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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:44 PM
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Among Insurgents in Iraq, Few Foreigners Are Found
Before 8,500 U.S. and Iraqi soldiers methodically swept through Tall Afar two months ago in the year's largest counterinsurgency offensive, commanders described the northern city as a logistics hub for fighters, including foreigners entering the country from Syria, 65 miles to the west. "They come across the border and use Tall Afar as a base to launch attacks across northern Iraq," Col. H.R. McMaster, commander of the Army's 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, which led the assault, said in a briefing the day before it began.

When the air and ground operation wound down in mid-September, nearly 200 insurgents had been killed and close to 1,000 detained, the military said at the time. But interrogations and other analyses carried out in recent weeks showed that none of those captured was from outside Iraq. According to McMaster's staff, the 3rd Armored Cavalry last detained a foreign fighter in June.

In a recent interview, McMaster maintained that foreigners were at least partly responsible for the "climate of fear" that pervaded Tall Afar before insurgents were driven out in September, citing beheadings, suicide attacks and the abduction of young men to conscript them as fighters. "They trained indigenous terror cells and moved on somewhere else," he said.

The relative importance of the foreign component of Iraq's two-year-old insurgency, estimated at between 4 and 10 percent of all guerrillas, has been a matter of growing debate in military and intelligence circles, U.S. and Iraqi officials and American commanders said. Top U.S. military officials here have long emphasized the influence of groups such as al Qaeda in Iraq, an insurgent network led by a Jordanian, Abu Musab Zarqawi. But analysts say the focus on foreign elements is also an attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the insurgency in the eyes of Iraqis, by portraying it as terrorism foisted on the country by outsiders. "Both Iraqis and coalition people often exaggerate the role of foreign infiltrators and downplay the role of Iraqi resentment in the insurgency," said Anthony H. Cordesman, a former Pentagon official now at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, who is writing a book about the Iraqi insurgency.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/16/AR2005111602519.html
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:46 PM
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1. "Insurgents" = "Citizens"--whose motto is...
..."Don't tread on me."

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:47 PM
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2. another lie unraveling....
:puke:
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:47 PM
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3. What was the likelyhood that these Iraqi's would come to
America and attack us? "We fight them there so that we don't have to fight them here"? Pure bushit.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:52 PM
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4. We'll need a different lie to attack Syria and Iran.
At least the Post is publishing this info. The rest of the MSM is AWOL
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:04 AM
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6. Kick
Foreign insurgents? More exaggerations? More lies?
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:10 AM
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9. So why are we marching around the Syrian border...
...when whole Baghdad neighborhoods are controlled by the insurgency?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:00 AM
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5. We've taken sides in a civil war. Worst mistake you can ever make.
This is the worst of all possible scenarios - the one the experts warned us about over and over and over and over...

Sucks having a fake pResident who's as stubborn as a mule.

Stay in Asia, would you * ?
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:16 AM
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7. No kidding
I've been saying for two years that the enemy in Iraq is the Iraqi people, not foreigners. "Zarqawi" is a myth and only 1% of the fighters in Iraq are "foreign." Withdraw the troops NOW and stop denying reality. I also think "al-Qaeda in Iraq" doesn't exist. It's a U.S. military creation to link our Iraq blunder to 9/11 in order to make American sheep think we're fighting the "enemy" in Iraq.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:13 AM
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10. Yeah. No shit.
But admitting we are fighting the Iraqi people is not politically acceptable, so it will not be admitted while the war continues.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:35 AM
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8. Kick.
:kick:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:29 AM
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11. We're the Redcoats
:-(
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:43 AM
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12. CorporateUSA tried to claim Iraq as a colony for OIL-too bad it won't work
they'll never see one dollar of profit from that sweet crude they so desperately craved-

-blood money that they will never bank.--

Q:How many have died for this get rich quick scheme???
A:hundreds of thousands

Question is now:
how many more will die?
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