Forrester says Bush's troubles tilted the vote (NJ Gov. Race)

[ok_cpu]

It's all George W. Bush's fault.

Doug Forrester, in his first postelection interview, laid the blame for his loss in the governor's race last week directly at the feet of President Bush. He said the public's growing disaffection with Bush, especially after Hurricane Katrina, made it impossible for his campaign to overcome the built-in advantage Democrats have in a blue state like New Jersey.

"If Bush's numbers were where they were a year ago, or even six months ago, I think we would have won on Tuesday," Forrester said. "Katrina was the tipping point."

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-0/113186125598600.xml&coll=1&thispage=1

[petepillow]

never mind the fact that forrester is an asshole. see any NJ debates?

[ShrewdLiberal]

11. No, but I'll take your word for it. All Republicans are assholes.

[MissMarple]

12. That's not entirely accurate.

Many Republicans donated to and supported Kerry in '04. I usually refer to them as "old style" or "real" Republicans. They are still around and even more dismayed by George, the neocons, the corporatists, and the religious wingnuts, and at what has happened to their party. And others of them are just beginning to realize that their party has been highjacked by the bad people.

John Eisenhower actually resigned from the party and registered as Independent after the 2000 election.

These people are our allies.

[ast_liberal2008]

20. a more accurate statement would be:

I think a more accurate statement would be: all Republicans that run for office are assholes. That's not completely accurate either though.

[sandrakae]

23. How about, all Republicans that voted for George Bush are Assholes.

[MissMarple]

33. All Republicans who voted for George and don't now deeply regret it...

are STUPID! I don't use that other word. ;)

[tk2kewl]

1. Titled? You got your ass handed to you Dougie!

[Cha]

2. bush blames everyone else

and forrester blames bush..I like it.

As long as they're LOSIN'!

[graywarrior]

3. They continue to deny that they just plain SUCK

[Cha]

4. Shit happens, doug.

When you have a white house built on pick-up sticks..you just got hope nothing serious happens.

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. Another Repug shifting the blame. So typical of the right wing.

[KarenS]

6. Whether it is true or not,,,, I'm really happy to see that he's

talking this way!!!

[annabanana]

7. hahahahahahaha!

"Bush Did It"!!

lordy lordy

[GrpCaptMandrake]

8. Let's hear it for

the Repiglican circle-jerk firing squad!

:headbang:

[Lexingtonian]

9. more Republican rugged individualism....

We'd all win if we had someone to pull us up above the competition, Doug.

[ProSense]

10. Bush and the fact that you'd have been a disaster as a governor. n/t

[MrBenchley]

13. It's "the party of personal responsibility!"

As in "personally, I think somebody else is repsonsible...."

[DemoTex]

14. Kris has a song for Doug Forrester: "Blame it on the Stones"

Mister Marvin Middle Class is really in a stew
Wond'rin' what the younger generation's coming to
And the taste of his martini doesn't please his bitter tongue
Blame it on the Rolling Stones.
Blame it on the Stones; blame it on the Stones
You'll feel so much better, knowing you don't stand alone
Join the accusation; save the bleeding nation
Get it off your shoulders; blame it on the Stones

Mother tells the ladies at the bridge club every day
Of the rising price of tranquilizers she must pay
And she wonders why the children never seem to stay at home
Blame it on the Rolling Stones.

Blame it on the Stones; Blame it on the Stones
You'll feel so much better, knowing you don't stand alone
Join the accusation; save the bleeding nation
Get it off your shoulders; blame it on the Stones

Father's at the office, nightly working all the time
Trying to make the secretary change her little mind
And it bothers him to read about so many broken homes
Blame it on those Rolling Stones.

Blame it on the Stones; Blame it on the Stones
You'll feel so much better knowing you don't stand alone
Join the accusation; save the bleeding nation
Get it off your shoulders; blame it on the Stones

Blame it on the stones, blame it on the stones.

Kris Kristofferson, Bucky Wilkin

[fearnobush]

15. "Katrina was the tipping point." And thats what 's really driving *'s

poll numbers down. The Katrina post Bush disaster showed how incompetent this fu*k of a leader really is. One quote shuts down the Freepers at work, "Brownie, your doing a heck of a job." and the Brownie emails only reinforce his and this tyrant's incompetence.

I wish Corzine used that quote in a TV ad saying something like - Doe's NJ really want a Governer that supports a leader like this?

He would have won by 20pts.

[Wilms]

16. Bull! It was Clinton's fault. n/t

[mcscajun]

17. Bull! He'd have lost anyway.

Certainly Bush's numbers didn't help him any, but it's the mess Bush has created that impacted NJ and influenced the vote, not any poll numbers.

What an ultra-maroon.

[AX10]

27. Bush's mess gave the Democrats an even larger margin of victory.

[fearnobush]

18. Had to post this: Will Forrester's attack hurt his own Business.

Forrester said...
He'll return to his business, BeneCard Services Inc., a prescription drug manager for health care providers, and try to figure out if the negative campaign attacks on his business will affect the bottom line.

He said, "I'm just trusting that people will recognize that that was just politics playing itself out in New Jersey."

[jazzjunkysue]

25. Or, maybe it's that nasty ad about Corzine's ex you ran.....

Karma's a bitch, Doug.

[norml]

19. Bush's Fault

LOL!

[daleo]

21. "I Blame Bush"

That would make a nice campaign button.

[onehandle]

22. Wahhhh! Our party leader is a loser! Wahhhh! nt.

[Jersey Ginny]

24. There is some truth to this. Dems were MOTIVATED

and showed up at the polls. The grassroots dems really worked hard at getting the Dem vote out. It was impressive and there is no doubt in my mind, as it did also apply to me and my grassroots pals, that our motivation was helped by that criminal regime in the whitehouse.

[AX10]

26. It did play a role in giving Corzine his 11 point victory.

Democrats were motivated and a massive grassroots campaign was afoot to get Dems out to vote. Corzine's 54/43 win without this motivation would have been a single digit win (52/45).

Bush's unpopularity has allowed the Demorats to become much more motivated. November 8th, 2004, the Dems were in disbelief over Bush's "win" (if that's what you call it). One year later, November 8th, 2005 was a great day for the Democrats.

[karynnj]

29. As a New Jerseyean, I agree with everything you say here

I live in a very Republican county and the Democrats were more active than I have ever seen them. There were more also more volonteers - In September, I received emails with links for volunteering from both Kerry's list and (I think the DNC). Corzine had an automated system that called people - asking if they could volunteer, donate, or if you were voting for him.

The national party did a great job supporting Corzine - starting with Kerry going to 5 rallies in September, B.Clinton coming at least 3 times, and in the last weekend, Obama was in 4 places and Dean in (I think) 6 places. I have never had so many opputunities to see big name Democrats.

Forrester also shouldn't discount the possibility that NJ just doesn't like him.

[JI7]

28. so what was his excuse for losing last time ?

while Bush certain did not help. the fact is NJ is a democratic state and people like Forrestor have no chance. the only time he had a chance was when he was up against the Torch and even in that case people were voting against the Torch based on his corrupt dealings rather than any issues. as soon as we replaced him with Lautenberg it was an easy Dem win.

[yellowcanine]

30. He lost by 10 points and he is blaming Bush? How about his sleazy

"Let's use the ex-wife" ads?

[rocktivity]

31. If you believed Bush was your problem, Dougie

all you had to do was repudiate him!

:evilgrin:
rocknation

[boredofeducation]

32. McGreevy won by at least 15 points in 2001

Let's not forget about Jim McGreevy winning by 15 points (I think it was 20) in 2001 when Bush had an 85% approval rating! How does Dougie explain that one? Doug lost his second state wide election, if he runs for senate again, it would be his third. I don't think he could win as Dog Catcher in West Windsor!

[missingthebigdog]

34. Candidate Says Bush Troubles Became His (NJ Governor race)

NEWARK, N.J. - The Republican who lost New Jersey's bitter gubernatorial race said he would have won had President Bush's popularity not been sagging.



Doug Forrester, who lost to Democrat Jon Corzine by about 9 percentage points last week, told The Sunday Star-Ledger of Newark that dissatisfaction with Bush made it impossible for him to overcome the Democrats' advantages.

"If Bush's numbers were where they were a year ago, or even six months ago, I think we would have won on Tuesday," Forrester said.

WooHoo!!


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051114/ap_on_re_us/governor_s_race_forrester

[rodeodance]

35. a little violin is playing its saddest song for you.

[flamingyouth]

44. And that violin is out of tune

:nopity:

[ramapodem]

36. Excuses

"If Bush's numbers were where they were a year ago, or even six months ago, I think we would have won on Tuesday," Forrester said.

and pigs fly :rofl:

The voters of NJ aren't idiots

~a proud jerseyite

[Lost-in-FL]

37. HAhaHAHhaHA...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :spray: :spray: :spray:

I wonder what the WH has to say about that. I bet they will say he lost for being homosexual or else.

[TrueMajority.org]

38. Coattails or Potholes?

Hopefully this is just the beginnning, and that the tide is
changing for 2006 and 2008!

[Lost-in-FL]

39. Welcome True!!

:hi:

[readmylips]

40. Potholes...I love the term..

Pothole bush.

[WI_DEM]

41. A year ago Bush lost NJ

so, while Bush was a drag on the ticket, it's doubtful that Forrrester would have won anyhow.

[WildClarySage]

42. Well Pal, the saying goes, ya lie with dogs, ya wake with fleas.

Guess you shoulda thought of that before. Just can't seem to find any sympathy for ya. Nope, none over here, either. Maybe under this desk? No, guess not.

[warrens]

43. Read it and weep, all GOP congressthugs who face reelection

Oh, wait, that's ALL of you. Every one of you. Why, each and every!