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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 10:24 PM Original message |
LAT/AP: Analysis Casts Doubt on Vietnam War (Gulf of Tonkin) Claims |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. kicked and nominate |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm sorry but this is not news. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Yes, it IS news! It is a new revelation. And by creating a subject line, |
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KellyW (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
3. a footnote |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 05:44 AM Response to Original message |
4. the link is gone... |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
5. Links to some other story. Here's another source > |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
6. James Bamford covers this |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
7. 54,000 boys died for that one. |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. The usual suspects. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 11:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
21. If war is the price we have to pay to keep our arms manufacturers |
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StrafingMoose (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. CIA director McCone in 64-65 owned 1 million worth of stock... |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
9. related: Vietnam War Intelligence 'Deliberately Skewed,' Secret Study Says |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 08:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results |
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tvfipp (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
11. Analysis Casts Doubt on Vietnam War Claims |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. So how does this work? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Haven't we known about this for decades? |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Just because Gulf of Tonkien was untrue its not SOP to lie about |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Read "Day of Deceit" by Robert Stinnett about Pearl Harbor.... |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. At the war museum in Hanoi are two torpedo tubes .. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That was not the day upon which the "Gulf of Tonkin Resolution" was.... |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
15. SO SORRY -- LAT CHANGED THE LINK. THANKS FOR ALTERNATE LINKS |
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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
16. US Vietnam intelligence 'flawed' (BBC) |
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gordianot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. Fool me once(Vietnam), shame on you. Fool me twice--"ask Bush" |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
23. Analysis Casts Doubt on Vietnam War Claims |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. What I thought was interesting about the report was that |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Of course such theories have been around since the incident |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. maybe look at LBJ and kellogg, brown, root connection -- $$ |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Everybody has known that "incident" was bullshit for at least 30 years. |
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newscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Yeah, I learned that in high school and that was almost 30 years ago. |
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Stand and Fight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Who's had their head up their hindquarters? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Deleted message |
RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. The Bushies were trying to block the release of this info |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. If it's proven the root causes for Vietnam were phony... |
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StrafingMoose (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
33. We know, we know... |
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StrafingMoose (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-02-05 09:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I think people from Austin |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. If that's true, it shows how corrupt LBJ was behind the scenes |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
35. Faulty (or cooked?) intel. may have led America into Vietnam |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
37. I think Johnson was duped by war mongering CIA cowboys. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yeah, but Kennedy was harder to dupe |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-03-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I agree, he was harder to dupe, and that is why they killed him. |
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