and the poor countries had the natural resources.

Did any of you shed tears when IBM sold computers to India which made a lot of Indians lose their jobs at the expense of IBM workers in the US?

When universities like U.Miss obtained US patents for technologies that have been used in India for thousands of years, how many complained? See: http://www.goodnewsindia.com/Pages/content/traditions/turmeric.html

I don't think it is the fault of India that its education system churns out millions of graduates who can work for $4/hr and still have a decent standard of living. There is no need to bash India as a nation which is far more progressive than the US and is a constitutional democracy. Indian labor unions are strong and workers have rights -- perhaps not as strongly as in the US but exponentially better than in China.

Someone mentioned that India has Import taxes of 67% which is not true. The tariffs have been reduced drastically and most US products enter India with 0-10% import duties.

The way I see this is that the US and EU were used to getting a very big slice of the economic pie at the expense of the rest of the world and now they are forced to share which is causing resentment.

The only way to look at this positively is that eventually the US and EU products will have a bigger market as the purchasing power of the Indian and Chinese middle class increases and the situation will equilibrate.

[superconnected]

13. India can't avoid the tech boom where jobs end up working their pay

up higher because there will be so many jobs, they have to compete to keep the workers.

They'll lose the companies to China within a decade.

If the US people want to put a stop to companies moving over seas and then selling us back their product - SINCE WE ARE THE BIGGEST MARKET IN THE WORLD FOR NEARLY EVERYTHING, then we simply have to stop buying those products, or charge high tarrifs. (since we didn't benefit from our workers getting paid to make the goods we are using).

While we don't charge high punnitive tarrifs and still buy the goods, we are enabling them.

[cornermouse]

16. Actually we will simply stop buying their products if for no

other reason than the fact that we have no job, so no money, so we won't be buying. And they will either have to completely reprice their products to the lower level of income or a large number of them will go broke and out of business.

Its the whirlpool effect. Growth which used to be a good thing is now bad because it cuts profits for the stock holders and profits on the stock market are the only thing they can live by when they stop producing items for sale. I think it will inevitably crash.

[okieinpain]

18. I agree, but where are we going to get someone with balls or

(boobs)big enough to do it.

[ramapo]

21. Not until....

enough Americans lose their jobs which might, but only might, be enough to snap them out of their comatose state. Once conscious the now "aware" American will have to get angry enough to bother demanding that their elected representative actually start representing their interests instead of those of the corporate "citizens" to which they are now beholden.

Simple...

[adigal]

19. Does Apple outsource??

When it is time for a new computer, I will not be buying a PC if Apple doesn't outsource.

Manufacturing jobs AND engineering jobs are all going overseas. This stinks. It is all about the stock prices going up, up, up for the wealthiest American investors.

[Megahurtz]

20. Oh Fucking Nice.

:sarcasm:

[high density]

23. I guess I need to go to community college

Clearly a computer science degree is worthless in America.

[Occulus]

24. Eliminate corporate personhood. n/t

[VegasWolf]

26. Well, they could easily have found 3,000 engineers in the Bay Area, but

they would cost more than $10.00 an hour. Guess Microsoft needs the money.

:puke:

[Clara T]

27. As did GM

A few days back there was news of GM laying off what 30,000(?) workers possibly but what wasn't mentioned except in the India press was that GM had also announced new plants to go up in India and new hires in India.

Globalization

[Coastie for Truth]

28. I am getting ready for a GOP Victory in 2008

I am brushing up on my Assembler and Fortran.

I now have Nan Bread with every meal.

I am developing a taste for curry and eggplant.

I have a Ganeesh idol on my bookshelf.

My wife is a vegetarian.

And I am learning Hindi (Namastay).

[complain jane]

29. Bush's Initiative: NO JOB LEFT BEHIND

But, then again I guess those are just more of those jobs that, y'know, Americans won't do.

[The_Casual_Observer]

30. source quality skills at costs far below average Western salaries

You get what you pay for - That is one thing that never changes.