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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 07:58 AM
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The men who ask the questions (Lockheed Martin's private interrogators)
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 08:10 AM by DoYouEverWonder
Nov 19, 2005

WASHINGTON - Dozens converged this summer on the US high desert town of El Paso, Texas, en route to spending six months in Iraqi prisons.

They were going not as prisoners, but as interrogators, walking a legal tightrope that stretches across the Geneva Conventions. Just for signing up, they got a US$2,000 check from a company that is rapidly becoming one of the key employers in the world of intelligence: Lockheed Martin.

After a week of orientation and medical processing, they flew to Tampa, Florida, and on to their final destinations - Iraq's infamous prisons, including Abu Ghraib, Camp Cropper near Baghdad International Airport and Camp Whitehorse near the southern Iraqi town of Nasariyah.

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"Over the last decade, Lockheed, the nation's largest military contractor, has built a formidable information-technology empire that now stretches from the Pentagon to the Post Office," wrote Tim Weiner. "It sorts your mail and totals your taxes. It cuts Social Security checks and counts the United States census. It runs space flights and monitors air traffic. To make all that happen, Lockheed writes more computer code than Microsoft."

The national security reporter for the New York Times explained how Lockheed gets its business: "Men who have worked, lobbied and lawyered for Lockheed hold the posts of secretary of the navy, secretary of transportation, director of the national nuclear weapons complex and director of the national spy satellite agency."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GK19Ak03.html


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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:19 AM
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1. The scum always rises to the top of the pot. eom.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:23 AM
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2. jesus, i'm creeped out now.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:26 AM
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3. Remember Jeff Gannon?
His boss, Bobby Eberle was a Lockheed Martin exec. Makes you wonder what else these bastards have their hands in?

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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 08:40 AM
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4. Lockheed sorts my mail?
Guess that explains how I received a letter form Manchester, NH yesterday. Only problem-it was supposed to go to the City of Industry in CA. I'm in Austin, TX...
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 09:00 AM
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5. We need to cut the money that goes to DOD and not for the fighting men
It is hard to get it in ones mind how bad DOD has become under Bush.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:28 AM
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6. Lock Mar sux in a major way!
I worked for a division of GE that was bought by L-M & I will tell you they are skunks of the very worst stripe. Govt contracting is an utter embarrassment. I was so disgusted I quit before they were absorbed, I made up my mid to not support this effort any longer. Huge salary cut, I will know if I was right or wrong someday.

Currently it appears to be the very worst decision I ever made. From landed gentry to broke and quite humbled.
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pushycat Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:57 AM
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7. A principled man is a man of value. Stay safe and good luck.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:50 PM
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10. you still get to look at your face in the morning
so the money may be elsewhere for now, remember the law of averages says you must have a monetary change. Good luck and I'm glad to know that you are in the world.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 11:58 AM
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8. such a shame. Lockheed had ethics problems years ago and..

instituted a very strong internal ethic program. But the power of money... they look to to be slipping back to the dark side.

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:43 PM
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9. THE MILITARY/INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX - In conflict for power
THE MILITARY/INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
IN THE CONFLICT FOR POWER
BY JERRY HARRIS

“Power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
-- Mao Tse-tung

After W.W. II the U.S. had unquestioned hegemony throughout the
capitalist world. But in the early 1970s U.S. power began a long decline,
particularly as the economies in Europe and Japan recovered. Still, the
U.S. maintained leadership by providing military security for the West.
But with the collapse of the Soviet Union there was a basic shift in this
arrangement. The U.S. security umbrella was no longer needed and
previous American economic hegemony had long passed its peak.
Alongside this strategic change was the emerging revolution in
information technology. As information capitalism became firmly rooted
in all the advanced countries a system of economic and political
globalization rapidly developed. These changing world conditions
presented two choices to the U.S. ruling class; either fully integrate into a
globalized system of world capitalism or reassert hegemony through
military power. Globalization became the choice of consensus, backed by
rapidly growing transnational corporations, the immense power of
speculative finance, a surge in cross cultural exchanges and a
technological boom that pointed to a new economy. For most leaders in
the U.S. and West the Soviet collapse had created the conditions to build
a new integrated multilateral system.
2
But beneath the new global system remained a powerful nationalist
wing within the U.S. capitalist class. These elements retained a solid base
of support in the military/industrial complex (MIC), the structural heart of
U.S. superpower status. The hegemonists bloc consist of geopolitical
realists and neoconservatives and both believe the defeat of the USSR
provided the opportunity for a unilateral U.S. empire. This strategy was
laid-out in a pivotal policy paper published in 1997 by the neoconservative
think tank Project for the New American Century, and signed
onto by Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney and other top
White House officials.
As the paper reads, “Having led the West to victory America faces
an opportunity and a challenge…Does the United States have the resolve
to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests?
What is required is a military that is strong…a foreign policy that boldly
and purposefully promotes American principles abroad; and national
leadership that accepts the United State’s global responsibilities…At
present the United States faces no global rival. America’s grand strategy
should aim to preserve and extend this advantageous position as far into
the future as possible (and maintain) unquestioned U.S. military
preeminence (to prevent) others an opportunity to shape the world in
ways antithetical to American interests.” (Donnelly, 1997, i)
This vision drives the Bush administration and is a sharp challenge
to the globalist strategy followed throughout the 1990s. This conflict for
power between the globalist and hegemonist wings of the U.S. capitalism
is key to understanding the current world and stems from the undermining
of the old nation/state by globalization. A world economy based on global
assembly lines and run by transnational capitalists has outgrown the use of
nationalist armies protecting and extending national markets. Security was
redefined as global stability to facilitate cross border investments. As
pointed out by the Institute for National Strategic Studies, “Almost
everywhere, countries face the task of harmonizing their foreign economic
policies with their national security strategies. China and Russia both face
this challenge, as do the Europeans and the Japanese. So does the United
States.” (Kugler, 2000a, 8)
To understand the nature of this conflict let me begin by suggesting the
capitalist class consist of different networks of power and interests. These
3
would include economic networks of productive and finance capital; political
networks that dominate the state apparatus, intellectual circles and the leading
political parties; cultural networks that include media, academic and religious
forces; and the military/industrial complex (MIC). These networks are
interconnected and overlap but are also internally divided into various
fractions, the most important consisting of globalist and nationalist interests.
...cont'd

http://www.net4dem.org/mayglobal/Papers/JerryHarris_MilitaryIndustrialComplex.pdf


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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:58 PM
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11. We need congress back in 06'!
Investigations Galore!
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:02 PM
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12. This is beyond creepy.
One thing about them that creeps me out is their "We never forget who we're working for" commercials. I'll bet they never forget exactly who their working for.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 10:11 PM
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13. Privatized torture
"Known in the intelligence community as "97 Echoes" (97E is the official classification number for the interrogator course taught at military colleges), these civilian contractors work side-by-side with military interrogators using 17 officially sanctioned techniques, ranging from "love of comrades" to "fear up harsh" - violently throwing detainees to the ground. Their subjects will be the tens of thousands of men and women put into United States-run military jails on suspicion of links to terrorism."
...
"Ads on several websites frequented by current and former military personnel offered an annual salary of $70,000-$90,000, a $2,000 sign-up bonus, $1,000 for a mid-tour break and a $2,000-dollar bonus for completing the normal six-month deployment."
...
"Based on the Pentagon's own investigations and other reports that are already public, it seems clear that contractors are less well-trained, less well-controlled and harder to hold accountable for things that go wrong than are regular troops."


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