Calif. GOP Seeks Religious Push (churches campaigning for Arnold)

[Democat]

Republicans promoting Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's four ballot initiatives on Tuesday's special election are hoping a push by religious conservatives to promote the abortion measure could translate into support for the governor's "year of reform" agenda.

"We've had tremendous encouragement in recent weeks. Thirty churches a day are signing up to have bulletin inserts to get out the vote and remind their congregations to vote," said Gary Marx, a consultant hired by the California Republican Party to help pass Proposition 73.

"We're focusing our efforts on churches that can have the most impact, a lot of the megachurches," he said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/05/politics/main1015813.shtml

Arnold continues to move to the right and the GOP continues to use churches to divide Americans.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. Highly ironic.

Churches pushing a parental notification proposition for a pro-choice Republican.

[Kolesar]

5. There is nothing "genuine" about Arnold Schwarzeneggar

I remember when a struggling Howard Dean cited "Job___" as his favorite biblical passage. I felt pretty sad for the candidate, because biblical recitations certainly were not his passion; he just felt forced to "act" religious.

Well now, pathetic republicans are using their church network to push Arnold. Arnold has nothing to offer the pius, and they know it. The gops are just pulling a desparation move.

There is nothing "genuine" about the California republicans.

[EFerrari]

11. They are trying to flip CA. I don't think they care much about

the Grope. And, now they can say again "it was the values vote" when our new Rethug secretary of state pushes the machines on us and somehow Replicants start winning elections.

CA will be the new Ohio.

[leesa]

16. Many counties already have the machines...how do you think we got Arnie?

[loudsue]

31. Up-thread, they're trying to take away Tax Exempt status of a church

for preaching an anti-war sermon. And yet, HERE, they're pushing churches to spread political literature for pro-republican candidates!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1906247

Their hypocrisy knows no bounds!!!


:kick::kick::kick:

[funflower]

2. Did Ahnold find Jesus now? That's a new one.

[awoke_in_2003]

6. I found Him...

but I had to sign a non-disclosure agreement, and can't say where he is :)

[funflower]

26. ROFLOL!

:spray:

[UpInArms]

3. when do these churches lose their tax exempt status?

The neocons know that the separation between church and state is real and they have been doing the level best to blur that fact now for 30 years.

[Democat]

4. When do elected Democrats start fighting?

Until then, the right wing will do whatever they want and get away with it.

[saigon68]

10. Limp Losermann (d) Conn.

Is presently snoozing the nite away in his "Heated Waterbed".

[Cha]

18. Warren Beatty has

been following swartzenidiot around on the stump telling people the truth.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5277250

[ixion]

9. yep, that was my thought as well...

it's a blatant violation, IMO.

[anitar1]

23. Everyone of them should pay taxes IMHO. n/t

[rodeodance]

7. drats--Arnie was falling behind on most of the inititives till this happen

ed. !!!!!!

[ixion]

8. 'religious conservatives'... and 'megachruches'

The phrase 'religious conservative' is a violation of chruch and state.

And megachruches... seems to be a nothing more than a repug hive. Can't people bring lawsuits against these places when they get political to have there tax exempt status revoked? It seems like a civil suite would be possible.

[msongs]

21. megachurches = making their founders wealthy. follow the $$ nt

[Pharlo]

12. Whoever his opponent is

needs to PLASTER California with the "Wacko" e-mail.

Hell, let the CA democratic party and the nurses and teachers union start it now.

Make moving politics into church an anethema well before the 2006 elections.

In fact, nationally, we need to start now....

[kevinbgoode]

13. This is how they take over. . .

they look for lower turnout, capitalize on mass politics within the cults, and then start to impose their Taliban authority. If Americans continue to be complacent about this, we'll have no one to blame for the wingnuts imposing religious "law" but ourselves.

[flyarm]

14. well damnit..people call the dem offices ..offer your time now today!!

sign up to be a driver...old people call the dnc and ask for a ride..be adriver for gods sake...

my husband did it in the general in fla( i was poll watcher) ..and i can not vote in nj my half the year home but i have signed up to be a driver...old people vote..they call the dnc offices and ask for a ride...call and offer your time..

i can tell you as a poll watcher i saw the right churches do it..they bring busses with old , retarded, and infirmed to vote...

do not bitch unless you donate your time and efforts!!

don't have all day..sign up to do it when you get off work... remember polls are usually open till 7-8 pm...there are no excuses...

its about time the dems put their time where their mouths are...

come on calif ..there are many seniors who can not drive...put your time in out there in calif...do it today ..call and offer your time...

there are also ways to help with absentee ballots..either picking them up from seniors..or delivering them to be signed and returning to the supervisors offices..

don't say you did all you could..if you didnt do all you could!!

you have no right to bitch if you did not contribute, if you are able bodied..

and if not able bodied but you can use the phone the dems have lists of people to call to remind them to go vote...

fly

[tanyev]

15. Do the churches know the GOP really thinks they are wackos?

"The wackos get their information through the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet and telephone trees," Scanlon wrote in the memo, which was read into the public record at a hearing of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee. "Simply put, we want to bring out the wackos to vote against something and make sure the rest of the public lets the whole thing slip past them."

[brentspeak]

33. Where are you getting that quote from?

I'm interested in reading more.

[tanyev]

35. Grrr. Advanced search not working right now.

There were several threads on this, but I know for sure one is titled, "Michael Scanlon secretly refers to 'christian' Right as "Wackos" because I printed it out for future reference. Here is a thread which has more information.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5277558

[Cha]

17. I thought arnie had

pushed his pro choice stance to moderates in Calif for his initial "win"?

Is this an excuse they will use? That they got out the religiously insane for the ballot victories?

[LibDemAlways]

19. Arnold has not publically associated

himself with Prop. 73. I know the religious right is pushing it, but Arnold, personally, is not. Doesn't excuse all of his other POS propositions in this useless, waste of tax dollars, "special" election, though.

[mod mom]

20. Pimps in the Pulpit after faith based initiative $. nt

[shanti]

22. separation of church and state, der gropenator?

ever heard of it, asshole????? :mad: grr:

[donco6]

24. Won't work this time.

The churches don't like Ahnuld. A. He is not American born (big strike against him in the religious fundie circles), B. He has an accent (see point A.), C. He's not used the typical fundie catch phrases, attended the prayer breakfasts, promoted the fundie agenda enough for them to trust him.

IMO, this is a waste of time.

[hyphenate]

25. This needs to be investigated

by the ACLU. Perhaps someone can do so?

[sakabatou]

27. There goes their tax exemption status.

[jazzjunkysue]

28. So, the christian impersonators want to be lead by a weight lifter?

He's not an actor, people. This is not like Ronald Raygun. He's a friggin' weighlifter, OK? A no-neck sitting-on-his-brain imported musclehead, who belives, as I think much of this country does, that he's a military special agent.

He's
a
friggin'
body
builder.

Get it???????
:argh:

[daleo]

29. And a woman groper

You might think right wing Christians would find his behavior inappropriate for them to support.

[jazzjunkysue]

32. I'm sure he was celibate until he was married, and so is a good role

model for young christians.

These people are beyond f*&%$ing nuts.

[DeepModem Mom]

30. Is any organization in Cali monitoring this church electioneering...

in order to make, and prove, a case that they should lose their tax exemption?

[WhiteTara]

34. Hey, in another link, a church is being investigated

for its anti war message! Sounds like KKKarl still has time to f*ck with us. Hurry up Fitz!

[CBHagman]

36. Say what?

Some church in California is being threatened with loss of its tax-exempt status because the pastor criticized the administration, and yet it's okay to campaign for that rutting beast? Has the country gone mad, or is hypocrisy just coming out of the closet?

By the way, a church I visited in Pennsylvania more or less endorsed Bush in its bulletin last fall (my regular church adheres to the stance that it does not advocate for or against any single candidate). Do I rat on St. Peter's in Scranton?

[Roland99]

37. Praise Jesus and Pass the Ammo! Is the IRS going after these freaks, too?

[mandomom]

38. Even more ironic is the anti-war church at risk of losing

its tax exempt status for playing "politics". Obviously if you're playing on Bush's team, the politics game is okay. And the uptight religious right sees nothing wrong with this transparent dishonesty?