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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:26 PM Original message |
Is Sony Trying to Kill the CD Format for Music? |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. What do these rootkits do? |
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Mithras61 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. A little background on root kits... |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Thanks for the linkage! n/t |
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Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. I've said it before- |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Bad music high prices.. |
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Jamison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. I agree |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 08:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. You say that like it's a bad thing. |
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Jamison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 09:52 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Actually what I meant was... |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes another reason to prefer Macs. |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. or linux (i think...i'd have to find out more to be sure) |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Yes, Linux SHOULD be immune from this, too. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Don't depend on it |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Not true. |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. That's not my point, though |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. And I do scan regularly... |
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evermind (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Since Linux doesn't run anything on a CD without being asked to |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 05:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. True, I don't know how difficult it is for a standard Linux setup... |
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evermind (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Oh, never mind - reading the original article at |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
71. drive by installs do not require auto-play |
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Born Free (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 05:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
57. I have been hearing that for almost 10 years now.. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 12:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
49. nonsense. |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 05:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. OK, try to write a Mac virus. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 07:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. A simple google search |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 09:29 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. No, I said *you* write one... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-05 10:53 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Ok fine. |
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Cult (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 05:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
58. Woo Woo! |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. Is this also true of Sony blank media products as well? |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. No... |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Blank media MUST be safe. |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 04:26 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. "blank" media does have some data on it. |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. Right. Like no ones computer ever got mal-ware, spy-ware, a |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Mine never has |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Thats great for you but the average consumer does not have the |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Yeah, I know, that's the fucked up thing about it |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. Almost ... Sony is trying to commit suicide |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. The Average Consumer Will Never Know |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. They already know when they find out they can't take the music... |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 05:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. I am seeing more music discs in record storesw/copy protection these days |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. Why would Sony be doing this? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 01:06 AM Response to Reply #16 |
52. rootkits |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 10:08 AM Response to Reply #52 |
66. Pardon my ignorance |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-04-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Lots of confusiuon: you are not alone. |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. yup |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
18. I don't like ITunes very much. |
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B3Nut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. DRM can be encoded into a full-resolution PCM audio file. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 09:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Exactly. |
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zara (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
21. Sony's action could violate its privacy policy, among other things, |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
23. SImple Solution.... |
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electropop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 05:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Boycott Sony. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. The real solution, which I tested on the recent My Morning Jacket album... |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 09:39 AM Response to Reply #23 |
64. Got 12 hits yesterday....lol |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
30. Don't buy sony cd's. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
35. One more reason to buy a Mac! |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
36. Sony have been robbing music fans since the dawn of time. |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
37. Buy a Mac.. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
38. That's probably why those CD-ROMs screw up Macs |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
40. all windows users: DISABLE AUTOPLAY |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 09:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Or hold down shift when inserting disc, which disables autoplay also. n/t |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 01:00 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. that helps |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 01:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. they have no business calling these things CDs |
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evermind (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
41. Sony have now released an uninstaller for the rootkit |
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twaddler01 (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 08:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. hehe |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 02:55 AM Response to Reply #41 |
53. That's a misrepresentation... |
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twaddler01 (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
43. do you think they will hurt by this? |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-02-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Absolutely!! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
50. DRM crapware and rootkit detection. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 02:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Even more ridiculous... |
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B3Nut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 09:01 AM Response to Reply #50 |
62. The problem with invoking DMCA |
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KDLarsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
55. Didn't Philips say that CD's with this PoS on it, can't be called CD's? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 10:15 AM Response to Reply #55 |
67. Yes, they did. It violates the standards for music CD's |
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FourStarDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-03-05 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
59. That's why I do things the old-fashioned way |
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