Wapner ads give Arnie a whupping

[brooklynite]

Retired Judge Joseph Wapner is kicking Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's butt in the "People's Court" of public opinion. The celebrity jurist's hard-hitting TV ads are helping sink Proposition 77, one of the governator's pet ballot measures, which would strip state legislators of the power to draw voting district boundaries.

Since Wapner's 30-second anti-Proposition 77 spots debuted Oct. 24, the percentage of likely voters who say they'll vote "No" has risen from 41% to 51%, according to the Field Research Corporation poll released yesterday.

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The Schwarzenegger-backed ballot initiative calls for a panel of three retired judges, chosen by lawmakers, to draw district lines, with their plan subject to voter approval. So the thumbs-down from Wapner, a retired presiding justice of the L.A. Superior Court, is potent.

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Three other Schwarzenegger-backed initiatives, including one making it tougher for teachers to get tenure, are headed for defeat also, the poll shows.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/story/361576p-308038c.html

[still_one]

1. it won't matter if there isn't a turnout

and frankly after the dismal turnouts in 2000 and 2004 I don't have much confidence

[rpannier]

3. The difference is

this time he's gone after one of the biggest unions in the state...The teachers union. And he's pissed off nurses. Those two groups will vote enmasse. I'll give him credit for taking the political risks by doing what he's done -- but he's gonna get his ass kicked and probably end any chance he has of being re-elected.

[still_one]

18. that is what I am hoping for

the idiot starts insulting people he needs to work with practically the momement he took office, just like his mentor bush

people have to stop electing IDIOTS!!!

[Tempest]

24. The police and fireman's unions are also fired up

The turnout won't be huge, but it will be filled with anti-Arnie voters.

I'm in conservative Bakersfield, and there was little enthusiasm here for Arnie's attempt to energize the faithful.

Not many of the Repugs I know care one way or the other, and some won't be going to the polls.

[joefree1]

7. Good news! 47% very interested, 47% somewhat interested

A poll on LA Times. And all of Aunald's measures in big trouble. You don't give us California Democrats enough credit. We're going to stomp the Gropenator on Tuesday.

See the LA poll here.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-poll2nov02,0,2886994.story?coll=la-home-headlines

[Cha]

10. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!

arnie needs to get the hell outta politics and back to making bad movies.

[joefree1]

16. Oh, and that LA Times poll is the most conservative one I've seen

The other polls show Aunald's measures really tanking.

... and you'll get your wish. Aunald has already announced he's making more movies. Poor chump doesn't realize how bad his PR is. Too much steroid use?

[still_one]

19. don't trust the polls

turnout is critical, and you can bet that big money is going to come in this weekend to reverse that

[joefree1]

20. Let's see if California Democrats are stronger then you think

Sorry you feel that it such a lost cause. :tinfoilhat:

[still_one]

27. I did NOT say it was a lost cause

turnout is everything, and that will tell everything

by the way I hope they are stronger than I think

[calimary]

21. I, for one, CANNOT WAIT to stomp Der Gropenator on Tuesday!

And barring his conversion to the Democratic Party, I doubt much of anything will be able to pull his ass out of a sling when he tries to get reelected. If he fails next Tuesday, the failure will become stuck to him like a lethal combination of dog poo, beach tar, AND five or six packs of ready-chewed chewing gum on his shoes. He'll be laminated to this for the rest of his term in Sacramento because it will always be mentioned in any press coverage of him trying to play-act like a governor. Just as the epithet "popular wartime president" stuck to bush like glue in virtually every frickin' newspaper story and on-air commentary until just recently when NOBODY could ignore his shittier-and-shittier poll numbers anymore. Once you start having to carry those reminders around with you, as a public figure, you're sunk. If he doesn't prevail on SOMETHING on Tuesday, he's pretty much done for.

And I, as a proud California DEMOCRAT and a vigilant VOTER, am delighted to step up and do my part to help make that happen.

So THERE, Arnie-baby. Hasta la vista, yourself. This one's for all the women you groped and intimidated in Hollywood, as well as all the California voters on whom you've been pulling that shit ever since. You WON'T BE BACK.

[katty]

26. Yes, we are! terminate the terminator...his star is falling

[AlCzervik]

2. Wow, they're actually working!! I couldn't beleive when i saw it for the

1st time a few weeks ago, i thought Wapner had died.

[nickgutierrez]

4. "That can't possibly be the headline... oh jeez, it is the headline."

The New York Post: where professionalism is just a rumor.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. That's the Daily News

Which is a completely different creature than the NY Post.

[calimary]

22. "The New York Post: where professionalism is just a rumor" - !!!!

Aw, MAN! That's GREAT!!! Had me spitting my tea all over my keyboard here...

KUDOS! That one goes into my great quotes file.

[berni_mccoy]

5. Thos Damned Activist Judges!

Bwahahahahah!

[zbdent]

8. Reminds me of Ed Schultz talking about Roberts' comment about

how nobody watches baseball for the umpires . . .

Except for the fact of the popularity of:

"Judge Judy"
"The People's Court" - Wapner
and didn't Mills Lane have a TV show, too?

Plus a couple of other "judges" who have afternoon shows . . .

[Cha]

9. I hope with Reiner and these

Judge Wapner ads And all the Democrats in California who can't stand the shovelnator and his bullshit get out and Vote!

Wonder what Ophra and Jamie Lee Curtis think about him now?

[seriousstan]

11. It's a good having state legislators draw voting district boundaries?

What am I missing here?

[joefree1]

23. Aliotta, Scalia, Thomas, Rehnquist?

Judges can't be partisan pawns? Thank you very much, but we'll keep our Democratic majority in California.

[Sandpiper]

29. 3 words for those who believe judges are politically impartial

Bush v. Gore

[Sandpiper]

28. You're right, far better to leave it to 3 unelected judges

The majority of whom are old white men, to decide the voting districts of a diverse State of 33.8 million people.

[henslee]

12. You can see add on this link.. just scroll down....and click.

actually, they want you to reg so do this...

go to this google page (i googled wapner and arnold)
http://www.google.com/search?q=wapner+ad+arnold&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

and click on first choice... the adwatch sacbee link.

[Toots]

13. So it sounds like we are happy at the way Legislators have drawn districts

I am of the opinion something needs to be done. I do not live in California so do not know what Prop 77 says or the implications of it but I do know that I am not thrilled with the way things are currently being done. Look at Texas for the latest example. Retired Judges seem about the fairest way to do things as long as they were elected and not appointed. Judges very rarely (almost never) run on a Partisan ticket. IOW they do not run as Democrats or Republicans but just as a Judge. While it could be they are viewed as Partisan I do not believe the majority are. While I have little to say about Schwarzenegger, I do find this particular idea intriguing

[IA_Seth]

15. Yeah, I agree..

I must not know the whole story here, because it doesn't sound like a bad idea in and of itself.

The opposition here isn't JUST because it was proposed by Arnold is it? I think that would be silly.

[joefree1]

17. Bush's choice for Supreme court and the Tom Delay trial

... show that Judges can be partisan pawns in a political power play. That's all that Prop 77 is, a power play by Aunald and his corporate cronies to cripple the Democratic majority in California. That's the only reason that Aunald is having this $50 million dollar special election.

Fortunately we Californians won't put up with it. No f**king way

[Sandpiper]

30. Bush v. Gore

Yessir. Judges are paragons of political impartiality.

[Mountainman]

14. Prop 73 the parental notification law is losing 41% to 49% also

The drug propositions are also losing. I heard this on KPFK this morning.

[Kolesar]

25. In Ohio, we are trying to take the power *out* of legislators hands

Or more correctly, from the Gov, Secy of State, Auditor and two representatives from the legislature. www.reformohionow.org